Quote Originally Posted by ?igma
I'm starting to get quite sad with Naruto.

Instead of the intellectual progress Naruto makes ( or should be making ), smarter in fights, clever tactics, understanding of the enemy, they made him some power animal that is there like some explosive Hulk.

However, what seperates the Hulk from Naruto, is that the Hulk at least, had one smart form. Naruto, is just dumb and when I say dumb, I mean retarded kind of dumb.
I guess one thing I want to hear from the manga readers is, is Naruto this dumb in the manga? To be fair, he grew up without parents and few friends, so he's bound to be dumb. But when a hero is that obnoxious, it's hard to root for him. Is this just a fault of the anime writers, or Kishimoto's characterization of Naruto?

Quote Originally Posted by JaySee
However, pointing out the anime/manga differences I think are important.
I don't agree at all. I'm here to discuss what happened in the anime episode I just watched, not the differences between the anime and the manga. If I wanted to know the differences, I'd go read the manga. I also could care less if something is in the anime that wasn't in the manga. After all, a 25 minute anime will contain material not included in the 3 issues of 18 page manga. If I cared that much about Kishimoto's "vision" of the Naruto world, I'd go read the manga.