the second coming of Zabuza == Zabuza clone
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Not necessarily, but seeing as how they called him the second coming of him, and is currently using his sword and is a master in the art of assassination, it does sound like he might turn out to be someone of Zabuza's mold.
the whitefang is the akatsuki leader? ya, thats sounds good and all but theres just one problem with that theory.....
the white fang killed himself after he was dishonourably discharged from the ranks of konoha ninja.
Except he also wants to use Kisame's sword.Originally Posted by animus
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
And the 4th got eaten by the death god he summoned. Yet people still try to make that connection...
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Well they make that connection because the kyubi wasn't eatent by the death god like it should have. thats my guess.
Like Orochimaru, we have seen that villains were not always evil-natured to begin with. it's been argued before Oro sought immortality to reunite with his parents. something innately good still remained in spite of his countless murders over the years.
also, the whole economic exploit thing. is that not the goal of every village in the Naruto world? each village's goal is to seek power so other weaker villages can "hire" them. both are trying to maintain (the pursuit of) their respective goals. villages are involved in wars which is not exactly good. it's all a power struggle through ie economic exploit.
how could he pursue his own goal without being considered a missing nin? he'd have to erase his existence from the Leaf. otherwise he'd be incessantly riddled with Leaf ninjas trying to kill/recover him for the rest of his life.
yep. for that and my (and any) theory to be true, there would have to be some twist or retelling of past events.
There's also the fact that the 4th Hokage doesn't have red hair, it's suppose to be yellow, unless he dyed it. I hope that we get to see some Akatsuki-Jinchuuriki fights.
And yet another thing that kinda makes it clear that the akatsuki leader isnt the fourth, is that he does infact have piercings on his nose, which the fourth didn't have in the manga.
I don't think that he consciously does that to avoid attacks. I am leaning towards his body being completely composed of water. That would help explain the constant drinking and the possible lack of physical strength.
My first impression while reading page 2 was, "Why is the 3rd hanging off Kisame's sword?".
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
Mine was "Why is bridge builder Tazuna hanging off Kisame's sword?"
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
hahahaha, god i love tobi he made this chapter with his few words
and Obito got crushed by the rocks... Yet people still believe Tobi is Obito.
I'm just comparing their personalities. Personalities are very clearly defined in Naruto, so any extremely obvious similarities are a topic of debate. If we are to learn anything from anime patterns, it's that dieing doesn't always stop a character from returning. It's the White Fang to Akatsuki leader comparison that has me most vexed. That just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
tobi is a charactor that really has me confused... i mean, akatsuki is composed of some rediculously inhuman charactors.. i just cant figure out tobi yet, and im wondering if we will even see him in action at all.
currently thinking about : will sasuke and naruto clash before either of them finds itachi... or are we going to see deidara and company fight w\ team naruto?
I predict gai will kill kisame first
@Kyle_A: sorry man. That isn't going to happen.
And to everyone who agrees with him. Not that I really know for sure, but I don't think anyone from Konoha has the ability to kill any Akatsuki member, alone. The only person who has the ability to do so is Kakashi(w/help) or blood born real sharingan user.No jounin from Konoha can kill him.
He has way to much chakra to be taken out by only one person. Even his clones at 30% have as much chakra as naruto in 3 tails form.
And I agree with bbaucom. Tobi is a confusing character.
my thoughts:I think sasuke will clash with Naruto before he is finds Itachi. It adds to the story and it would tie in the to whole Naruto and Sasuke thing. Plus it would give fire to Naruto's flame to want to save him more from Oro's grasp, or thinking he became evil after taking over Oro.
@docdan63 Kisame's clone had as much chakra as Naruto with 0 tails and residual Kyuubi chakra (The strongest Neji ever saw Naruto). Also as we've seen many times with Naruto though, having massive amounts of chakra doesn't mean you can't be beaten. It just means you can do more techniques without getting exausted which only helps if your fighting a long battle or you use huge techniques in radpid succession.
@docdan63 I believe Gai could take down Kisame with his Eight gates, even with Kisame using only 100% of his Chakra. Of course, it would only set up in a situation where Gai meets Kisame and immediately kills him with the Eighth Gate.
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