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    Can't wait for a tranlation, looks like some interesting akatasuki dialogue.

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    Man...I wish Kishimoto wasn't killing off his jinchurriki so easily. There could be so much potential with them.

    Also....it appears Deidara finally has his left arm back!
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    After reading the chapter translation I'm a bit disappointed. I guess mostly because neither the akatsuki is making an effort to retrieve the body of Hidan nor is the leaf village trying to get his head back so as to perform an interrogation.

    I'm curious to see if they'll be replaced. Although I must admit that the bit between Tobi and Diadara was priceless.

    Wish kishi would make an effort to at least show as a bit more akatsuki on jinjuuruki action. Seems like a huge missed opportunity, then again on the other hand I do like how he's stream lining the story at least in the sense of not adding anymore unnecessary characters.

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    Here is a Scanlation from bludshock (SS)

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    This was one of those chapters that didn't really show much withouth being able to read it. With the translation I liked it.
    If my numbers are right... they have 6 Bijuu right? Ichibi, Nibi, Sanbi, Yonbi and two unknown between Gobi, Rokubi, Nanabi and Hachibi.
    But what of that balance they mentioned then? Or haven't they extracted the 2 unknown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyougaZell
    This was one of those chapters that didn't really show much withouth being able to read it. With the translation I liked it.
    If my numbers are right... they have 6 Bijuu right? Ichibi, Nibi, Sanbi, Yonbi and two unknown between Gobi, Rokubi, Nanabi and Hachibi.
    But what of that balance they mentioned then? Or haven't they extracted the 2 unknown?
    Perhaps the Kyuubi is disproportionately powerful when compared to its brethren? Perhaps Kishi merely thumbs his nose at us and is doing a not-so-subtle retcon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
    Man...I wish Kishimoto wasn't killing off his jinchurriki so easily. There could be so much potential with them.
    Agreed, especially this last one. You'd think an old age jinchurriki would have maxed out the power of his bijuu more than any other jinchurriki; which would have made for one of the more interesting akatsuki/jinchurriki battles. The fact that Kisame took this veteran down on his own gives me the impression that he is a top tier akatsuki member.

    Quote Originally Posted by LobsterMagnet
    because neither the akatsuki is making an effort to retrieve the body of Hidan nor is the leaf village trying to get his head back...
    I always had the feeling that if you're an akatsuki that is defeated or dies, the leader thinks that member is too weak to remain in the group anyways. But the leader did say "Don't talk about your comrades like that" when Kisame seemingly took enjoyment in Hidan and Kakuzu's death. I want to say that's the main nindo of the Leaf but didnt the whole "You're lower than trash if you do not protect your comrades" thing start with the White Fang, passed down to Kakashi, passed down to Naruto? Yes this is my wild theory that the leader of the Akatsuki is the White Fang. Motive to start Akatsuki? Betrayal by village for upholding his most important principle.

    And about Hidan's head. I'm pretty sure Shikamaru burying the head where noone would find it (in the secret Nara forest) included the Leaf from knowing the head still exists. That's the full extent of Shikamaru's revenge.


    Quote Originally Posted by Souryusen
    Perhaps the Kyuubi is disproportionately powerful when compared to its brethren?
    Agreed. I think which also tells us Naruto has yet more powering up to do in this manga (and thus convincingly surpass Sasuke and everyone else).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souryusen
    Perhaps the Kyuubi is disproportionately powerful when compared to its brethren? Perhaps Kishi merely thumbs his nose at us and is doing a not-so-subtle retcon.
    This was quite an interesting chapter though even though it was just all talking. We learned quite a bit. Also, it turns out it was Zetsu who has spotted Sasuke and his companions. Itachi was speechless the whole time they talked about Oro's death and Sasuke... Seems like he is concerned.

    Well at least we learned why they waited so long to get Naruto again... because he has to be the last one they seal.

    Quote Originally Posted by chet_chetty
    Agreed, especially this last one. You'd think an old age jinchurriki would have maxed out the power of his bijuu more than any other jinchurriki; which would have made for one of the more interesting akatsuki/jinchurriki battles. The fact that Kisame took this veteran down on his own gives me the impression that he is a top tier akatsuki member.
    I think Kisame had help from Itachi. Kisame was talking saying "Perhaps you'll let me beat your target half to death next time too?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by chet_chetty

    I always had the feeling that if you're an akatsuki that is defeated or dies, the leader thinks that member is too weak to remain in the group anyways. But the leader did say "Don't talk about your comrades like that" when Kisame seemingly took enjoyment in Hidan and Kakuzu's death. I want to say that's the main nindo of the Leaf but didnt the whole "You're lower than trash if you do not protect your comrades" thing start with the White Fang, passed down to Kakashi, passed down to Naruto? Yes this is my wild theory that the leader of the Akatsuki is the White Fang. Motive to start Akatsuki? Betrayal by village for upholding his most important principle.
    There is only one problem: Akatsuki's goal. The whole taking over the world with economic exploit doesn't really fit the White Fang's character. Then again, we know relatively little about Kakashi's father.

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    Interesting Idea of the White Fang being the leader but I don't think that's going to be the case. It's about as likely as seeing the fourth turn out to be the leader. Biggest hole in that theory is that the white fang has white hair just like Kakashi while we've seen in a colored panel that the leaders hair is red.

    Poor Hidan, maybe his head will find a way to crawl out, but I guess shikimaru's revenge was completely brutal. Guess that was the reason he was so eager to get him off in the woods. Just so he could make sure that he would wipe out all traces of his existence forever. Guess the moral of the story is don't fuck with Shika, he'll pay you back times four.

    Loved Kisame's comment, calling them the zombie duo.

    Wonder if we'll see some new inductees into the akatsuki. Honestly I'd be hilarious if the way Itachi defeats Sasuke is by simply offering a position to the other members of team snake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyougaZell
    This was one of those chapters that didn't really show much withouth being able to read it. With the translation I liked it.
    If my numbers are right... they have 6 Bijuu right? Ichibi, Nibi, Sanbi, Yonbi and two unknown between Gobi, Rokubi, Nanabi and Hachibi.
    But what of that balance they mentioned then? Or haven't they extracted the 2 unknown?
    If we assume that each akatsuki were assigned to each bijuu, which ones will have completed their objectives so far?

    Deidara, Tobi, Kisame, either Hidan or Kakazu....probably the leader, and the other unknown akatsuki?
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    I am extremely excited about the new info on Suigetsu. Though I'd like to know more about his techiniques, interesting to here how cold-blooded and sadistic he is. "A child prodigy in the art of murder." I'm liking Suigetsu more and more.

    Juugo also seems to be an important, strong member, though Karin gets no love. My lasting impression however was, based on Deidaras comments of wanting to kill Orochimaru and how interesting "Hebi" is, it would not shock me that the first Akatsuki members Hebi will meet are Deidara and Tobi. Interested in the power that Tobi has in any case, considering that his personality doesnt lend itself to that of a fearsome ninja.

    By the way, am I to understand Suigetsu's surname is Houzuki, meaning he's got siblings? Or is Houzuki more of a group.

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    The White Fang is Kakashi's father, correct?

    Very good theory, chetty. It would be awesome if that came to be .

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    Nah, the leader is Naruto's twin/older brother. He has blue eyes and similar hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LobsterMagnet
    Wonder if we'll see some new inductees into the akatsuki. Honestly I'd be hilarious if the way Itachi defeats Sasuke is by simply offering a position to the other members of team snake.
    That would be pretty funny, though I'm pretty certain any new recruit would need to recover the Akatsuki ring of the previous member in order to join. Tobi was allowed to join only after he found Sasori's, and they never replaced Orochimaru; maybe partly because he hoarded his ring after leaving?

    I know there's another thread for this, but this chapter in particular makes me guess that Tobi is Obito....his humorous dialogue reminds me of Obito's excuse-making attitude a little bit too much. I wish Kishi would get this plot twist out of the way already.

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    Honestly, I don't want to see Suigetsu at all if he's going to be "the second coming of Zabuza". Doesn't show much potential for originality. We do know that he can avoid attacks by liquifying himself, but if he's a Zabuza clone, Kishi needs to make up some more stuff.

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