In the news today

[Buffalobiian]

This caught my attention, while reading other things.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ why men need to cheat

"Marriage is for the birds - the female birds. Let's see. I get married, my sex life ends, I work until I die, I am not appreciate*d, I have to bear venom and lies and nagging, and if I divorce she takes everything of mine, marital, pre-marita*l and post-marit*al, including my family photograph*s which are of no use to her. And stops me from seeing my children. No thanks.

How is modern marriage not cheating him of everything*?

Never tell me marriage is between a man and woman. If it were, there would be no government approval required, and no license produced. Marriage is between a man, a woman, and a judge. Get the judge out of my bedroom.

There is a reason she wears white and he wears black at the wedding. It is the happiest day of her life, and his funeral."

-someone's comment

xD

Except most of the time I think I see grooms wear white now, not black.

[dragonrage]

I really don't know how to react to this. I've always been against breast implant, thought of it as something only a really superficial and shallow person would do( with the exception for medical reasons, such as: breast cancer and what not. If it is what is needed to make you feel a little more whole again I totally support it). Hope those ladies are okay in the future, curse the french, another reason for the Brits to hate France.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012 breast implants

[rockmanj]

I've always been against breast implant, thought of it as something only a really superficial and shallow person would do( with the exception for medical reasons, such as: breast cancer and what not. If it is what is needed to make you feel a little more whole again I totally support it).[/URL]

Ohh...somewhat dangerous statement. I am guessing you are saying that you don't like the idea of them, unless you are saying you would never get them :P

[dragonrage]

lol, I didn't think about it that way. Let me clarify, I don't like the idea of a woman getting breast implant; there are exceptions to this of course but for the most part I think it says something about who you are if you do which most of the time indicates that you lack depth amongst other things.

[Animeniax]

Breast implants say a lot about society as a whole, not just the women who feel the need to get them. Remember, don't hate the player, hate the game.

[dragonrage]

Breast implants say a lot about society as a whole, not just the women who feel the need to get them. Remember, don't hate the player, hate the game.

You have a point. But it is also a person's choice whether to play or not and someone had to create the game and it took someone else to participate. And I don't regard a person's life as a game, it's not like there is a reset button and you can start over. But you do have a point.


p.s. The "game" got really fuck up when sixteen year old's started getting them as birthday presents.

[XanBcoo]

You have a point. But it is also a person's choice whether to play or not and someone had to create the game and it took someone else to participate. And I don't regard a person's life as a game, it's not like there is a reset button and you can start over. But you do have a point.


p.s. The "game" got really fuck up when sixteen year old's started getting them as birthday presents.

You don't knowingly not follow the rules of a game if you were brought up thinking basketball is played with a tennis racket.

Player/Game/Etc.

Don't hate.

Educate.

[dragonrage]

You don't knowingly not follow the rules of a game if you were brought up thinking basketball is played with a tennis racket.

Player/Game/Etc.

Don't hate.

Educate.

Que'? What rules and what game are you talking about? What exactly is the "educational" lesson?

[XanBcoo]

I was extending the "game" metaphor.

But it is also a person's choice whether to play or not and someone had to create the game and it took someone else to participate.

Unfortunately not everyone knows the same "rules" as you do, either through misinformation or lack of education regarding the issue. You can't honestly hold them morally culpable for this. It's more productive to spread the positive message you would like others to follow rather than implying that they are intrinsically broken or "lacking depth" which just feeds the negative opinion they have of themselves (which probably caused them to break the rules of the "game" in the first place) and changes nothing.

This applies to more than just cosmetic surgery.

[dragonrage]

I don't think we're on the same page here. The "game" phrase came in with Ani's comment.


I don't think there are specific rules to anything, there are choices and circumstances. Let's say for instance a couple (married or not) who is has been in love with eachother and wants to spends the rest of their lives together happens to one day decide to get breast implants for whatever reason (to spice things up, to make both of them happy) I say go for it. Not something I would choose but it's their choice. Or a woman has breast cancer and had to have an operation to save her life, if it makes her feel a little bit normal again, I am all for it, not that it is my choice or in anyway my business, but I definitely understand. Or someone has an accident and so on.

What I don't agree with is the pressure some woman face to have bigger breast or believing bigger breast means being more beautiful and sexually appealing because that is what the society or images, movies, advertisements we see everyday says or just having them because. It is their choice and certainly non of my business, but what's wrong with being natural? To me a woman's beauty and sex appeal is more than just her looks.

To me it, it says something about someone's personality and self esteem. One that is generally associated with being materialistic and superficial. But again that is just my opinion.

I do have a problem with sixteen year old's getting breast implants. They are still growing both mentally and physically and their parents and "doctors" should have better sense. But then again, that says a lot about the society one lives in.

Don't really know why breast implants would get more attention that the cheating article ( although, I do find the research base quite idiotic and pinpoint, which undergrad student (male or female) do you know that doesn't want to sleep with everything in sight, minus the few exceptions of course) but hey oh well.

[XanBcoo]

I don't think we're on the same page here. The "game" phrase came in with Ani's comment.

Yes, and he was totally on point for once. The idea of cosmetic surgery for aesthetic appeal says more about the "game" than it does the "player". "The game" being the way women are brought up in society as a result of a whole bunch of issues.


What you said here basically agrees with this sentiment:

What I don't agree with is the pressure some woman face to have bigger breast or believing bigger breast means being more beautiful and sexually appealing because that is what the society or images, movies, advertisements we see everyday says or just having them because. It is their choice and certainly non of my business, but what's wrong with being natural? To me a woman's beauty and sex appeal is more than just her looks.

Paying attention to the bolded parts, what do you think influences that choice? And then, can a person be held accountable for a choice made in the absence of good information or a proper education?

A sixteen-year old receiving breast implants as a gift does not know it's wrong, and in the end, neither does the mother. Who's to blame, then? Why does it matter?

We're quick to blame people for their decisions without realizing why those decisions were made in the first place, is all. I'm not even saying that the decision has to be respected, but rather understood.

/hippie

[dragonrage]

Yes, and he was totally on point for once. The idea of cosmetic surgery for aesthetic appeal says more about the "game" than it does the "player". "The game" being the way women are brought up in society as a result of a whole bunch of issues.

Originally Posted by Animeniax

Breast implants say a lot about society as a whole, not just the women who feel the need to get them. Remember, don't hate the player, hate the game.


dragonrage:You have a point. But it is also a person's choice whether to play or not and someone had to create the game and it took someone else to participate. And I don't regard a person's life as a game, it's not like there is a reset button and you can start over. But you do have a point.

A sixteen-year old receiving breast implants as a gift does not know it's wrong, and in the end, neither does the mother. Who's to blame, then? Why does it matter?

We're quick to blame people for their decisions without realizing why those decisions were made in the first place, is all. I'm not even saying that the decision has to be respected, but rather understood.

But then again, that says a lot about the society one lives in.

Don't see where I ever said I didn't agree with what he said or you for that matter. Just that I didn't regard someone's life as a game and that I didn't agree with certain things and clearly stated it was just my opinion. I never said I didn't understand, just that I don't agree with it.

Society: a community, nation, or broad grouping of people having common traditions, institutions, and collective activities and interests

taken from merriam-webster dictionary


We are all entitled to our opinions, views and preferences both you and I. Hippie.


p.s. Whose blaming? I do have a problem with certain things.


Are you saying that a parent who is responsible and should be informed about the medical and emotion impact of something like that being done to his or her child is absolved of that responsibility because it is socially acceptable? What about the doctor who should know and be very well educated in his field about it impact it has, is absolved of everything because it's socially acceptable?

Is that what you are saying?


If you go to a doctor (cosmetic or otherwise) they are required by law to explain what is going to be done to you. Where is the lack of information? Certainly there is no moral obligation, but where does ignorance come in?

[XanBcoo]

Not trying to start an argument, I was replying in particular to this comment:

But it is also a person's choice whether to play or not and someone had to create the game and it took someone else to participate.

Bottom line: Yes it's the person's choice, but made in light of poor information and belief structures. A person's actions and choices are their own, but if they're not a willing participant in the game it's not a fair fight and you can't really lay much blame on them for poor decisions if they're made without the knowledge of why it's a poor one.

Just saying. We basically agree on everything else.

[dragonrage]

Fair enough.

[rockmanj]

Is this news? http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/...i-world-record

[dragonrage]

Is this news? http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/...i-world-record

That's cheating. The thing has like 4 arms and internal precision movement for the cube, which human do you know was build just for the rubik's cube.


This caught my attention though; http://www.wired.co.uk/nuclear-monster-weapon-dismantled I always was fascinated with blowing stuff up, in a non-lethal Armageddon way, might explain why I excelled at chemistry.

This is also fascinating; http://www.wired.co.uk/kingdom-tower-planned-as-worlds-tallest-building pretty cool.


Both are old articles but stimulated me in a good way.

[UChessmaster]

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[dragonrage]

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Bill hasn't been past yet. There is a petition against it.
https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

[Marik]

Rest in peace, Whitney Houston.

Singer Whitney Houston dies at 48

[Sapphire]

HOLY FUCKING FUCKING HOLY FUCKIG OMG WHY NO