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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    I heard from a definitive source that he had the blood transfusions to clear his blood. It's a little known fact, not widely known by the public because it's selfish and kind of disturbing.
    If you had the money... why not? It's like paying for crazy expensive medication that no one else can buy.

    In the case of blood, you can argue that he's "taking emergency blood supplies", but as long as he took it from a place where they had plenty in stock, it wouldn't matter.

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    How does that work? From what I understand, blood replenishes itself as long as its in your body. Having that much foreign blood added to your body (ALL blood) without the body rejecting it somehow (I guess he took immunosuppresants?) seems insane to me.
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    Professional cyclers do it often. They Make huge blood transfusions so they can have more red globules and hemoglobin to transport more oxigen into their muscles. It was told that they even do it with some non human blood in not so high dosis.
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    Blood does not replenish itself. It dies sooner or later. Your bone marrow keeps producing it. In his case, it would be just diluting the virus concentration. And I'm pretty sure you don't reject other people's blood when you get the A/B/AB/O match-up right. That's the whole idea of it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    I heard from a definitive source that he had the blood transfusions to clear his blood. It's a little known fact, not widely known by the public because it's selfish and kind of disturbing.
    My issue is what happens to the HIV in the lymphatic system? Drain your body of blood and replace it with clean blood, ok fine. the virus still exists in your lymph nodes and will make it back to the blood in detectable concentrations unless something is suppressing that. A blood transfusion can't cure an HIV infection. I'm not seeing any source whatsoever, let alone reliable, saying that blood transfusions can possibly cure an HIV infection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Blood does not replenish itself. It dies sooner or later. Your bone marrow keeps producing it.
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    So the solution to AIDS is diluting the virus out?!?! I thought the virus replication rates were insane, like 1 drop of blood infecting you. Wouldn't the new blood be infected by the virus?
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    I have no idea if that works. I'm just assuming what Animeniax says is true, and explaining it that way.

    The new blood would be infected by the virus, yes. The dilution amount and frequency would have to be such that it causes an overall drop in viral particles in the overall body (based on Animeniax's account). I haven't got any data to suggest what such a routine would be.

    The virus replicates like crazy, yeah. It's mutation is the biggest hurdle so far - it not only replicates fast, but the HIV virus is also missing the "checking" mechanism that verifies the integrity of the copied protein during replication, which is the reason for its high mutation and difficulty in being identified and destroyed by the body.

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    The difference is that HIV is completely gone from this man body, while Magic Johnson still have to take daily doses of medication to suppress his condition. All of the transfusion he did certain somehow put the disease at a manageable level, but it's not really a practical way to go about curing everyone. The surgery here is life threatening, but they now knows that it works and that will lead to research for a medicine made from the HLA B57 genes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles View Post
    My issue is what happens to the HIV in the lymphatic system? Drain your body of blood and replace it with clean blood, ok fine. the virus still exists in your lymph nodes and will make it back to the blood in detectable concentrations unless something is suppressing that. A blood transfusion can't cure an HIV infection. I'm not seeing any source whatsoever, let alone reliable, saying that blood transfusions can possibly cure an HIV infection.
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    Riots in Vancouver after Canucks lose the Stanley Cup.

    I'm so glad I didn't go downtown to watch the game tonight. However, there are some great facebook groups that started up in opposition to the bad name these rioters are giving our city. One urges people to post pics of the rioters (I think with the aim of helping the police to recognize and charge them, but it seems to also be filling up with photoshops of various memes as well), and another for a post-riot cleanup.

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    Crazy canucks did the same thing after they lost in 94 to the Rangers, so it should have been expected and prepared for my local authorities. To be honest, their team really let them down and played a horrible game 7, so they needed the outlet.


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    Those 'fans' who go berserk after their team lost are retarded imho - they should take it like a man - not wreck anything and everything around them.

    There is a reason why the Gdansk, Gdynia and Sopot(3 cities in northern Poland that are basically one big city) is full of police patrols when the Gdansk's Lechia has match with Gdynia's Arka or vice versa. It is a very stupid idea to wear either green/white or blue/yellow clothing in public on such days. Well it is usually stupid idea to wear green/white clothing in Gdynia, and Blue/yellow one in Gdansk.
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    The fans seem to be taking it pretty bad. They should have been mentally prepared for this over the course of 7 games, since its not like they deserved to win the series the either way. Despite going down to the last game, in hindsight it really wasn't that close as they got outscored 23 - 7.

    Although I did enjoy it when the fans booed Gary Bettman after the game.

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    Wut? Why is having a team you were rooting for lose bad enough to start a riot? I didn't start a riot when [Naruto Anime Spoiler]Orochimaru died.[END Spoiler]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire View Post
    Wut? Why is having a team you were rooting for lose bad enough to start a riot? I didn't start a riot when Orochimaru died.
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    What really makes me frusturated about this is that other taxpayers and I have to foot the medical bills of the people who got themselves involved in this disgraceful event. I do understand that many people tried to get out of downtown as fast as they could, but they should have prepared for a loss and a safe ride home (especially how few could have forgotten the riots in Vancouver of 1994).

    Here's one thing about being a fan or having a hobby that many people don't realize - you don't have to be around tons of people to enjoy a passion. Instead of going to the allocated outdoor gatherings, people should just stay at home and watch it on their 30"+ LCD/plasma HDTV with or without friends with some drinks bought before the liquor stores closed early. For me, that's the best way to enjoy my entertainment.
    Last edited by enkoujin; Thu, 06-16-2011 at 02:14 PM. Reason: Added a bit more to my first paragraph that I didn't notice.

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    Indeed. I love watching basketball, but I would never watch it live. The view is much better from the tv screen, and I can chat about it while watching and eating great food with my friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    They have nothing better to do.
    Indeed. It's not like the rioters would be true fans of the sport or any team in the first place. They simply enjoy the company of their kin and look for excuses to riot and vandalize. It's the same people who infiltrate otherwise peaceful demonstrations and start to break shop windows and throw rocks at the police. Simply because they enjoy barbarism.

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    For great justice these need to be reposted.

    Extensive Photos - This story from the National Post made me realize how bad the riots really were.

    As for this guy...he totally deserved that.


    Lastly...Go Bruins!
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