NoOriginally Posted by Animeniax
Just no
No
Just no
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Weird, my criminal justice sociology professor agrees with you. We had a fun discussion in class where a lot of uninformed people gave the usual defenses against it. I think too many people think it'll be cowboys and indians if you allow concealed carry on campuses. It's strange since concealed carry is allowed in so many places and we haven't achieved anarchy and all out warfare in those locations.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Minimizing risks and variables is not achieved by increasing them.
It's especially inane to imply that things could have gone better in this case since the result was the 2nd best case scenario (1st being the guy not offing himself). By all eyewitness reports he was not out to harm anyone.
Keep the guns if you want, but don't try to argue that it would make things any safer.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
No I wouldn't argue it would make anyone safer beyond myself (or whoever is the licensed carrier is). It also wouldn't make things any less safe, which is what opponents are arguing.
I agree most likely nothing would have changed in the particular case of the math major with the AK. Bu relying on eye witness reports doesn't tell the whole story. According to those reports, he did fire indiscriminately as he ran which definitely made for a hazardous situation. Also, one buddy's gf's friend's car got impounded by the police as evidence because a round hit the car. Not exactly victim-free.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I'd like to think that if people were to go through a sufficiently rigorous process to be allowed to carry concealed firearms, that things would be safer, for everyone. Your big bad bravodo idiots in today's society might not be such idiots if they realized that there's a high chance that he'll be shot should he start trouble with someone, even if he's carrying a gun. Think mutually assured destruction. People would have SUCH manners...
"You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."
- Inquisitor Czevak
One problem is that in states like Texas, it's not a rigorous process to get your CHL. But rigor is a relative measurement anyway.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Sounds like the best case scenario to me, now taxpayers don't have to fund the incarceration of a lunatic.
Allowing concealed carries (and having a competent crisis response team) would have made the Columbine tragedy turn out a lot better than it did.
"They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
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