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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo
    Utah attempts to outlaw miscarriages

    Utah is gunning for "the most backwards English-speaking place to live". You're gonna have to step up your game Florida and Australia.
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    Damn it Texas, not again.

    Just when i finally got around to being glad that i live here.

    "Cynthia Dunbar, a lawyer from Richmond who is a strict constitutionalist and thinks the nation was founded on Christian beliefs, managed to cut Thomas Jefferson from a list of figures whose writings inspired revolutions in the late 18th century and 19th century, replacing him with St. Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and William Blackstone. (Jefferson is not well liked among conservatives on the board because he coined the term “separation between church and state."

    Just Brilliant. I've never been more ashamed of being republican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Dragon
    Damn it Texas, not again.

    Just when i finally got around to being glad that i live here.

    "Cynthia Dunbar, a lawyer from Richmond who is a strict constitutionalist and thinks the nation was founded on Christian beliefs, managed to cut Thomas Jefferson from a list of figures whose writings inspired revolutions in the late 18th century and 19th century, replacing him with St. Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and William Blackstone. (Jefferson is not well liked among conservatives on the board because he coined the term “separation between church and state."

    Just Brilliant. I've never been more ashamed of being republican.
    This is one of many proposed changes to the history books in Texas. The concern is that a lot of the nation's textbooks are produced in Texas, so this kind of conservative re-writing of history will affect the entire country, not just the podunks in Texas.


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    I wish to god Rick Perry had made good on his threat to secede from the union. Texas isn't even a state, it's a fucking time warp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Dragon
    Damn it Texas, not again.

    Just when i finally got around to being glad that i live here.

    "Cynthia Dunbar, a lawyer from Richmond who is a strict constitutionalist and thinks the nation was founded on Christian beliefs, managed to cut Thomas Jefferson from a list of figures whose writings inspired revolutions in the late 18th century and 19th century, replacing him with St. Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and William Blackstone. (Jefferson is not well liked among conservatives on the board because he coined the term “separation between church and state."

    Just Brilliant. I've never been more ashamed of being republican.
    "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;"
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Heretic Azazel
    I wish to god Rick Perry had made good on his threat to secede from the union. Texas isn't even a state, it's a fucking time warp.
    Rick Perry is the reason that i have to listen to this kind of ignorant bullshit all the time.

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    What I find funny is how the newspapers even over here have been following the proceedings in that health care bill issue. Of course it has nothing to do with your health care itself at all but rather the prospects of the rest of the world's favorite US president Obama.

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    I wouldn't mind seeing a summarized list of things that were included in the bill that have nothing to do with health care.

    It's mind boggling to me when they talk about "hiding" things in random bills... I mean, that might have flown in the 1800's when there was no access to information but you'd think in today's age that stuff like that would not be allowed to happen. But it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itadakimasu
    I wouldn't mind seeing a summarized list of things that were included in the bill that have nothing to do with health care.
    NPR has a good article that summarizes the immediate effects of this bill: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...24999058&ps=rs

    I love how this is showing me who I can defriend on Facebook. Lots of angry comments, threatening Texas secession, etc.

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    It isn't so much that they passed a heath insurance reform bill, it is the way that Nancy Pelosi, Obama, and Harry Reid basically flaunted that one way or another, they are going to ram this 2,700 page behemoth down our throats whether we like it or not.

    Just the blatant lack of respect for their constituents disgusts me. Towards the end, there was an undeniable air of, "The majority may no longer want this bill, but too fucking bad, we're doing it anyway so we can call it a 'victory' (and make lots of money on ghostwritten books)."

    I think we saw a very ugly side to Obama these last weeks that I am not too happy seeing. He showed a lack of...professionalism for his position. Not using diplomacy but using political bribes, threats, and other rather unsavory political tactics to force just enough votes. There were definite hints in his speeches that shared the same vindictive attitude that Pelosi and Reid have.

    Congress' approval rating is hovering around 17% now, and I don't see it raising too much after the sideshow we just witnessed.

    It isn't the cause itself that I'm against, it is this specific bill and the manner in which they accomplished it.


    I'm also pretty pissed off that they are lying by saying a 1 Trillion Dollar bill (coupled with all the wasted time/cost they've spent the past year on this) will magically reduce the deficit by 1 Trillion Dollars. They don't even have much of a clue how to fund it in the first place, how exactly is it supposed to reduce the deficit?

    I've also seen a few interesting calculations where it is now cheaper to pay the fine for not having insurance and only get it when you need it (since you cannot be denied for a preexisting condition). I can't guarantee the accuracy of those though, so it is little more than a fun sidenote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itadakimasu View Post
    I wouldn't mind seeing a summarized list of things that were included in the bill that have nothing to do with health care.

    It's mind boggling to me when they talk about "hiding" things in random bills... I mean, that might have flown in the 1800's when there was no access to information but you'd think in today's age that stuff like that would not be allowed to happen. But it does.

    There are no checks and balances for these types of things. It's bad enough the government tries to regulate everything when they need to be regulated themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itadakimasu View Post
    I wouldn't mind seeing a summarized list of things that were included in the bill that have nothing to do with health care.

    It's mind boggling to me when they talk about "hiding" things in random bills... I mean, that might have flown in the 1800's when there was no access to information but you'd think in today's age that stuff like that would not be allowed to happen. But it does.
    The thing is, that bill is 2000+ pages long. I don't know anyone who's read it in its entirety, I haven't heard of any politician having read it in it's entirety. I don't know there's any one person that can summarize this bill for for you, and then sift out the complete list of things that don't have anything to do with health care. If someone did read it, I doubt that someone understood more than half of it. I wouldn't put it beyond the writers of that bill to have made it so that you can't even break the bill into sections for different people to be responsible for reading, understanding, and then summarizing the bill.

    In the past, it used to be a matter of ease of attaining access to information and people being willing to spend time absorbing the information. This bill was designed to go through regardless of the opinions of the american people, regardless of whether you read or not, regardless of whether you're willing to take the time and effort to hold accountable the politicians who pushed this through, or not. I don't think the writers themselves each know everything that's in that bill.

    @Heretic:

    If I were you I wouldn't go around posting shit like "revolt nowwwwwwww!!" on anything of which a record can be made and kept. Not asking you to be afraid, just reserved and thoughtful...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles View Post
    I wouldn't put it beyond the writers of that bill to have made it so that you can't even break the bill into sections for different people to be responsible for reading, understanding, and then summarizing the bill.
    Reuters does a pretty good job: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1914020220100319

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles View Post
    @Heretic:

    If I were you I wouldn't go around posting shit like "revolt nowwwwwwww!!" on anything of which a record can be made and kept. Not asking you to be afraid, just reserved and thoughtful...
    See that kind of thinking is why everyone lives in fear and nothing ever gets done. When's the last time we had a good 'ol fashioned coup d'etat?? IT'S BEEN TOO LONG!!
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    Accused Counter-Strike Cheater Takes Knife Through the Head and Survives

    I can't believe he survived that. F'n crazy!. Look at the size of that knife in the x-ray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marik View Post
    Accused Counter-Strike Cheater Takes Knife Through the Head and Survives

    I can't believe he survived that. F'n crazy!. Look at the size of that knife in the x-ray.
    Best way to weed out hax: IRL Knives Only.

    And he got pwnd.

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    If they're all in the same internet cafe, why didn't someone just stand behind him and see if he can see through walls? Those crazy Chinese.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    If they're all in the same internet cafe, why didn't someone just stand behind him and see if he can see through walls? Those crazy Chinese.
    He got the knife through his head, so somebody definitely did stand behind his back long enough to notice. If nobody had noticed, he wouldn't have got knifed, after all.

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