In the news today

[Animeniax]

Indeed. It's not like the rioters would be true fans of the sport or any team in the first place. They simply enjoy the company of their kin and look for excuses to riot and vandalize. It's the same people who infiltrate otherwise peaceful demonstrations and start to break shop windows and throw rocks at the police. Simply because they enjoy barbarism.

I don't know how truthful your statement is. I think they are real fans, since fan is short for fanatic. These folks are fanatically devoted to their team, so when the team lets them down by playing poorly and losing badly, it's an emotional pain that needs an outlet in the form of destruction.

For great justice these need to be reposted.

Extensive Photos - This story from the National Post made me realize how bad the riots really were.

Lastly...Go Bruins!

Boston had its police ready for the Bruins fans, win or lose. Guess Vancouver is a little behind on mob control.

My favorite picture from what you posted:

If you had the money... why not? It's like paying for crazy expensive medication that no one else can buy.

In the case of blood, you can argue that he's "taking emergency blood supplies", but as long as he took it from a place where they had plenty in stock, it wouldn't matter.

Sorry, I forgot to reply to this. The difference is, blood supplies are a limited resource that relies on literal blood donations from other people. That blood is in short supply in a lot of areas and especially if there's a disaster. So giving it all to one guy just because he can afford it is like letting a murderer go because he is rich.

[UChessmaster]

Holy shit i agree with Ani.

[shinta|hikari]

I agreed with Mfauli recently. Maybe this is becoming a trend.

[Kraco]

I don't know how truthful your statement is. I think they are real fans, since fan is short for fanatic. These folks are fanatically devoted to their team, so when the team lets them down by playing poorly and losing badly, it's an emotional pain that needs an outlet in the form of destruction.

Maybe you are correct, and it's a question of sheer numbers. Vancouver metropolitan area has over two million people, which might generate enough idiots to turn a part of the city into a war zone. Such numbers aren't present here, explaining why things like this haven't happened anywhere close to me. There have only been a few fools in any city over here and their best efforts would look like children's play at the sandbox compared to these photos from Vancouver.

[Ryllharu]

I don't know how truthful your statement is. I think they are real fans, since fan is short for fanatic. These folks are fanatically devoted to their team, so when the team lets them down by playing poorly and losing badly, it's an emotional pain that needs an outlet in the form of destruction.

Unfortunately...this was not the case. They reported on the Thursday national nightly news (NBC) that the Vancouver police found many of the rioters had come prepared. Several people dressed as "fans" had gas masks, containers of gasoline, and other equipment.

They were going to incite and participate in a riot no matter what the outcome of the game was.

[Edort4]

I dont understand how losing a game can move people to this. As prophet said: "The IQ of a mob is the IQ of its dumbest member divided by the number of mobsters." I mean, there must be a lot better and more justified reasons to start rioting than this! Its just so roman empire like. Panem et Circenses.

Even though the pictures look quite brutal reading the reports I would assume that this wasnt such a big mess. It could be because police where well prepared, but I have a pathologic distrust for order forces effectiveness. So im guessing that there where just a few hundred of violent guys there and a few thousands of cheering observers.

I have read about way more injuries and property damages than what they reported in what news called "violent movements" or "fights for social/civil/worker rights" not so many years ago. I think that we live too apathetically (what we are sold as peacefully).

P.S: In case there are any doubts. I dont aprove this kind of violence and even less for those motives.

[Buffalobiian]

Sorry, I forgot to reply to this. The difference is, blood supplies are a limited resource that relies on literal blood donations from other people. That blood is in short supply in a lot of areas and especially if there's a disaster. So giving it all to one guy just because he can afford it is like letting a murderer go because he is rich.

I agree with you in cases where blood is in short supply. I did not include the following in my post since it's not backed up by anything (and because I have no idea how blood is actually "traded"), but he could have possibly obtained blood using more ethical means.

Using blood near their used-by date (if they have one) in areas where there is an ample supply of blood anyway. (If blood can be purchased in such a way anyway..)

Or, my primary idea, was that you would simply pay people to donate blood to you and have some sort of lab screen it all for nasties before using it. That's how I would do it anyway. You pay for you blood, but not by any way that leads to people talking about it in a negative way.

[Animeniax]

Holy shit i agree with Ani.

Thanks to mod action, people can't tell what you're agreeing with me about. We'll play it safe and think you like the chick making out on the ground in the picture.

Or, my primary idea, was that you would simply pay people to donate blood to you and have some sort of lab screen it all for nasties before using it. That's how I would do it anyway. You pay for you blood, but not by any way that leads to people talking about it in a negative way.

So what's the difference between this and prostitution?

Unfortunately...this was not the case. They reported on the Thursday national nightly news (NBC) that the Vancouver police found many of the rioters had come prepared. Several people dressed as "fans" had gas masks, containers of gasoline, and other equipment.

They were going to incite and participate in a riot no matter what the outcome of the game was.

Those articles prove nothing. If you knew the history of Vancouver teams, particularly their hockey team, you'd know they're prone to choking and losing. So the fans were prepared to be disappointed and upset and then to riot, not just to riot.

[darkshadow]

My favorite picture from what you posted:

Lol That's awesome, how far did they go?

Wut? Why is having a team you were rooting for lose bad enough to start a riot? I didn't start a riot when [Naruto Anime Spoiler]Orochimaru died.[END Spoiler]

lulz my sig is awesome ;3

[Assertn]

Flash bang to the bawls is all you need to know about the riots

[darkshadow]

That is freaking hilarious hahaha

[Animeniax]

In Canadia, does that constitute police brutality?

[dragonrage]

Where was the looting? Canadians haven't learned all the American ways yet. Is this Canada's attempt to to come out of the shadow of it's southern neighbor. Is this and attempt to breakout of it's peaceful and neutral image.

It is quite interesting to see this happen in Canada, it has a really low crime rate considering it has 20 million guns to about 10 million families.

note to self, Canadians are sports fanatics.

[enkoujin]

In Canadia, does that constitute police brutality?

It won't - usually police brutality in Canada usually happen on either peaceful protesters from the Toronto G8 of 2010 or on those already peacefully being arrested. It gets very complicated when tasers come into the picture, which makes me wonder, why were tasers not used for riot control? I mean, tear gas and pepper spray is pretty effective, but tasers should have been used.

Where was the looting? Canadians haven't learned all the American ways yet. Is this Canada's attempt to to come out of the shadow of it's southern neighbor. Is this and attempt to breakout of it's peaceful and neutral image.

The looting took place on some trivial street that you probably don't care about. Targets were London Drugs (retail drug store), The Bay (relatively high-end department store), Sears, Bank of Montreal and many other private establishments including jewelry stores and restaurants.

note to self, Canadians are sports fanatics.

No doubt.

You can expect a minima of 50% up to 70% of people being hockey fans or watchers - extreme or casual.

I also agree with Animeniax of all of his opinions thus far; a lot of people I've been arguing with over Facebook are talking about riots and blaming this all on the anarchists and the barbarians not from the Vancouver area. A lot of the fans try to reason that they were on the good side and everyone would like to think so. It is, indeed, a fact that there were Canuck fans amongst the crowd and that there were Vancouverites who did participate in the riot even though there was some criminal element involved in the crowds.

The city's image is now tarnished even more than before. However, if any good at all came from this, real estate in Vancouver may be cheaper now due to this incident, so it's some good opportunity to make some long-term cash.

[Animeniax]

Lol That's awesome, how far did they go?

No idea, it's one of several pictures taken during the riots posted on that website. If there were more pictures, I'd like to see them. Though it might ruin the magic of that picture, ie, if the girl isn't really that hot except when she's on her back and you can see her panties. I'm shallow that way.

Have any of you checked out the site posted by Ryllharu? Plenty of looting going on, and most of the people involved in the destruction and vandalism have on Canucks jerseys and t-shirts. Sure some of them could be thugs in disguise looking to cause trouble, but it's more likely they are thugs who are also Canuck fans looking to make trouble. Pretty wild stuff.

[Buffalobiian]

It won't - usually police brutality in Canada usually happen on either peaceful protesters from the Toronto G8 of 2010 or on those already peacefully being arrested. It gets very complicated when tasers come into the picture, which makes me wonder, why were tasers not used for riot control? I mean, tear gas and pepper spray is pretty effective, but tasers should have been used.

Aren't tasters just a one-use reload thing?

Seems pretty risky for the police to use that against a giant mob who all seem to be rather violent. I say flashbang works better.

[Animeniax]

Aren't tasters just a one-use reload thing?

Seems pretty risky for the police to use that against a giant mob who all seem to be rather violent. I say flashbang works better.

Most models are reloadable, and you only really use them on the unruliest of rioters. Flashbangs are good, but a bit excessive with potential for long term damage (though so is a tazer shock). They should stick to teargas and clubbings. They should also arrest anyone with a gas mask and make it a felony to bring one to a sporting event/mass gathering.

[Buffalobiian]

Yeah, by one-use reloadable I meant you had to shoot someone, discard the head with the conductive cord, reload a new one, aim and shoot again. It seems so time consuming when you can just tear-gas a mob at once - and as you said, club them.

I only mentioned flashbang because of the vid.

[shinta|hikari]

Shoot them. Done.

[dragonrage]

that's some of the happiest rioters i ever saw.