Naruto Shippuuden Episode 8-9

[Kraco]

I surely hope there was something concrete behind that advice. Otherwise it would be like telling Uchiha not to use Sharingan or Hyyuga not to use Byakugan. Or Gaara not to use sand. Of course it makes sense to not use it all the time, because unlimited pool would mean little need for control and that would mean lessening professionality, but if he's going to go against Akatsuki dudes, it surely should be a minor detail how cleanly he fights.

Besides, whatever dangers may be hidden in using the sealed powers, it should be obvious that the better he is able to master and control them, the less chance of any fall to the dark side there should be. But if he never uses them, then it would be like giving an assault rifle to a chimpanzee.

[DarthEnderX]

I'm also one that enjoyed Naruto's soliloquy. It explains his motivations. Which are what puts the fights into context.

[DB_Hunter]

It would make sense that it was a genjutsu, as he didn't stuff himself in to Naruto's body Majin Buu style. However even genjutsu's can have real effects... remember the fight between Itachi and Kakashi?

[Assertn]

In that regard, I would say that the "dispelling of kyubi" or w/e he does in that scene would be the equivalent of him tampering with the linkage between naruto's subconscious and the kyubi.

[chet_chetty]

Was it agreed upon that Kakashi used Sharingan to literally read (interact with) Zabuza's mind to copy his words and seals at the same time. As opposed to Sharingan simply giving Kakashi an insane amount of intuition to put verbal/physical clues together to imitate Zabuza?

With Sasuke, I feel his subconscious (hell maybe even his conscious mind) literally enters another's subconscious and interacts with what's inside the other's subconscious. I feel with Naruto, in his relationship with Kyuubi, his conscious mind plays a strong role in his own subconcious so he can interact consciously (repetitive) with Kyuubi i.e. talk to and reason w/ Kyuubi to give him chakra.

[DB_Hunter]

I would agree that Sasuke is not 'literally' dispelling the Kyuubi chakra, because that would be almost like destroying Kyuubi or at least having an attack that can neutralise it. It is much more likely that he is trying to screw with Naruto perception of the amount of Chakra he has at his own disposal.

Maybe the warning from Jiraiya might be that if Naruto uses Kyuubi's chakra, he will be putting enormous strain on the seal Yondaime placed on him? If you think about it, if Naruto is going to be performing increasingly powerful attacks using more and more Kyuubi chakra, then in essence more of Kyuubi is coming out of the sealed state into the real world. Perhaps Jiraiya noticed signs of that during his training with Naruto.

[RyougaZell]

and what does this have to do with episodes 8-9?

Sasuke's topic should be left on standby until it takes place in the series? sure... it was shown on episode 1, but it was just a teaser of the future

heck, we don't even know how many episodes will pass before we get to see this scene again

[DB_Hunter]

Even though the scene was a teaser of what is yet to come, it is part of the anime now and by all rights up for discussion on this section of the forum.

[RyougaZell]

Last post from my part:

Then that gives me the right to talk about the other Akatsuki, apart from Itachi, Kisame, Sasori, Deidara and XXXX?
The silhoueettes of other two clearly appeared on the last episode.

Or how about the new characters on the teaser where they showed Sasuke?

Discussin (sp?) such scenes will only bring troublesome rumors, instead of centering on what is really happening.

[6Zabuza9]

akatsuki are full of freaks. a fish guy, plant head guy, a guy with a wierd mouth,and a guy with mouths in his hands. so the strongest ninjas are usually freaks lol

[JaySee]

A guy with a wierd mouth? lol! I'm surprised no one has figured it out or discussed it.

[6Zabuza9]

sasori as u see his mask off at the end of the episode

[JaySee]

Uh... yeah... got that. I meant no one's discussed it being revealed and what it means.

[RyougaZell]

Nice point about Sasori Jaysee.

A mechanical mouth, plus a mechanical tail. And a puppet crafter to boost.

[mage]

I guess i should just state the obvious then: His body is a puppet!

[Assertn]

As in he's like....a cyborg....except with implants made of wood instead of metal?

[itadakimasu]

i'd like to say hooray for double episodes... bleach had 2-3 in the bounto arc and i'm still waiting for another bleach double episode. anyhow... this episode was ok, makes me eager to see whats going to come next ... or rather how they animate it. *tears* "GAI SENSEIIIII!!!!! i did it !!!!!!"

[Assertn]

BTW anyone notice that a bunch of visual effects were added to the intro this time?

[RyougaZell]

Errr... no.
I will need to rewatch it later today then.
What kind of effects?

[DB_Hunter]

Then that gives me the right to talk about the other Akatsuki, apart from Itachi, Kisame, Sasori, Deidara and XXXX?

The silhoueettes of other two clearly appeared on the last episode.

Or how about the new characters on the teaser where they showed Sasuke?

As long as all the information is derived from the anime, you can't technically ban discussion on it. Of course there is the danger that some manga readers might get too happy and start dropping hints/theories which are from the manga. But then that's what forum moderators are for...

Edit: And who is that last guy from Akatsuki you mention? I have not heard that name in the anime before.