Naruto Shippuuden Episode 8-9

[RyougaZell]

The only bad comments on Bleach's week this episode were the horrendous new songs. Do you see anyone praising Naruto's songs this week? No? Then get over it and grow up.

Geez....


Yes. Kankurou's line was dumb. But the middle of a fight... do you rationalize what the hell happened? He never noticed that Sasori was using poison until he was poisoned. He was too busy escaping from the tail to notice the purple poison. And he thought he had blocked the tail, but seems just a little needle's touch was enough, since the poison was so powerful.

[Kraco]

While I don't consider that fight particularly enjoyable - mainly because it was so evident story wise how it would end even before it began - it's still reasonable to assume, seeing how Kankuro collapsed right afterwards anyway, that the poison was also foggying already his mind at that point when he wondered how he had been poisoned.

[ASSpirine]

If I understood correctly, Sasori's name is Chiyo Basaama? Don't think Baki will be talking about someone else from the Akatsuki that's from the Sand village. Those two elders, they are siblings huh? So Chiyo Basaama will be the grandson of the female, don't tell me the male is the grandfather... Or this is some sick village, where siblings are mating with each other :P
And, uhm, did the male elder had no eyes at all?... At least it didn't seem like it...

The Kankuro-Sasori fight, at first I thought Sasori was a scorpion like human type thingy, so I figured the poison was during the stab when it happened. So not a surprise.

Wonder what Jiraiya has to do, is he so occupied to help Naruto? And also, when does Tsunade ever get to do missions? The third did missions if needed, think this is a situation where it was kinda needed.

[mage]

If I understood correctly, Sasori's name is Chiyo Basaama? Don't think Baki will be talking about someone else from the Akatsuki that's from the Sand village. Those two elders, they are siblings huh? So Chiyo Basaama will be the grandson of the female..

Sasori is the guy that fought Kankurou. Chiyo is the old lady.

[Kraco]

Wonder what Jiraiya has to do, is he so occupied to help Naruto? And also, when does Tsunade ever get to do missions? The third did missions if needed, think this is a situation where it was kinda needed.

I very much doubt the Fifth would bother doing any missions unless they involve infiltrating a sake bar...

[DB_Hunter]

I don't recall Sarutobi going on a mission, even though technically a Kage could be expected to go on an A-Rank mission.

[masamuneehs]

i was pretty unimpressed with this episode. Aside from introducing Sasori's grandparents, I felt the entire thing could have been one episode. It seemed to take forever for Konoha to find out, react, and actually send out Team Kakashi... They did detail the whole thing, with the bird and the decoder and all that, but I would have been fine without all that...

The fight. You just knew Kank had no chance of winning, but I was happy with the little twist of Sasori being a former Sand nin, and the creator of the puppets. Kank is an idiot; disobeying orders, being overconfident, failing to analyze his opponent at all (he was so busy pissing himself over his attacks being countered that he failed to notice the poison or the form of attack Sasori goes for).

Baki was the best thing in this episode. He looks to have all the right stuff for leading the Sand in the interim.

The frog waking up Jiraiya was the worst part, totally useless and not even funny.

Other heavy handed crap: Temari's cup breaking (why does everyone insist on including these omen moments in anime?), tons of recap, Naruto's 2000th speech about him and some monstrous person "being the same" and how the power of friendship is important.

Finally, on a positive note: So each Akatsuki member is aiming to possess a Jinchuuriki, meaning there are nine of them. Deidara getting the "one tail" and his addressing Sasori as "Master" gave me the impression that he's the weakest out of the group. Makes it seem like the best Akatsuki will go after Naruto.

Also, they openly admit that they don't know the location of all the Jinchuuriki (also unclear if Sasori is going after Naruto or someone else, since Itachi came after him one time as well...). And it made me wonder, where the heck are the other seven? There's more Jinchuuriki than Hidden Villages, so some have more? Konoha and the Sand appear to only have one...
Looks like all that important stuff won't be revealed for who knows how long...

[mage]

I don't recall Sarutobi going on a mission, even though technically a Kage could be expected to go on an A-Rank mission.

We see him confront Orochimaru in his hidden lab room with Enma and two other ninjas in a flash back, but I don't know if that can really be called a mission.

[DB_Hunter]

I think Itachi is the one that's going to end up with the Kyuubi mission. There are a few reasons that back this up.

1) Itachi was sent to get Kyuubi with Kisame before.

2) Itachi, when breaking of pursuit of Kyuubi because of Jirayia, indicated to Kisame that they do not have to hurry in getting it. The language indicated that he was talking about himself and Kisame coming back later, rather than Akatsuki as a whole.

3) It would make sense for Itachi to come after Kyuubi. He is a) strong and b) from Konoha. The latter would make him suited to going after Naruto, as he would know the kinds of techniques he could have been potentially taught. He has been through the same village afterall and probably knows the most information about it than any other Akatsuku member.

Of course an interesting point is made that there seem to be more Akatsuki members than hidden villages. This may indicate that is potentially more than one member per hidden village in Akatsuki. If this is the case then point 3) could be challenged if there is another Konoha Akatsuki member in existence. Oro was there as well afterall so it isn't toofar fetched.

As for Deidara being the weakest as he got the Ichibi, I'm not too sure about that. Kisame didn't seem all that to me either.

[Penner]

Heya ppl.

Just one thing ..what the hell is up with everyone and their 'god-complex', they just run up and expect to beat down Akatsuki members?
Why have they gotten so massively overconfident, i mean, they are fighting Akatsuki ffs, not random thugs..these guys are some of, if not THE, most dangerous guys in the entire naruto universe (aside from a select few, Jiraya, Tsunade, Orochimaru etc..)

And yet theyre shocked & surprised when they get their asses handed to em lol, good thing they get their asses kicked to get a little reality-check imo :P

other than that, good ep. ^^

[ASSpirine]

I don't recall Sarutobi going on a mission, even though technically a Kage could be expected to go on an A-Rank mission.

Sarutobi going after Orochimaru after a lot of missing Shinobis.
And also, a flashback of Konohamaru in front of the door saying goodbye to the Third. The third was leaving for a mission and Konohamaru didn't want him to leave. Also, on the mission assignments according to the type of mission (A, B, C & D) the hokage was assigned to do A missions.

About Itachi going after the Kyubi, he said it himself that he had to obtain the Kyubi for the organisation. He didn't say it was for himself. And Sasori said, it doesn't matter if I don't get the Jinchuuriki (I was assigned to?). As long as I get to capture one, then it will be good enough for the organisation.

And, Sasori the strongest one? Hard to say, we've only met 5 akatsukis and one that has left the organisation (Orochimaru).

So the question is, there were 10 members in the group. Oro left, does that mean that there are 10 Jinchuuriki?

[DB_Hunter]

Yes Itachi has to obtain the Kyuubi for Akatsuki, but he implied that he would be coming back later to do that job for Akatsuki.

[Genma]

So the question is, there were 10 members in the group. Oro left, does that mean that there are 10 Jinchuuriki?

Probably not. The Japanese folklore legend only has 9 (with the strongest being the 9-tailed fox, Kyuubi), so I doubt there are 10. Plus, that'd mean that Naruto doesn't have the strongest Jinchuuriki, and since he's the main character...

To top that off, Akatsuki operates in two man teams. When Orochimaru left, he was replaced.

[ASSpirine]

Probably not. The Japanese folklore legend only has 9 (with the strongest being the 9-tailed fox, Kyuubi), so I doubt there are 10. Plus, that'd mean that Naruto doesn't have the strongest Jinchuuriki, and since he's the main character...

To top that off, Akatsuki operates in two man teams. When Orochimaru left, he was replaced.

Where was that ever stated that Oro was replaced? Never heard anything about that.
Still... 2 man teams, they are with 9, kinda impossible to do the 2 man team perfect. Although, that plant akatsuki that came from the ground after the Naruto-Sasuke battle did kinda talked to himself

I'm guessing Naruto is gonna encounter with Sasori, so why wouldn't Sasori deal with the Kyuubi. The main story will eventually be, Itachi vs Naruto I think. But why would you do the trouble and look for other Jinchuuriki when there's one fighting you.

[RyougaZell]

Heya ppl.

Just one thing ..what the hell is up with everyone and their 'god-complex', they just run up and expect to beat down Akatsuki members?
Why have they gotten so massively overconfident, i mean, they are fighting Akatsuki ffs, not random thugs..these guys are some of, if not THE, most dangerous guys in the entire naruto universe (aside from a select few, Jiraya, Tsunade, Orochimaru etc..)

And yet theyre shocked & surprised when they get their asses handed to em lol, good thing they get their asses kicked to get a little reality-check imo :P

other than that, good ep. ^^

Before this battle Suna ignored the existance of Akatsuki. Yuura told them a few eps ago.

[JaySee]

Yes. Kankurou's line was dumb. But the middle of a fight... do you rationalize what the hell happened? He never noticed that Sasori was using poison until he was poisoned. He was too busy escaping from the tail to notice the purple poison. And he thought he had blocked the tail, but seems just a little needle's touch was enough, since the poison was so powerful.

Kankuro was retarded:
1. He's shocked Sasori uses poison. Sasori, the guy who made his puppets and the tactics he studies and copies.
2. He did not escape the tail, it hit him and tore his clothing.
3. No way in hell did he think he blocked the tail when he gets off the floor grabbing the hole in his chest.

While I don't consider that fight particularly enjoyable - mainly because it was so evident story wise how it would end even before it began - it's still reasonable to assume, seeing how Kankuro collapsed right afterwards anyway, that the poison was also foggying already his mind at that point when he wondered how he had been poisoned.

No one said the poison affects his mind and he was more than lucid enough to block Sasori's finishing attack, AND take a swipe at him, AND grab a piece of his face mask, AND tell that it was Sasori that poisoned him. His mind seems A-OK.

If I understood correctly, Sasori's name is Chiyo Basaama?

Chiyo is the old lady. Basama is an honorable way of saying old lady/grandma. Naruto uses the familiar version on Tsuanade, bachan. Sasori doesn't have grandparents. He has a grandparent. Chiyo did not have sex with her brother. The old man isn't his grandfather. He's his grand uncle. I don't know why you people think of this incest crap.

Other heavy handed crap: Temari's cup breaking (why does everyone insist on including these omen moments in anime?), tons of recap, Naruto's 2000th speech about him and some monstrous person "being the same" and how the power of friendship is important.

Both were in the manga. 269

[DB_Hunter]

Sasori doesn't have grandparents. He has a grandparent. Chiyo did not have sex with her brother. The old man isn't his grandfather. He's his grand uncle. I don't know why you people think of this incest crap.

Lol owned!

As for why Baki didn't run to the siblings and walked instead, from my perspective they were up on a high cliff and it was pretty windy... he might have gotten blown off maybe if he ran...?

[Kraco]

No one said the poison affects his mind and he was more than lucid enough to block Sasori's finishing attack, AND take a swipe at him, AND grab a piece of his face mask, AND tell that it was Sasori that poisoned him. His mind seems A-OK.

He lost his consciousness. According to my experience consciousness and mind are somewhat connected to each other. You might disagree, of course.

He could have fought like he did even with a mind starting to be affected due to his heavy training. The fight honestly wasn't so intensive to begin with, and it never looked like he - or Sasori - fought 100%.

[Psyke]

Just one thing ..what the hell is up with everyone and their 'god-complex', they just run up and expect to beat down Akatsuki members?
Why have they gotten so massively overconfident, i mean, they are fighting Akatsuki ffs, not random thugs..these guys are some of, if not THE, most dangerous guys in the entire naruto universe (aside from a select few, Jiraya, Tsunade, Orochimaru etc..)

It's not a matter of 'god-complex' or over confidence. Any self respecting ninja/shinobi would go after some one who kidnapped a family member, regardless of whether they die in the process or not.

And no matter what, Akatsuki members are still...... only human.

[Animeniax]

I've never liked Kankurou, from way back as a genin picking on Konohamaru, and even now as a chuunin. He's a pretty crappy ninja, with a gimmicky skill set and foolish look. He deserves to get beat down.

The Akatsuki may all be human, but they are also all S-class wanted criminal ninjas, making them some of the most dangerous ninja in the world. No chuunin will stand a chance against them. Even the legendary Sannin and some kages will have problems dealing with them. Unfortunately, not everyone in the Naruto world knows who the Akatsuki are or what they are capable of. So you can't really blame an idiot pig-headed Kankurou for thinking he could beat some guy, when he doesn't know what he is dealing with.

@Kraco, sorry dude, but he was conscious and able, and still looking to gain some advantage from his defeat. I can't say how the scrap of Sasori's face mask will help the Sand village's cause, but they elaborated enough on that scene so you know it means something.
So it's still pretty ridiculous for him to wonder how he was poisoned. It's also kind of crappy how Sasori didn't finish him off, falling into the cliched "bad guy leaves some crackpot scheme in place to finish off his adversary, instead of seeing to it himself".

@masamuneehs: Your comment about Baki doing well in this episode perplexes me. I was thinking the exact opposite, that he looked inept and incapable as a leader through most of the last 4 episodes. They have him posting orders well after the fact, like securing the village and checking for other attackers. Then he orders people around and they ignore his orders and get killed or hurt bad. And in the end, he takes a stroll to beg for help from the Sand village retirement community. I was thinking the entire time, maybe if he uncovered the other half his face, he'd use the other half of his brain too.