the main character or i guess made it seem gay cause of the roller blades in my opinion...
the main character or i guess made it seem gay cause of the roller blades in my opinion...
Im thinking about starting starting the first and second seasons, which should I dl the triad ver. or Dgz's dvd scans?
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Triad definitely. They are better.
I just watched ep 2 and 3. Acceptable eps. And I thought all new forwards were girls, but seems I was wrong. And Kyaro/Carol's introduction... err... LOL
Oh well... I'll delete this eps when Triad finally decides to release them. Guess I'll have to do the watch NanohaDGZ/Yesy and archive Triad.
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Episode 4 - Yesy
Last edited by RyougaZell; Sun, 04-29-2007 at 12:15 AM.
Episode 04 - [Nanoha-DGz]
Another whole episode of build up, the development was nice, but I really wanted to see the new devices in action before it was over.
This is my first series of this type and I'm noticing something that really stands out to me...I have detected almost no character conflict. I don't know if I'm just missing it or if it's not generally part of the genre or what but it feels like every single character gets along quite well with every other character and there are no shady opposing factions working from the inside against the main protagonists. The only strife I've detected thus far was from that short girl working with the big wolf creature and Signum (Vita?), when she was judged the new recruits as non-useful. Is this something standard in more 'girly' action shows or am I just grasping at straws?
Did you watch the first two seasons? Well, no matter, I'll just mention a couple of things: The core old cast in this is composed largely of former enemies. Nanoha and Fate were enemies in the original series, Signum and the rest were the enemies of the second series. So, the some sort of concept of the series is to get to know your enemy and find out why she's an enemy, and then, if possible, make her not your enemy. Keeping that in mind it's not surprising they get along so well. Though in the second series there was some villainous background play, so who knows...Originally Posted by Yukimura
Anyway, the one thing that captured my attention in this episode (aside from shower scenes) were the particularly artificial sounding personal power limiters. Limiting device power in training makes some sense so that the newbies wouldn't kill themselves or each other, but restricting the officers' power levels looks only like a way to make them practically usable in battles (so that they won't blow the enemy out of the sky in three seconds). After all, unless they get paid according to their power rank and the unit budget wouldn't allow it, it seems stupid to limit their powers. Not having overqualified people in due to some regulation sounds only like bad or envious management, if it's not a money issue.
Of the earlier seasons, DGz is technically better. They took Triad's translation and fixed any errors that Triad listed (but never released v2's for). I'd still recommend Triad for the earlier seasons.
As for StrikerS, DGz has their own translation team this time around, produce the best visual quality (even over Triad's eps 1), and their translations have slightly less mistakes than Triad's, and much fewer than yesy.
If you go to Triad's site, it's pretty clear that they really lost all interest in Nanoha. Many members of the staff hold the series openly in disdain. Before it was more of a joke, but now they seem to actually mean it. They put very little effort into episode 1. My Japanese isn't all that good, but even I was able to notice problems. There are a lot of translation mistakes, and the encoding and timing are sub-par for their typical work. I no longer believe they are just waiting for good raws. The video quality on the first season of Triad's releases was about equivalent to yesy's medium quality. There is no reason that they should not have found a better raw for episode 2 by now. The whole team is obviously much more interested in Bokurano.
As much as I hate to admit it, don't waste your time on Triad's StrikerS releases. Even for archiving. They really just don't seem to care anymore. Watch DGz instead.
I didn't like DGZ's version.
Their files obviously depend on what you have installed, since when they try to show kanji I only see blocks.
Haven't seen Yesy's release.
Bokurano is also slow on Triad. While Nanoha is 3 eps behinda, Bokurano is 2.
DGz's version is softsubbed, which is why you have that issue. I've had it before myself. To fix the issue of only seeing blocks for the kana and kanji, you need to install the East Asian Language packs on XP or have them supported in OSX or whatever operating system you may use.
Can't download them. Microsux validates legal copy of windows whenever I want to download. I have XP lite, which obviously isn't legal. I won't reinstall my legal copy of XP Home because it sux.
Language packs are on the CD. No need to download. And there are ways to download w/o validation. There's nothing illegal about XPLite and no reason you should fail validation anyways. You're probably just running an illegal copy of XP or those wanna-be warez XP Lites.
Ryllharu: Any suggestions to download that? After looking for a month for the files (4 months ago) I gave up.
Or is Yesy's version good?
Triad dropped the series today btw. Ironically I already watched all the eps. Triad just lost my respect, but not because of dropping the series, but because of subbing something they don't like, bitching everyday about they don't like it, and then just insulting those that watch it. What was the point??
Last edited by RyougaZell; Tue, 05-01-2007 at 12:24 AM.
The language packs really *are* on the XP cd. I remembered when I reinstalled XP a couple of weeks ago I didn't have to download them because I included them at the install.
Control Panel > Regional and Language Options > Languages. Check the box that says "Install files for East Asian Languages"
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As for Triad, it does pain me to say it, since I liked a lot of their work in the past, but good riddance. They could have simply said, "Within the group we've lost interest, so we're dropping Nanoha" or "We've lost interest and most of the raws are of such terrible quality, we decided to drop it and focus on ___". They've really changed from the group they used to be. I've noticed more mistakes in a lot of their work, or just very unpolished translations, which is odd for their typical quality. I appreciate what they've done in the past, but to get out of it this way...
Though, their description of the first 6 episodes is undoubtedly accurate. StrikerS has had a much slower pace than both previous seasons. However, StrikerS is also twice as long, so this slowdown should be expected. I really don't mind them training if it means more impressive displays later on.
In the first season, Nanoha had to get a crash course in Mahou Shoujo in order to defeat and befriend Fate. It helped that she was absurdly strong on a base level. The same thing goes for A's. The only power up Nanoha and Fate had was the addition of cartridges into their devices so they could release explosive bursts of power (which Nanoha did fine on her own anyway). Even Hayate, once she gained control over the Book, instantly had all the knowledge the book had ever absorbed.
In StrikerS, the girls (and boy) are all total novices. Subaru can barely use magic without the cartridges (which is why she uses Modern Belkan style, said in eps 4). Tiana is a genius at tactics, but is incredibly weak in terms of stamina. Caro doesn't have any offensive abilities since she's like Shamal, and Elio is very specialized in speed combat. Look at A's when the other Bureau mages show up. They are fairly weak. The past two seasons we've been spoiled by how advanced the girls all were. It's kind of nice to see how others have to be trained in order to achieve some competency. If we have to wait before Subaru can belt out a Point-Blank Starlight Breaker, I'm all for it.
(Note: To fully understand how overwhelming Nanoha really is, read the wiki article on what the Starlight Breaker actually does according to the dvd booklets. Offensive Abilities Yes, that means expended energy from everyone.)
Done. Fortunately my XP home service pack 1 disc was still under the bed :P (where I left it over 5 years ago at least).
Thanks for the help Ryllharu.
I take it NanohaDGZ is the best version out of it and yesy's?
And yeah. The pace of this series is way different. And it is understandable. With past seasons in ep 4 it was almost half way the series. And personally I like how the pace in StrikerS is set.
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Oh yeah... when I reboted it asked me to install PRORET.MSI... but it wasn't on the disc.... I hope it doesn't cause me future problems... I hope...
I have been downloading Yesy's MQ subs, and haven't noticed any problems whatsoever. Still, I mainly chose them because I liked their work on Utawarerumono, so it's not like I would have tried to judge which one is better.
I obviously prefer DGz, since I found a couple of errors in one of yesy's releases. It was the uber low quality one, so it was probably a one time thing. I also like the softsubs that are defaulted off during the OP. It's rare to see a clean opening, it's what I liked about Shinsen's Black Lagoon releases.
Well, after watching 3 out of 4 eps by DGZ, the only issues I have are Raising Heart and the kanji, the latter was already fixed though.
I watched Kashimashi or Ichigo 100% from Yesy... can't remember which one (or was it My wife is a schoolgirl?) and they are good, but I am lazy to download 4 eps again...
Hmm... now that I think about it...I think I am gonna fix those errors by extracting the sub files with the mkv tool fix I was recommended on the support thread....
For some reason I can't explain I wait for Strikers releases as much as Claymore releases...
Episode 5 xvid - Yesy
Episode 5 h264 MQ - Yesy
Please notice the h264 version isn't HQ, either. It's just that, according to Yesy's web site, the episode contained so much action the xvid encoding had hard times keeping quality sufficient, and so they decided to release another MQ version in h264 to fix that issue. I'd personally go for h264, because no doubt the encoder knows what he's talking about.
Ep5 out already by Yesy? Hopefully Nanoha-DGZ will release theirs later. Some weeks Yesy releases first, and others later.
Anyway... I visited Triad's website the other day and found out their news full of insults... LOL.
I mean... come on... they dropped it already... whats the need of insulting them that much? They won't pick it up again :P
Nanoha StrikerS - 05 - [Nanoha-DGz]
Woot new the new gear is sweet, and that dragon is a lot more dragony then I'd thought. I was surprised they used almost 5 minutes just for transformations. I'm guessing that was special b/c it was the first time we'd seen them transform in a battle situation, but is it common in the genre for the whole transformation to get shown every time for everyone?
Last edited by Yukimura; Wed, 05-09-2007 at 04:47 PM.
Well... in the first season we saw Nanoha 'henshin' almost everytime. In second season it was the same for Fate and Nanoha, while Hayate's warriors didn't transform like that. I don't even know if they will get one now that they are 'good'.
Most likely it was because it was their first battle, since Nanoha and Fate had already 'henshin'-ed before, out of battle. We only had two characters that transformed before, so hopefully we will only see their full transformations once in a while (and not all of them together again)
Anyway... my comments on the episode.
While I still do not like the idea of this robots being the enemies... seeing the dude at the end makes me hope he sends more powerful machines, or gets a team of evil magicians to battle Subaru and Cia. I mean... the previous two seasons where always about direct battles between Nanoha and Fate / Nahoha/Fate and Vita/Signum.
The transformations sequences were 100% Nanoha... lol... showing... a lot... but I wonder... does Subaru wear anything under those shorts? LOL!! errr.... damn.
Friedrich (sp?) transformation was something I wasn't expecting, but it looked good. I guess Kyaro/Carol (whatever...) was suppressing its power since she was expelled from her village.
Oh yeah... they never did state in what planet this is taking place right? I wonder if we will get scenes at Earth in the future...
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