Claymore

[Ryllharu]

Well...my theory is that because Clare has Teressa's flesh crafted into her, she is now using Teressa's Yoki because she passed her own limit but has yet to pass Teressa's limit. So it could be that Clare's side has awakened but Teressa's hasn't?

Limits seem to be based off mental strength alone. Very similar to the situation with Jeane, who had far exceeded her body's own. If you can keep it in check, you can go up and up. Clare is far weaker than normal Claymores in terms of Yoki because she has Teresa's flesh instead of a yoma.

Any Yoki she's using is her own, taken from the 1/4 yoma flesh her body took in from Teresa's.

[Inazuma]

I think being 1/4 Yoma is not that different from being 1/2 Yoma.
It seems that with mental strenght they can focus on their Yoma side, being 1/4 means less massive raw power, but limited refined power when reaching/nearing one's limit

[Kraco]

Yoma have the uncontrollable urges, instincts, to eat guts and do other inhumane things. Of course it could be argued humans as well have all manner of needs, but for simplicity's sake it could be assumed that humans aren't slaves to such urges. Keeping this in mind 50% yoma is, technically speaking, twice as much prone to not be able to control herself than 25% yoma. Basically the awakening is nothing more than giving in to the beast inside them. Of course individual differences might play even a bigger role. But statistically the average should obey such laws.

Although it bothers me greatly that the big shot awakened ones seem to be totally in control of themselves. In fact many ordinary Claymores are less controlled than them. But perhaps that's just the very top.

[UChessmaster]

uhmmmm what happened to EVERY other claymore?? last time we know there are 5 AB dead and 5 claymores dead and then woosh, only main caps helen, deneve and clare are alive? even though you can see the other claymores when the ABs left?

[David75]

Yoma have the uncontrollable urges, instincts, to eat guts and do other inhumane things. Of course it could be argued humans as well have all manner of needs, but for simplicity's sake it could be assumed that humans aren't slaves to such urges. Keeping this in mind 50% yoma is, technically speaking, twice as much prone to not be able to control herself than 25% yoma. Basically the awakening is nothing more than giving in to the beast inside them. Of course individual differences might play even a bigger role. But statistically the average should obey such laws.

Although it bothers me greatly that the big shot awakened ones seem to be totally in control of themselves. In fact many ordinary Claymores are less controlled than them. But perhaps that's just the very top.

It seems Claire probably had the simplest "controlled and revert" awakening due to this 1/4 yoma.
By the way. The organisation put Teresa's blood and flesh in Clare, resulting in 1/4 yoma.
Did they put more than 1/2 yoma in Priscilla for her to be so strong, and become berserk so quickly? They never explained how they concluded they have to put 50%. To me that could explain why after awakening, the human form she seems is so autist.
My question in fact is: why do some claymores grow strong so quickly, with such an innate strength...? when they all are weak little girls before becoming claymores.
Is it related to the yoma's flesh and blood they implant? That would mean
the organisation may seek for very strong yoma flesh and blood...

[Yukimura]

@Uchess: They're mostly standing around looking shocked I believe, all the strongest ones were just effortlessly slain right in front of them, so they're mostly scared shitless. Also it's easier to cheaply animate 3 people fighting than 20.

I'm starting to think that awakening is more the death of the human soul/conscience then of all self-control. I don't think Awakend Beings feel pity or remorse since they've been taken over by the Yoma. However they are still intelligent beings capable of making decisions about their behavior and considering the consequences of actions.

Priscilla seems to mess up this theory since she seemed sad while munching on that guy, however for all we know it could be that she was crying b/c the guts were cold.

[Ziggy]

I think she cried because she remembered the scene when yoma killed and ate her family instead of being sad about eating a human. But we can't say for sure why she cried, so everything is possible.

[complich8]

Yeah, I don't see awakened beings as emotionless either. Ophelia demonstrated that ... she was pretty brutal, but she was pretty emotionally devastated when she realized what she had become. Even Riful has a degree of fondness and compassion for Dauf beyond the master/servant relationship, it seems ...

[Shadowflame]

The real kick in the teeth would be if Clare awakens, beasts Rigardo and then turns on Raki, and Priscilla has to defend him, forcing Clare to forgive Priscilla once she returns to her normal frame of mind.

[shinta|hikari]

@David - How the hell can you go above 50 percent? Its not the amount of flesh you eat that gives that statistic, but the fact that you are half-youma (whole human+whole youma = half youma). Teresa is already half-youma, plus Clare's full human body, that makes her 1/4 youma. Its technically and logically impossible for a Claymore to be more than half-youma. That idea made me laugh though.

@Yuki - I still think its about self-control. The Priscilla crying scene and Ophelia disprove the loss of remorse idea. The reason why some ABs seem to have lost their conscience is because they gave in to their desire and simply dont care anymore, and even grow to enjoy it (even humans do this quite a bit).

[David75]

@David - How the hell can you go above 50 percent? Its not the amount of flesh you eat that gives that statistic, but the fact that you are half-youma (whole human+whole youma = half youma). Teresa is already half-youma, plus Clare's full human body, that makes her 1/4 youma. Its technically and logically impossible for a Claymore to be more than half-youma. That idea made me laugh though.

I know that seems crazy...

However, let's think....

Take a cute little girl, though a weakling.
Take a yoma.
Put all the flesh and blood from that yoma into the little girl. We don't care how they do this.
Result is 50% human and 50% yoma.

Now take that hybrid and another yoma.
Put all the flesh and blood from that yoma into that hybrid...
Result is 25% human, 75% yoma... Am I wrong?



I know it's a bit crazy as an idea, yet as long as you start making crazy experiments including young humans.... I guess there's no boundary anymore...

[shinta|hikari]

Haha, thats not just crazy, thats just plain stupid. Thats not what you were referring to earlier either. You used Priscilla as an example, and she was obviously human before she became a claymore (her being a claymore {half-youma} is proof enough here). Her weird behavior is similar to Ophelia's behavior when she awakened. With such a good reason out there, I dont get the point of making up such absurd explanations.

But since you changed the premise, I guess it is possible, but highly unlikely since (it is stupid and) it will result in something that cannot be controlled. Come on, half-youmas already have a high chance of going berserk since they are on the borderline of 50-50. Making a 3/4 youma like you suggested means helping the enemy. This is also the answer to your pointless question of WHY they put it at 50 percent.

Though in your crazy world of claymore, it might be possible. Heck, they even say that everything is possible (and some idiots actually believe it). That means you werent wrong with your analysis, but you werent right either.

[David75]

I'm sorry I upset you. I didn't think of the how to when I wrote that in the first place.

[shinta|hikari]

Its no problem. I just wanted to make it clear, I didnt mean to sound (well read) harsh and upset.

[Yukimura]

Has it ever been explicitly stated that half, as in 50%, of a Claymore's body is replaced with Yoma parts? From what I remember we haven't been told much about the process so it could be that they just mean not fully human not fully yoma but something in between, when they say half-human half youma.

Assuming their bodies adapt completely to the replacements and fundamentally change then their flesh would become something with power. If you then took the flesh of an adapted person and put it into a regular human then the human would have to adapt to that altered flesh, conceivably it wouldn't be as bad as adapting to something completely foreign but of course the potency of the yoma influence would likely be reduced leading to an adapted person with diluted yoma influence.

[shinta|hikari]

It was never stated, and is highly unlikely. 50 percent just means half-human and half-youma, nothing more.

[Hikyuu]

I would really like to see them create a Claymore. I feel that would clear up some misconceptions -- if there are any.

[Psyke]

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I love this song. Though the Japanese version sounds a little better to me.

[Yukimura]

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[Psyke]

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