Naruto 346

[Munsu]

Again, you're taking what I'm saying out of context. You're focusing on my choice of words for "should" instead of "must", I didn't give you a well thoughtout definition, just a quickie to get my points across, consider the context of what I'm saying.

You never flat out disagree with my argument, but you don't seem to aknowledge any of the evidence presented that suggests that Sasuke is capable and could've killed Orochimaru, or at the very least strongly suggest that the premise "Sasuke can't kill Orochimaru" is false .

So, in my opinion and apparently also of others, I've given stong evidence on why Sasuke is capable of killing Orochimaru. I've also given evidence on why Orochimaru as a common factor is flawed to make a comparison between Sasuke and Naruto, but let's ignore that opinion for now, it was just some added factors to support my points.

There's nothing wrong with my premesis. They are what they are. They are what I picked for my arguement. The conclusion naturally comes from the premesis I've chosen.

A premise of one argument is the conclusion of another. Your reasoning to make Sasuke the underdog is correct. But, you have not provided any evidence/reasoning/premises that would make your premise/conclusion of "Sasuke can't kill Orochimaru" true or strongly suggesting it is so. So if you would at least give me something that strongly suggests that "Sasuke can't kill Orochimaru" then I would at least aknowledge that there's a very strong possiblity that he's the underdog. So, to me, your premise of "Sasuke can't kill Orochimaru" is false because you haven't provided anything that would lead me to believe it, as at the moment me and most others believe that Sasuke could've killed him and can. I don't need prove, I just need strong evidence that suggest that "Sasuke can't kill Orochimaru". Don't waste time arguing how you're reasoning is inductive and what not. Provide me with an argument, a convincing one, with why you think "Sasuke can't kill Orochimaru". If you can't provide us with that, then we're just forced to believe that your premise is wrong/inaccurate and your conclusion is inaccurate based on the premises used.

In fact I really don't care about your conclusion of Sasuke being an underdog. I'm more interested on what leads you to believe that Sasuke can't kill Orochimaru.

My reasoning based on my premesis is perfectly fine.

Yep, the reasoning based on your premises is perfectly fine. I'm just waiting for your reasoning that makes you believe that the premises themselves are accurate or at least strongly suggest they are true.

Relevant to your argument, not mine. So again, irrelevant.

I think we are having a misunderstading what we mean by argument. At this particular time when I'm using argument I'm meaning the discussion and disagreement we are having, while you seem to mean that your argument is the set of premises that led to your conclusion.

You've stated multiple times that I'm wrong and my reasoning is poor.

Forget I said your reasoning is poor. Let me give you that one. Now dedicate all your energy to give me strong evidence that "Sasuke can't kill Orochimaru" and let's focus our argument on that.

If in your next post you don't focus on explaining the accuracy of your premises, I'll delete it and consider it a spam off-topic post. Tired of going around in circles about things we can't agree because I'm talking about one thing and you're talking about another and we're taking things out of context.