@ darthender
Err... that's exactly what she does >_>...
@ darthender
Err... that's exactly what she does >_>...
I find it very hard to believe that all 9 members of Akatsuki are stronger than Orochimaru. I'd guess he would be in the middle in terms of power, (this is completely guesswork) he himself said Itachi was stronger than him, but I think Itachi is probably one of the stronger members of Akatsuki. Or at least in the top half.Originally Posted by DarthEnder
I guess I always assumed because they traveled in pairs but there were 9 of them that the 9th guy was the leader. (Maybe that guy used to travel with Orochimaru) Then there was that guy who told everyone to go finish their missions in the next 2 and a half years, who I assumed to be the leader.
The animation in this episode was pretty good. But otherwise, it pretty much sucked. There were too many flashbacks. It was also pretty stupid to bring up that sasuke illusion.
1) Gaara aka "one tail" and Naruto aka "nine tails"....
It's pretty much unanymous that kyubi would be stronger than shukaku, but yes Gaara is probably much stronger than Naruto. I don't think this necessarily has anything to do with training (because well, who could train Gaara to control his sand?). This has to do with the type of seals they have for their demons. Gaara's seal grants his demon greater access to him, thus allowing for the passive defense and instinctive sand control. Naruto's demon has like, practically no access to Naruto except in times of vulnerability, whether it be extreme emotion or serious injury.
2) Strength vs Rasengan....
Under normal circumstances, you should be able to defeat an enemy just as easily with a kunai as with any of the advanced assassination jutsus, however there are circumstances where sheer power is needed. When Tsunade fought Kabuto and Oro, would her punch have been able to inflict as much damage to Kabuto as Naruto's rasengan did? The rasengan does more than just break some bones, it's like a hollow-point shell, where upon impact it expands and inflicts massive area damage throughout the enemy's body.
3) Oro's strength among Akatsuki....
I think Oro could take Kisame.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
[QUOTE=AssertnFailure]1) Gaara aka "one tail" and Naruto aka "nine tails"....
It's pretty much unanymous that kyubi would be stronger than shukaku, but yes Gaara is probably much stronger than Naruto. I don't think this necessarily has anything to do with training (because well, who could train Gaara to control his sand?). This has to do with the type of seals they have for their demons. Gaara's seal grants his demon greater access to him, thus allowing for the passive defense and instinctive sand control. Naruto's demon has like, practically no access to Naruto except in times of vulnerability, whether it be extreme emotion or serious injury.
If this is the case and the tails represent the strength, then how do they choose who gets what? Does the leader get the nine tails and it go down in rank from there? Or did they pull names from a hat? -dg-
I'm not implying that the order of power for the demons is ranked by the number of tails, its just that the nine tails is known to be the strongest of them.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Well you are implying that they are taking the stories of these creatures and using them exactly as they were told in folk tales. Which may not be the case, it may just has been a building ground for them to base the plot off of...what now biz? -dg-
Edit....Fine I do think that Nine tails is stronger than Shak....but still! MEANIE!
Last edited by iMUSTbeTHEdevil; Sat, 02-24-2007 at 10:47 PM.
Yeah, I do too. But wouldn't it be awsome if they were!
Maybe not, DarthEnder, that would make them overpowered. If Itachi is stronger than Orochimaru, then when Itachi and Kisame entered Konoha, they would have been able to kill everyone at that time except for maybe Jiraiya because when Orochimaru invaded Konoha, he needed the support of his Sound ninja to help him.
I found the episode to be quite a tease though. Nothing great happened, and those flashbacks really do prove that Naruto might be changing "nostalgic-dattebayo!" as his new phrase.
Well, that seems quite reasonable and likely. After all, if they do have a solid plan they are following, no matter how simple, then it practically needs to have originated from the mind of one person. But like has been said, these people are renegades, who left their villages, so it's not likely they would just join another "village" with strict leadership.
That makes little sense. So, if somebody is stronger than Orochimaru, he would suddenly be so strong that he could take on the whole world all by himself? Ehheh. We have seen Itachi has one of these ultimate attacks, but we have also seen he gets tired pretty fast when using it. So, in practice it means he can defeat pretty much any single or few tough opponents (including Oro), but then he's too weak to really continue and must withdraw for his own good.
Yeah. Itachi could kill just about any SINGLE character that has been introduced. But he's not geared for mass devastation, he's like the perfect assassin. You throw enough bodies at him at once, he's gonna die. The Jinchuuriki on the other hand, are walking nuclear weapons. It's the reason Orochimaru wanted Gaara to go apeshit during his attack on Konoha, one of several layers of attacks that he put together knowing that some were bound to fail. The chakra control part of Orochimaru's summons were never clearly explained. But including those, plus Manda, his own attacks, and his ability to deceive followers, he's better suited to fighting droves of people.
As damaging as Sakura's hits appear to be, remember that they utilize her limited chakra pool. How much of Naruto's chakra do you think he's utilizing for each rasengan? Sakura's attacks have a much lower damage ceiling than what the rasengan is gonna do.
I'm so happy to be looking forward to episodes again.
I don't actually right away remember any indication of how much chakra an average rasengan will consume. We saw Naruto's training results when he was trying to master the technique in time to face Tsunade in the city of the fallen castle. And it looked like he had created rasengan hundreds of times. Not like Sasuke's few chidori per day. So, I would say rasengan consumes much less chakra than a chidori. Possibly less than Sakura's monster strength. It needs to be remember rasengan is highly controlled, unlike chidori which seems very chaotic. Chaotic force will annul some of its own power by interference. Much of rasengan's effect is due to the rotational energy which we can assume will save a lot of chakra, because it means less will depend solely on the mythical chakra energy itself to affect the target.
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