Naruto: Shippuuden Episode 3

[Dark Dragon]

ok so here are the 3 technique
Chidori: require decent amount of chakra and fast moving speed(something naruto and sakura both lack) because unlike the Rasengan and Sakura Punch the Chidori is a piercing stab rather than a really powerful hit, it wouldn't be very effective if you can't execute it at an extremely high speed.
Rasengan: require a huge amount of chakra (sasuke and sakura doesn't have this) and very good chakra control in order to execute.
Sakura Punch: require perfect chakra control (sasuke and naruto can't control it that well) in order to focus chakra at the exact point in your fist.

each of them learn a technique that benefit from their strong point, saying one is useless would be pointless because not everyone has perfect chakra control, a large pool of chakra or fast moving speed.

[DarthEnderX]

Yeah, I'm a little dissapointed in how sakura's strength works. As a medical ninja it would have made sense if she was using her perfect chakra control to strenghthen her muscles instead. Doing it for just an instant for maximum strength but not so much that it damages her muscles like Lee does when he opens the gates.

[darkshadow]

@ darthender
Err... that's exactly what she does >_>...

[Narasho]

Another possibility is that Atatsuke was made of of 9 of the most powerful criminals who were determined to get tailed beasts. And that Orochimaru was the weakest person in the group.

Then Itachi shows up and Atatsuke is all, "Well, there's 10 of us now and Oro, you're the weakest, so no tailed beast for you."

I find it very hard to believe that all 9 members of Akatsuki are stronger than Orochimaru. I'd guess he would be in the middle in terms of power, (this is completely guesswork) he himself said Itachi was stronger than him, but I think Itachi is probably one of the stronger members of Akatsuki. Or at least in the top half.

Does Akatsuki have a leader? I thought it was a gathering of more or less equal people seeking a common goal (whatever it might be).

I guess I always assumed because they traveled in pairs but there were 9 of them that the 9th guy was the leader. (Maybe that guy used to travel with Orochimaru) Then there was that guy who told everyone to go finish their missions in the next 2 and a half years, who I assumed to be the leader.

[Midnight]

The animation in this episode was pretty good. But otherwise, it pretty much sucked. There were too many flashbacks. It was also pretty stupid to bring up that sasuke illusion.

[Assertn]

1) Gaara aka "one tail" and Naruto aka "nine tails"....
It's pretty much unanymous that kyubi would be stronger than shukaku, but yes Gaara is probably much stronger than Naruto. I don't think this necessarily has anything to do with training (because well, who could train Gaara to control his sand?). This has to do with the type of seals they have for their demons. Gaara's seal grants his demon greater access to him, thus allowing for the passive defense and instinctive sand control. Naruto's demon has like, practically no access to Naruto except in times of vulnerability, whether it be extreme emotion or serious injury.

2) Strength vs Rasengan....
Under normal circumstances, you should be able to defeat an enemy just as easily with a kunai as with any of the advanced assassination jutsus, however there are circumstances where sheer power is needed. When Tsunade fought Kabuto and Oro, would her punch have been able to inflict as much damage to Kabuto as Naruto's rasengan did? The rasengan does more than just break some bones, it's like a hollow-point shell, where upon impact it expands and inflicts massive area damage throughout the enemy's body.

3) Oro's strength among Akatsuki....
I think Oro could take Kisame.

[iMUSTbeTHEdevil]

[QUOTE=AssertnFailure]1) Gaara aka "one tail" and Naruto aka "nine tails"....
It's pretty much unanymous that kyubi would be stronger than shukaku, but yes Gaara is probably much stronger than Naruto. I don't think this necessarily has anything to do with training (because well, who could train Gaara to control his sand?). This has to do with the type of seals they have for their demons. Gaara's seal grants his demon greater access to him, thus allowing for the passive defense and instinctive sand control. Naruto's demon has like, practically no access to Naruto except in times of vulnerability, whether it be extreme emotion or serious injury.

If this is the case and the tails represent the strength, then how do they choose who gets what? Does the leader get the nine tails and it go down in rank from there? Or did they pull names from a hat? -dg-

[DarthEnderX]

I find it very hard to believe that all 9 members of Akatsuki are stronger than Orochimaru.

Yeah, I do too. But wouldn't it be awsome if they were!

[BananaFob]

Maybe not, DarthEnder, that would make them overpowered. If Itachi is stronger than Orochimaru, then when Itachi and Kisame entered Konoha, they would have been able to kill everyone at that time except for maybe Jiraiya because when Orochimaru invaded Konoha, he needed the support of his Sound ninja to help him.

I found the episode to be quite a tease though. Nothing great happened, and those flashbacks really do prove that Naruto might be changing "nostalgic-dattebayo!" as his new phrase.

[Kraco]

As for the leader, i also think that there is one man running akatsuki. However he's probably not a leader in a "im the guy in charge" sense like the kage's. Seems to me like hes the one who started the orginization like DB_Hunter said, and thats why the others listen to him. Its not that they're his subortnates, but rather hes the dude with the master plan, and they're following his lead for thier own benifit.

Well, that seems quite reasonable and likely. After all, if they do have a solid plan they are following, no matter how simple, then it practically needs to have originated from the mind of one person. But like has been said, these people are renegades, who left their villages, so it's not likely they would just join another "village" with strict leadership.

Maybe not, DarthEnder, that would make them overpowered. If Itachi is stronger than Orochimaru, then when Itachi and Kisame entered Konoha, they would have been able to kill everyone at that time except for maybe Jiraiya because when Orochimaru invaded Konoha, he needed the support of his Sound ninja to help him.

That makes little sense. So, if somebody is stronger than Orochimaru, he would suddenly be so strong that he could take on the whole world all by himself? Ehheh. We have seen Itachi has one of these ultimate attacks, but we have also seen he gets tired pretty fast when using it. So, in practice it means he can defeat pretty much any single or few tough opponents (including Oro), but then he's too weak to really continue and must withdraw for his own good.

[Genma]

This episode was pure garbage. It really makes me realize how much better the manga is in comparison to the anime.

The animation was terrible, the dusk shading burned my eyes, the filler parts were irritating, and a lot of the characters looked super retarded. Sakura looked like a duck and Gaara... oh jesus, I can't even describe how messed up he looks.

To top that all off, Deidara's voice actor doesn't really fit to what I expected. It should be more feminine or something, not some husky voice saying "oooh I love art." The Star Wars music is almost too funny to be true as well.

I can't take this anime seriously right now. In my opinion, they're basically just butchering a good manga and it's Rurouni Kenshin all over again -- just fifty times worse.

If you think otherwise, you either don't read the manga or you've been brainwashed by years of even shittier fillers.

Hopefully next week won't suck as bad.

[XanBcoo]

ok so here are the 3 technique
Chidori: require decent amount of chakra and fast moving speed(something naruto and sakura both lack) because unlike the Rasengan and Sakura Punch the Chidori is a piercing stab rather than a really powerful hit, it wouldn't be very effective if you can't execute it at an extremely high speed.
Rasengan: require a huge amount of chakra (sasuke and sakura doesn't have this) and very good chakra control in order to execute.
Sakura Punch: require perfect chakra control (sasuke and naruto can't control it that well) in order to focus chakra at the exact point in your fist.

each of them learn a technique that benefit from their strong point, saying one is useless would be pointless because not everyone has perfect chakra control, a large pool of chakra or fast moving speed.

Ok...but, the Chidori doesn't actually require speed in every situation. Sasuke used it on Naruto while he was standing still, and still managed to impale him. It's just as effective when used as a simple jab, or punch. Same as Rasengan or Sakura's attack. All three do the same thing.

2) Strength vs Rasengan....
Under normal circumstances, you should be able to defeat an enemy just as easily with a kunai as with any of the advanced assassination jutsus, however there are circumstances where sheer power is needed. When Tsunade fought Kabuto and Oro, would her punch have been able to inflict as much damage to Kabuto as Naruto's rasengan did? The rasengan does more than just break some bones, it's like a hollow-point shell, where upon impact it expands and inflicts massive area damage throughout the enemy's body.

I see what you're saying, but ideally shouldn't either attack be a lethal blow? I guess I'm working under the assumption that when any ninja has a good window for attack, it wouldn't really matter which attack was used, as long as it kills or incapacitates the enemy. In which case, Naruto's use of the Rasengan (in the fillers at least) seems pretty useless since he already has the chakra control needed to focus it all in his hands.

[Assassin]

Ok...but, the Chidori doesn't actually require speed in every situation. Sasuke used it on Naruto while he was standing still, and still managed to impale him. It's just as effective when used as a simple jab, or punch. Same as Rasengan or Sakura's attack. All three do the same thing.

Not true. Rock Lee explained during the garaa/sasuke fight that the chidori is just a simple stab and can be easily countered. So it doesn't work as a simple jab or a punch. You need the speed in order to quickly inflict damage on the enemy, otherwise they can just dodge or counter. This is also why the sharingan is required to properly do the chidori, so one can see the opponents move as he tried to counter and adjust accordingly.

The rasengan and sakura's super strength can be used in combination with other jutsu's or taijutsu, but the chidori can't.

As for the leader, i also think that there is one man running akatsuki. However he's probably not a leader in a "im the guy in charge" sense like the kage's. Seems to me like hes the one who started the orginization like DB_Hunter said, and thats why the others listen to him. Its not that they're his subortnates, but rather hes the dude with the master plan, and they're following his lead for thier own benifit

[Assertn]

Not true. Rock Lee explained during the garaa/sasuke fight that the chidori is just a simple stab and can be easily countered. So it doesn't work as a simple jab or a punch. You need the speed in order to quickly inflict damage on the enemy, otherwise they can just dodge or counter. This is also why the sharingan is required to properly do the chidori, so one can see the opponents move as he tried to counter and adjust accordingly.

No, lee said that the head-on dash IS what makes the chidori easy to counter.