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    Firefox Myths

    Hey guys, i just wanted you to look at this site and check it out for yourselves. I haven't had the time to read it thoroughly so i can't support it 100%, but from what i've seen, its pretty convincing. Read through it and see what you think.

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    Yea, it was kinda obvious that most of those stuff about firefox were just myth.

    Opera for the Win!

    Myth - "Firefox is the Fastest Web Browser" - Example

    Reality - Opera (now 100% Ad free) is the fastest Graphical Web Browser in Windows. - Source
    Most Secure Web Browser

    Myth - "Firefox is the Most Secure Web Browser" - Example

    Reality - Opera is currently the most Secure Graphical Web Browser in Windows. - Source
    Notes - Presto, the Opera rendering engine puts the emphasis on getting the content of a page (the text) to the user earlier than Firefox, and Opera's cache (especially the back/forward performance ) is simply faster than any other browser. - Source
    This trend is growing at an alarming rate. Before users would seek out help to clean their machines now they simply install Firefox and "think" all is well again. If these people were honestly concerned about security they would be using Opera. Actually if most people knew the real truth about all these Myths they would be using Opera for all the reasons they thought they were using Firefox.
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    Interesting. I was wondering why I never saw this on Digg until his claim at the very bottom. I got tired of constantly switching browsers so I never bothered looking into Opera. Anyone here use it? I'm a Firefox Mac user but I doubt anyone could label me as a rabid fangirl =P I never downloaded any of their plug-ins.

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    I use Opera ever since it became ad-free.
    The only thing i hate, is sometime it want to go too fast, and "skip" some picture in a page, making it either blury, or take some other random picture from the cache to replace it. solution : refresh the page.
    I also tried firefox.. for 5 minutes.. didn't like it.

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    I'd use Opera in a heartbeat, it's a great browser, if only I didn't despise the way it cycles through tabs as you close them.

    Go to a site like digg and open a number of articles, each as a new tab. Read a story, close the tab. Where does it take you? Back to the main page of digg that you picked all the articles from. Do I want to see that again? I want them to move to the right, like flipping a page, reading them in the order I opened them in. I do not want to see the same page I chose the articles from 6 times before I switch to the next subcategory in digg.

    This isn't how FF works, it isn't how IE7 works, and there's no way to fix it.

    I'll take all the rest of FF's faults as long as it uses tabs in a logical manner. I've been against IE for so long, that maybe I'll have to consider using it again with 7.

    Though, I've got all 3 installed on my computer, so I can just use whichever one strikes me at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu
    I'd use Opera in a heartbeat, it's a great browser, if only I didn't despise the way it cycles through tabs as you close them.

    Go to a site like digg and open a number of articles, each as a new tab. Read a story, close the tab. Where does it take you? Back to the main page of digg that you picked all the articles from. Do I want to see that again? I want them to move to the right, like flipping a page, reading them in the order I opened them in. I do not want to see the same page I chose the articles from 6 times before I switch to the next subcategory in digg.

    This isn't how FF works, it isn't how IE7 works, and there's no way to fix it.

    I'll take all the rest of FF's faults as long as it uses tabs in a logical manner. I've been against IE for so long, that maybe I'll have to consider using it again with 7.

    Though, I've got all 3 installed on my computer, so I can just use whichever one strikes me at the moment.
    When closing a Tab, opera goes back to the last OPEN page.
    If you just close the main page, it won't go back on it.


    It's not That annoying.

    And you can just do, click and hold Right button on the mouse and scroll up/down with the wheel to change page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BioAlien
    When closing a Tab, opera goes back to the last OPEN page.
    If you just close the main page, it won't go back on it.
    It's not That annoying.
    And you can just do, click on hold Right button on the mouse and scroll up/down with the wheel to change page.
    That's kinda the whole point. I don't want to see the last open page, I want to see the page I haven't seen yet. It's really annoying to keep seeing the same directory page over and over.

    The point is that I shouldn't have to do anything special to get to the next tab. It should close an old one and move on. I could cycle through them with Shift+Tab too, but the point is that I should not have to.

    A lot of the problems with FF are easily fixable with add-ons. Sure, that may slow it down even further, make it drain more resources, but I can deal with those for the trade-offs I'm getting from the add-on itself. Opera is closed source, and is not alterable. The tabs issue may not be important to you, but I find it to be a large enough fault with Opera that it shadows all the good features of Opera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu
    if only I didn't despise the way it cycles through tabs as you close them.
    isn't that the biggest pain in the ass?

    i also use Opera, but I keep IE (the latest version of which has tab browsing) and Firefox on my computer as well.

    somehow reading those myths reminded me of those crappy, holier-than-thou Mac commercials trouncing the PC...

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    I stick to firefox because of adblock. I like having the power to regex-match and strip out whole structural components of webpages. I haven't seen an ad in months, except in safari.

    I would use opera (and acknowledge that it's better than firefox in a lot of ways), but there's about half a dozen UI quirks that I really really hate about it, with fixes ranging from a couple minutes (finding the right option in the prefs) to a couple hours (finding the js widget that changes the behavior to what I want it to do) to unfixable (the general feel of the ui, the tab ordering).

    What's interesting, though, is that firefox is slowly trying to adopt some of those quirks that I hate -- like close buttons on the tabs instead of a single fixed close button by default.

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    I used Opera maybe...6 years ago? That was when I first saw tab browsing. However I had a really crappy computer and crappy connection and it just didn't seem like a huge improvement over IE. I haven't tried Opera since.

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    I use firefox. I used Opera but i am more comfortable with Firefox and having 3 browsers were too much (IE default and used mostly for updates or IE only stuff).


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