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    It would appear to me that Naruto and Naruto:Shippuuden are two different series, like DB and DBZ. So IMO it should not be thought that it is licensed right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Skill
    Even if Naruto were to damage himself in a fight using Kyuubi's chakra, it wouldnt matter, as the past episodes have proven, the power of Kyuubi gives Naruto instant healing, I believe even when he's not in Kyuubi mode, At the very beginning when they left Konoha and they got attacked by those 2 Ninja that used poison Kunai or something. Naruto got hit and kakashi was worried the poison would kill him. After the antidote and everything, kakashi saw his wound and noticed it was already healing quite fast.

    Fight with Haku, all his wounds healed. Fight with Neji, I think there too. The fight with Gaara as well and most noticable in the Sasuke fight before Sasuke ran away. Instant healing. So even if Naruto does go berserk, it wouldnt matter if he was damaged. :/

    Well... Kyuubi can supposedly cause tidal waves and mountains to crumble from one wag/whip of his tail... so I am assuming, Kyuubi's real power has not even been seen yet. From the looks of it, Naruto seems to be more in control the more he uses Kyuubi's chakra, that's just my take on it though. :/
    But you have to take into consideration the long term effects of constant damage and then healing could cause. If not physical, you've gotta wonder if his mind can take the pain of all of the Kyuubi's chakra forcing out of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB_Hunter
    It would appear to me that Naruto and Naruto:Shippuuden are two different series, like DB and DBZ. So IMO it should not be thought that it is licensed right now.
    Naruto Shippuden is licensed. Because it is not a sequel, but rather a continuation of the same series (just with a brand spanking new name!), then Viz should have the rights to it.

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    Is that the official line or your reasoning?

    The reason I ask is that it seems to be a bit of a technicality deciding if it is a continuation or a new series. Afterall, DBZ did continue the story line from DB and developed it further.

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    Sakura's skirt seems longer here....

    A.n.y.w.a.y. Good start even though it was just really showing the old characters and how they have grown the past two years. After not watching Naruto ever since the fillers started, it really did start to interest me again.

    Couple of funny scenes and we get some action next episode...more please.

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    That's reasonable Chouonosoku, the mental fatigue would probably be devastating.

    I guess you're right Xanbcoo.

    One would think it would not be, considering it's under a different name now. :/

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    OMFG

    I think i sh*t myself.

    This episode was AMAZING. Especially if you haven't watched the show for a long time, coming back to all the places where they were so long ago, idk it was really emotional to me. like A LOT. I just love it when people in series and games and things like get older and then revisit the places where they grew it, it just feels so "nostalgic" lol.

    Idk why you guys didn't like that teaser in the beginning, i've seen it in many other places and I like it. For a moment in the beginning i thought belly shirt was sasuke. How did sasuke turn so evil though =/ he was so innocent back in iruka's class.

    I don't like how some people turned into jounin in only 2 years, especially the ones who did. It's hard to believe that newly jounin temari could take on kiba/shino/hinata's sensei (forget her name). Also, Kankuroh became jounin but shino did not?? Also, I don't like how kakashi has to get serious with people he could take on while reading a book just 2 years ago. What has he been doing all this time?? He is supposed to be one of the strongest jounin in the village.

    I also don't understand how you can take the chuunin exam when you don't have a full squad of 3? Anyone know?

    Other than that, awesome episode. For the past couple weeks i thought bleach was my favorite anime and i started to think "was naruto really even that good" after seeing new non-filler bleach. But now im like, holy sh*t, bleach does not raise a finger to this orgasmic series.

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    I believe Asuma and Kakashi are "elite jounin"....which is much higher than jounin.
    Kurenai however might just be a regular jounin. I could see her having trouble against the sand trio or neji......

    Don't forget how well those guys fared against the sound 4's ultimate forms, even considering how two elite jounin failed against the 4 sound.

    Good points about how shino should be a jounin and needing a team of 3 for the chuunin exams
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    Quote Originally Posted by DB_Hunter
    Is that the official line or your reasoning?

    The reason I ask is that it seems to be a bit of a technicality deciding if it is a continuation or a new series. Afterall, DBZ did continue the story line from DB and developed it further.
    My reasoning. After checking, it seems that ANN has it as a "sequel" even though there was no break whatsoever from the Naruto airing schedule.

    But even if it is a "different" series and not yet licensed, I'd say it's as good as such. Companies usually buy the rights to shows in chunks. Once Viz "buys" the rest of Naruto's episodes, they will buy Shippuden sooner or later. I dunno why it's even worth talking about though. Neither fansub group takes the licensing status of the series into account anyway.

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    It seems pretty obvious to me that the more of the Kyuubi's power Naruto uses, the closer it comes to breaking free. If Naruto ever tries to use all of Kyuubi's power, it's will break free. Weather Naruto survives that or not is probably moot because if Kyuubi ever get's free he'll kill him either way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vegechan
    I mean, based on what was said in the first episode alone, we now know what was locked inside Gaara is the same type of creature Naruto has inside him. And look what happened when Gaara lost himself in the the power. It was at the point where he wasn't even the one controlling it anymore, and it was more or less using him as an avatar so to speak.
    One thing you have to keep in mind though is that, even though Naruto and Gaara are both bound to Tailed beasts, the method used for each of them is completely different. In Naruto's seal, the Kyuubi seems to spend most of it's time asleep inside him. It only effects Naruto when his rage overwhelms him, or he suffers a fatal injury. Other times it mostly leaves him in peace. Gaara's seal, on the other hand, is a constant torment for him. He can't even sleep without losing control of Shukaku. It's pretty obvious that the 4th's method is alot better for the host than the Sand's method is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chouonsoku
    But you have to take into consideration the long term effects of constant damage and then healing could cause.
    If it's anything like every other anime, recovering from being fucked up only makes you more powerful.

    Quote Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
    Would you say, that when Naruto hit the next level of the transformation vs Sasuke in the chase arc, that he had control of the demon power?
    I'd say at first, yes, up until Sasuke broke his neck. But once Kyuubi revived him and surrounded him in that cloud of red chakra he didn't seem to have any control anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
    Good points about how shino should be a jounin and needing a team of 3 for the chuunin exams
    If that's the case though then how did Sakura become a Chuunin?


    The thing about Temari and Kankuro that you have to remember is that it's the Sand village that made them Jounin, not the Leaf. And the thing you have to remember about the sand village is...everybody who's any good in it is dead. Temari and Kankuro are probably Sand jounin because they are more powerful than 90% of the ninjas in their village, not because they're more powerful than, say, Shikamaru or Shino. Konoha on the other hand still has a ton of really powerful ninjas, so by comparison, someone like Shino may not be considered in the elite class of his village.

    It's all relative to their village. I mean, they made Gaara Kazekage. Does that mean Gaara can beat Kakashi? After all, Kakashi is only a Jounin, and Gaara is a Kage.

    Whereas Neji I have no problem with being a Jounin. He's from a noble family with a bloodline limit, and a genius besides. And with Naruto and Sasuke gone, he's the most powerful of the remaining original genins. He would most likely have been a chunin in the first exam if he hadn't got his ass beat by Naruto.
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    Man, two years of fillers you guys say? I haven't the slightest clue of whatchootalkinbout :-P. But yeah, that episode was something fantastic, and mind you, not even a single combat scene. As you guys mentioned, the atmosphere is different then before. I'm especially pleased with the music. I didn't think one could improve much on best stuff of the first series, or even match it. While I don't think they improved, they did match it in quality, particularly with the music that was playing during the showoff between Naruto, Sakura and Kakashi...so grand it got right to pit of my stomach! I'm gonna stop reading the manga at this point, which is great, because the manga pretty much just finished an arc and I'm not leaving in the middle of a cliffhanger :-).

    About the nine-tails, I wonder how that's going to be handled. Assuming that "Naruto" isn't the "series that doesn't eeeeeeeennnnnnnnd..." they're going to have to bring some kind of closure to this demon fox. I'm thinking Naruto is going to have to be without it, either by willingly getting rid of it somehow, or having the seal broken and the fox gaining control, or some other means. I'm hoping its something involving Negative effects of the kyuubi on Naruto causing him to have to get rid of it, and then fighting it, not necessarily alone.

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    The sand village was always about quality over quantity. Kankuro and Temari were definitely among the top ranking of the participants of the chuunin exam before.
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    Kakashi can prolly beat gaara, i think it was stated somewhere ( a databook perhaps), that kakashi is the strongest jounin of konoha.
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    dam I actually thought they were gonna stick with the manga and start No Spoilers right off the bat. But They did a now and then type of thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles
    About the nine-tails, I wonder how that's going to be handled. Assuming that "Naruto" isn't the "series that doesn't eeeeeeeennnnnnnnd..." they're going to have to bring some kind of closure to this demon fox. I'm thinking Naruto is going to have to be without it, either by willingly getting rid of it somehow, or having the seal broken and the fox gaining control, or some other means. I'm hoping its something involving Negative effects of the kyuubi on Naruto causing him to have to get rid of it, and then fighting it, not necessarily alone.
    Naruto will fight the Kyuubi inside his mind at the end of the series. He wins and becomes Hokage.

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    That..........................would suck...

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    What? Kakashi is the strongest Jounin in Konoha? That sucks for the leaf village then. I mean I he's all kinds of tough but he's full of weak points. His primary skills are major chakra hogs so if he doesn't finish quickly he's pretty much screwed. He's already admitted that he couldn't even touch Oro at the cost of his own life and Oro is afraid of Itachi, and possibly other Akatsuki members as well. If Kakashi is the best they've got they don't stand much of a chance against Akatsuki in a slug fest if something happens to Tsunade and Jiraya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukimura
    What? Kakashi is the strongest Jounin in Konoha? That sucks for the leaf village then. I mean I he's all kinds of tough but he's full of weak points. His primary skills are major chakra hogs so if he doesn't finish quickly he's pretty much screwed. He's already admitted that he couldn't even touch Oro at the cost of his own life and Oro is afraid of Itachi, and possibly other Akatsuki members as well. If Kakashi is the best they've got they don't stand much of a chance against Akatsuki in a slug fest if something happens to Tsunade and Jiraya.
    There's also Gai. I'd have to agree that he and Kakashi are probably the strongest Jounin we've seen yet.

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    i dont think kakashi is the strongest jounin, but definately the most dangerous. but thats all due to his sharingan and its insane abilities. In terms of strength, theres lots of other jounins that are on the same level, such as gai or asuma, or the anbu captains....though out of all of them kakashi might still be just borderline better.

    Not counting his sharingan hes most likely on eqal footing with some of the others. but with it he has a distinct advantage, though only temporarily.

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    I'm not so sure about Gai because we haven't seen much of his skill set, but I guess we can extrapolate from what we've seen Rock Lee do. Kakashi though, I think he has the power to join Akatsuki if he wanted to. I'd be money that he could take kisame in a fight. That sharingan is nothing to scoff at. Besides the sharingan, Kakashi just has this aura of lowdown, no good, lying, dirty bastard about him. Makes no difference to him if he stabs you in the back, the front, the face, while you're awake, asleep, whatever. There's not that many characters that come across like that, and probably none to that level.

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