DS Lite or PSP; what would you get and why?

[UChessmaster]

D) Think paycheck to paycheck. I don't think, "I earned $8000 so far this year," I think, "Hmm, $200."
I can put down $200 for a DS Lite and two games. Or using Chaoskiddo's math, $270 for 1 game and a memory stick. You can really tell me that when you buy another game 2 months (and 4 paychecks) later, you're thinking...$270 + $30 vs $200 + $35? It's more likely you think, $35 or $30.

This is how i see it, amount spended on psp, 250$, amount of games i own over 20 (thousands if you count emulation)

How much do you need to get a ds and at least 20 games?

A question about the iso's then [non-threatening tone, well, debating tone]. If you have to ensure that it's an older PSP, doesn't that remove the entire homebrew advantage from the equation of which one is better? When it loses the capability for that expandibility, doesn't it come down to purely price compared to the games?

yes and no, even though having a non-homebrew available psp (2.81 and higher) is bad, programs to "downgrade" your psp are always in development, when i bought my psp i had a 2.5 ta-082 psp, a year ago ppl would tell me "youre screwed" but now that is not the case at all so... in a future is almost guaranteed that you will be able to use homebrew, but, if you can get an older psp then go for it

[Kensee]

Hrmm.. haha thanks guys, this is helping a lot. The ROM idea for the psp sounded intersting but I would like to upgrade my system to the newest, which rules that out . I'ma go make a list of games and see how it goes.

yes and no, even though having a non-homebrew available psp (2.81 and higher) is bad, programs to "downgrade" your psp are always in development, when i bought my psp i had a 2.5 ta-082 psp, a year ago ppl would tell me "youre screwed" but now that is not the case at all so... in a future is almost guaranteed that you will be able to use homebrew, but, if you can get an older psp then go for it

Yeah upgrading so far isn't bad. Sony is developing an emulator for psp which will allow the playing of ps1 games on the psp, it was released with information about the ps3.

[UChessmaster]

A) you can upgrade to the latest firmware and still have acces to all homebrew o.0

B) the emulator is out already, what do you think we use to play psx games?

[Ryllharu]

This is how i see it, amount spended on psp, 250$, amount of games i own over 20 (thousands if you count emulation)

How much do you need to get a ds and at least 20 games?

complich8 already handled this I thought.
Groundrules: No cheating with homebrew for either handheld. Purchased games. Bestbuy average prices per game: PSP $35, DS: $35

Using your most recent method:
PSP $200
DS $130
20 games for either at average price: $700

The ability to save those 20 games will add $50 to the PSP.

[kAi]

I've got a PSP, but I got it for half price when it first came out here, with two 512MB memory sticks. I thought that was an awesome buy, $200AUD

Although, I don't really play it at all.

[KitKat]

Well, since the question is phrased, "What system would you get?", you meaning me in this post, then I'd say hands down the DS. I love the variety and scope of the games available for this system. In particular, I was addicted to Animal Crossing for a while when I had a housemate with a gamecube, and the idea of having Animal Crossing in my pocket is quite tempting. The other game that I found particularly fascinating was one called Electroplankton. I found it pretty amazing that the game not only generated music, but responded to sounds from outside the game as well. Super neat idea. I suppose I'm a bit biased since I've lived with people who owned DS', but never known anyone with a PSP (well, I probably have, but they've never brought it over to me to play). In my mind, the PSP would be a gamble, but I know that for sure I'd love the DS, so there's no reason to take the risk.

[NM]

In my mind, the PSP would be a gamble, but I know that for sure I'd love the DS, so there's no reason to take the risk.

I would have to agree with Kat on this one, if you buy the DS your going to have a great time. I too was pondering what handheld would be a good buy but I was having trouble deciding. PSP has MGS Portable Ops & FF7 Crisis Core that I would love to play to see those storylines but the games on the DS are just so damn fun. My cousin has the DS and I've been playing Sonic Rush and Mario Kart online every single time I go to his house. You can't go wrong with the DS, there's no question about that. And if your a Square-Enix whore like I am, they do have games for the DS like Mario Hoops 3 on 3 and the upcoming FF12 Revenant Wings.

I usually choose a system based on the game library and the DS seems to be the winner for me. As much as I want to play Portable Ops or Crisis Core, it wouldn't really justify getting the PSP just for only those two games. Not to mention the memory sticks you need for it whereas the DS has none, saving you money.

[Assertn]

2) you speak as an obvious nintendo fan.

Lolz....taking the "best defense is a good offense" tactic like a good sony fanboy. This seems to be a favorite technique of chaoskiddo's.

Since I know I can't mention anything about consoles without a slew of resources, here's one that might be of use:
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager....=0&cId=3148983

It seems the DS is seriously kicking PSP's ass in the japanese market, but the two are pretty close in the US. Apparently this is mostly attributed to the PSP's appeal to many of the western developers that are aiming at the older target audience (GTA etc)

Also, the good folks at somethingawful.com had recently exposed a viral marketing campaign funded by Sony to promote the PSP:
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/ar...consumers.html
For shame, sony!

[BioAlien]

DS, because i don't like the cheap crap from sony, why would you watch movies on a small PSP screen, when you got a 52" HD TV...plus, the game on psp simply suck compared to DS(at least, those i tried)
sure psp got "better" graphic, but if the game suck, the graphic don't matter.

[Lucifus]

Damn you all who claim the Lite can even compete with the PSP.

I could never be happier with my PSP. But, unless you get at least a 4 GB memory stick with it, its pointless ot get it, but if you do....Ohhh boy.

GBA, PS1, Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, well, basically almost everything except PS2 and XBOX games. Extremly good quality videos and movies for the Beautiful PSP screen. Wonderful quality music. Pretty decent on the go internet, aim, msn, news, whatever you want. Beautiful photos on the giant psp screen. And all the awesome psp games to go along with it.

PSP homebrew- Stream videos, music directly from your home computer, you don't even need to carry it on your memory stick. GPS, emulators, Calculators, OpenOffice, classic games, EBooks.
RSS Channels
Not to mention DevHook- Store as many psp games as you want on your Memory Stick and switch between them instantly. Play music while playing games, put your PSP on hold. Best portable device out there other than a 1200$+ notebook.

Damn all to hell that do not acknowledge the greatest than can be a cracked PSP. 1.50 firmware for the win!

www.psp-hacks.com The DS-Lite doesn't even have a quarter of the features or functions the PSP is capable of. But only if your willing to put some extra bucks into it.

PSP system. Earbuds. Decent strap on case for movie, and a bunch of screen guards. One PSP game and then just "acquire" the rest of the stuff you need from the net.

PSP for the win!

Here me though. Without at least a 4gb, the PSP is worthless, and if you don't crack it, throw it into the fing Garbage can. If you don't plan on crcking it, itss completly useless, Sonys been throwing out firmware after firmware in an attempt to, hell I don't know, "keep their producct crappy"? If they would let people know the potential of a PSP there would be so many more around.

Currently on my PSP.

Games:
Mortal Kombat-Unchained, Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops, Loco Roco, DBZ-Shin Budokai, Monster Hunter Freedom and the UMD Store-bought Tekken Dark Ressurection.

Music:
About 500 mbs of all kinds of music and I most definatly don't need more. Love the clarity though the wallmart earbuds I got.

Videos: Eurotrip converted to PSP format. Any video onto your PSP through the net.

Homebrew- GPS, DevHook, PSPOffice, Xm80 Cal, PSPPersonalize, Bookmarks and stuff for aim and stuff like that,GBA emu, N64 Emu, Nin Emu, SuperNin Emu, and a bunch of old classic system emulators.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Old classic Mario games, All the good stuff, any Roms you can get your hands on can be emulated. PSP FOR THE WIN!

[fahoumh]

I picked up a DS Lite a few months ago and it's great. Warioware Touched is easily one of my favourite games and Brain Age is pretty addictive. Trace Memory was a pretty good game. I got Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney for Christmas and my sister says she's liking it...I still have to try it out.

EDIT: So even though I voted for the DS Lite because I like mine, I really can't recommend one over the other because I haven't spent as much time with a PSP. I guess it boils down to personal preference. I've been a Nintendo fanboy for more than 20 years so I'll always lean towards their products.

[ChaosK]

Here me though. Without at least a 4gb, the PSP is worthless, and if you don't crack it, throw it into the fing Garbage can. If you don't plan on crcking it, itss completly useless, Sonys been throwing out firmware after firmware in an attempt to, hell I don't know, "keep their producct crappy"? If they would let people know the potential of a PSP there would be so many more around.

I agree with you except I believe a 2gb memory stick is suffice. But that's coming from a person who already owns an ipod for music needs and other "storage". Basically all I place on my PSP are games (including emulated games) and some of my favorite episodes of shows, or if i know i'm in for a boring day, i convert a new episode of anime to watch on the go.

I forgot to mention before, as Lucifus put it, don't get the PSP if you don't plan on cracking it and doing all the shit we have to make it great.

[Assertn]

Here me though. Without at least a 4gb, the PSP is worthless, and if you don't crack it, throw it into the fing Garbage can. If you don't plan on crcking it, itss completly useless, Sonys been throwing out firmware after firmware in an attempt to, hell I don't know, "keep their producct crappy"? If they would let people know the potential of a PSP there would be so many more around.

Ah so basically, the PSP is the portable version of the old Xbox?

Does sound enticing but, like you said, best out there other than a $1200+ notebook.

[RedX1z]

no pun intended for the opposing side, but here goes. i'm going with the ds lite on this one.

i got the psp when it first came out, but i've got bored of it after a few short weeks. basically, as much as i loved emulating games and things like that, it wasn't worth it, because most of the emulated games were things i already played and nothing really new, and if worst came to worst, i'd just play most of it on the computer. later on, one thing led to another and it was just laying around somewhere collecting dust. basically, i felt it was lacking a lot for a handheld gaming system. here's how i felt about their games, it wasn't as fun as i thought it'd be. ports and remakes just don't cut it for me nowadays, maverick hunter x is no exception.

a few months later, i saw everyone playing their mariokart on their ds, it actually looked somewhat fun. the next thing you know, i was playing mariokart on the ds. it wasn't bad, it was the first time i had fun in those months that passed by, aside from the ps2 and gamecube. later on, i got the ds, just so, i can join those people in their games of mariokart and other things. the games i got later on were enjoyable as well. up to this day, i don't regret ever getting the ds/lite. that's where 80% of my gaming time goes. the library back then wasn't as impressive at it is today, so i think that i made the right choice.

no regrets.

i believe the psp had many chances to surpass the ds in every way, but i believe it failed to do so. the touch screen on the ds added limitless possibilities to the production of gaming. the multiplayer and online play turned out to be something pretty good. the library for the ds is no joke. i underestimated the ds every way possible. regardless, i still believe the psp still has the potential to turn the tables around, and start getting better games for it.

the games i enjoy most nowadays are viewtiful joe: double trouble, mega man zx, elite beat agents, castlevania: portrait of ruin, trauma center: under the knife, and many more. after getting the ds lite, learned to not underestimate the little things.

the games i'm waiting for are it's a wonderful world, final fantasy 12: r-wings, final fantasy tactics for the ds, zelda: phantom hourglass, and many more.

[Thi3f]

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[FrogKing]

Hmm, i have been following this thread and am still back and forth on which to get. Does anybody know when DS Lite will be support an internet browser in the US? I am taking a trip next month and would like to take it with me for entertainment purposes and to be able to check emails and such w/o my lappy. Thanks.

[Spiegel]

I chose the PSP because I like it better from what I have seen with my friends getting them. The PSP has more options and I just like it better in general. That may be a completely Bias opinion.

[Aeon]

I'm choosing the PSP even though I don't own one(Play my friends) and own a DSL. Outside of Megaman ZX, Mario Kart and Yugioh Spirit Caller I haven't been able to find anything else to keep my attention and that includes Final Fantasy III(Reason I bought the darn thing).

[Apraxhren]

Hmm, i have been following this thread and am still back and forth on which to get. Does anybody know when DS Lite will be support an internet browser in the US? I am taking a trip next month and would like to take it with me for entertainment purposes and to be able to check emails and such w/o my lappy. Thanks.

It has been released in Asia and Europe also in a few hours Australia will have it but for some unknown reason to the world there is no scheduled release for North America. You can however get an English version from Europe for about $50 with shipping.

I bought a DS lite because of the touch screen and the games, they just appealed to me. I'm just probably a Nintendo "fanboy" though.

[FrogKing]

Thanks Apraxhren. I did some research and found that the japanese and european versions can be found and will work. I think i'll wait to see if some Australian versions hit our market on the 18th and if not i'll spring for a japanese version.