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    Saddam Dies

    As you all probably know Saddam died today.
    http://www.nbc5.com/news/10629421/de...s=chi&psp=news

    Justice? Discuss.

    In my opinion it isn't, if the iraqi people had overthrown him then it would be ok to kill the guy. But now it just feels wrong. And there is no country with dictatorship who doesn't use brute force against there oponents. Why not get all those people on a trial and kill them.

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    I voted Justice.

    I really don't have much of an opinion on the war since i am not a part of ether country, but. He did kill the Kurds and what not. Maybe his method of capture and trial were distasteful but w/e.

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    Today or last night?

    I'm sure I heard it on the news. It seems like they are keeping this on the down low for some reason.

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    Well, if most of the Iraqi people think this was the way to go, who am I to object? I've never lived under brutal, violent oppression nor had my friends and relatives wiped out, so I could never claim to be able to imagine how great many citizens over there felt.

    Saddam was beyond doubt guilty of great many severe things, there's no question of that. If his own people deemed the offences grave enough to execute him, then it was justice by their standards. For my own part I don't really support death penalties, but that's only how I feel it should be in the EU. Other places must live according to their own traditional and established ideals.

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    Justice, about time that ass of a man die.

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    nothing "discrase"ful about it. the world's better off without his crazy ass.

    and the execution was done early in the morning, Iraq time. One cited reason for the exact time being kept "on the down low" was to avoid any insurgent/terrorist action being orchestrated in protest. If nobody knows when it is, nobody'll show up to protest.

    and turkish, how is it not just simply because an outside force had to intervene? That's like saying police separating an abusive father from his children is wrong because the police aren't part of the family.

    regardless of who brought him down, he deserved to die. so as far as i'm concerned, it's a step in the right direction to hang the bastard.

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    Justice....

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    Quote Originally Posted by masamuneehs
    and turkish, how is it not just simply because an outside force had to intervene? That's like saying police separating an abusive father from his children is wrong because the police aren't part of the family.
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    I think thats a wrong metafor since the US ain't the world's police.
    I also think it's Justice but like i said it just feels wrong. Why let him stay leader all this time why not intervene right after (or before) he gassed the kurds or all the other horrible things he did.
    It's like capturing the father while his children are dead.

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    Justice without a doubt. I really hope no one in here thinks it is a disgrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish-S
    I think thats a wrong metafor since the US ain't the world's police.
    I also think it's Justice but like i said it just feels wrong. Why let him stay leader all this time why not intervene right after (or before) he gassed the kurds or all the other horrible things he did.
    It's like capturing the father while his children are dead.
    Alas, they are indeed different things: A troubled household and a troubled country. One does not simply walk into Iraq. It's crumbling gates are guarded by more than just death squads. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the bearded eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland riddled with riffle fire, sand (it's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere), and dust, the very air you breathe is poisonous gas. Not with ten thousand could you do this. It is folly.

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    You forgot the "I don't care" option.

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    Justice but I don't like the method of execution.

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    Justice hands down for me......
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    Justice without a doubt.

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    No matter what country you belong to, no matter what your beliefs on the death penalty are, the world is better place without that man in it. What he did warrants what he got, he killed so many, with such reckless abandon, it is fitting that his judgment was to be death. As people before me have stated- the Iraqi people are the ones who voted for his hanging, and they are the ones who know firsthand the horrors he brought upon the world.... The issue here is not the timing of it. That is a separate issue, and one the world needs to ask itself. Why did they stand idly by when these events transpired? I for one, do not know enough about the "world politics", as these were most surely a factor, of that time, and in order to have clear standpoint on that issue I feel that is needed. In any case, I voted Justice.

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    I voted disgrace.

    No matter what he did, no one deserves to be hang. They should have put him in prison. Yes, I know that he did many horrible thing, but he would suffer more being in prison and dying. Getting hanged, you suffer few minutes maximum, but being in prison for the next 10 years you suffer more and you think about the bad stuffs that you did. Plus, this hanging would just the situation in Iraq worse than it is actually.

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    As I see it if he had not right to kill anyone, anyone had the right to kill him. I dont believe in hell so for me they just released him from a lot of pain he should have suffered in prison. Anyway about the 90% of the world primer ministers, presidents, war ciefs have done the same thing (some even worse) and I wont live to see them pay for it so talking about justice just makes me feel sad.

    It was their decision, imo they chose the wrong one.
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    Justice. We've just gotten rid of one less monster in the world. He has done great injustice to Iraq and his neighbours like Kuwait.

    The Sadam Loyalist right now would be fighting a lost cause. But like Saddam said, probably jokingly before he died, "Muqtada Al Sadr". I think we've just traded in one monster for another.

    At least we won't hear of a story of "Saddam escapes from jail".That would be even more embarrassing.
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    His sentence was definately a just one. In accordance to islamic law, the penalty for all his crimes would've been death as well so no one can say this was unjust. However, the method and time of death dont sit too well with me.

    First, his execution was carried out during the Hajj pilgrimage, and if im not mistaken on the day of Eid which is an affront to muslims. I dont know why the court/judge or whoever was incharge of the trials chose this date, but it definately wasn't a coincidence. The date could have easily been moved forward or back a few days.

    Secondly, why was he hanged. Im not familiar with the procedures of other "civilized" countries, but in the states aren't death row inmates given a lethal injection (i dont think they even use the chair anymore, but i could be wrong)? With all the fuss about human rights violations during his regime and stuff, they still decide to hang him which i find ironic.

    Some intresting tidbits: i heard on the news that he was the first dictator/political leader to be hung since like ww2 or some such. Im no history buff, but i can't recall any war criminals getting the noose since nuremberg.

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    I would definatly say justice, but I was hoping he would get sent to prison to suffer more though......or maybe have all the families that were victim to his cruelty beat him slowly to death? I think the only regret here is that the death wasn't painful enough . But also, shouldn't certain U.S. officials be punished as well by the standards that we punished Sadam? Its not like we didn't do horrible things...We nuked Japan twice and used Agent Orange in the Vietnam war which affected many lives and still does today.....

    I guess you can say we were justified in doing so because it was in wartime, but still....We hurt many innocent people we didnt have to (Vietnam). Also, We used the nukes just to save our soldiers lives, so in that we were pretty much saying our soldiers are worth more than innocent japanese lives.

    What I'm trying to say is, perhaps our government doesn't have the right to kill Sadam acting as a world police especially when we havent been so rightous in the past.I definatly don't see the U.S. as the good guys, especially since we were the ones who gave him so many weapons. Im not so sure it was worth it to go into Iraq just to kill one man......But I am happy that Sadam is dead, he definatly deserved it

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