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    Quote Originally Posted by conquistaDan

    The thing I don't understand is this:
    Why does Kishi have Shika, and Hidan playing cat and mouse over and over?I mean after a while(hopefully this last chapter)one of them will finally get caught and be done for,I'm guessing Hidan.
    Kishi is not intending this to be "cat and mouse". Kishi let Hidan escape the first time so he could setup the revenge factor for Shikamaru. Also, the "king" piece still has to be revealed. This second time Shika was losing chakra because his endurance isn't as good as Naruto, plus Kishi wanted to place importance on Kakuzu's real ability.

    Who knows what will come of this time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jing
    I don't really think you need to know how to control 2 elements... You're born with them aren't you? Just like Naruto is with wind.

    If you are right, then all the chunnins like Rock Lee can just pack their bags and go home.
    well they probably make a few exceptions


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    The thing I don't understand is this:
    Why does Kishi have Shika, and Hidan playing cat and mouse over and over?I mean after a while(hopefully this last chapter)one of them will finally get caught and be done for,I'm guessing Hidan.
    its symbolic. shikamarus avenging his dead sensei. all this talk about him fulfilling his role and stuff... possibly to foretell sasuke's avenging of his clan.

    but thats only my guess. either way, i only think it proper that shikamaru be the one to finally make sure hidan doesnt get back up.


    or perhaps he can sever his head and mount it over his fireplace.

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    I don't think we are gonna see anyone die just yet, at least not until naruto comes. I also truely doubt none of the main stays like shika are gonna die, especially when he is becomeing such a fan favorite in this ark alone.

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    or perhaps he can sever his head and mount it over his fireplace.
    That'd be cool! Having a talking head mounted on your wall! You just have to stick an apple in his mouth when you want him to shut up.

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    I've only seen Shikamaru use 1 element.. couldn't that be why he's not a jounin yet?

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    and that element would be....

    shadow isnt considered an element and i havent seen him using any of the other 5

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    I don't care if Kakashi said it takes knowing 2 elements... Shikamaru will be a Jounin soon because he can fight more or less equally with Akatsuki.

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    No, "Shadow" itself is not a traditional element, per say. But, in the ninja world it would have to fall under some type of affinity, if not a combination of two, like many others.

    You also forget that Kishi just introduced the elements a few chapters ago, and is basically pulling this stuff out of his ass as he goes.

    Kankurou is a Jounin, but we have only seen him use puppets. Are puppets an element? We have only seen Temari use wind so far, and Neji... who knows what element Byakuugan is using, but we haven't seen two from him either.

    Kishi is making this stuff up, and at times contradicting himself. So don't be surprised if he decides that Shadow is a combination of two elements, just for the purpose of promoting Shika.

    Another thing to keep in mind is the translation. Things always translate differently depending on who you ask. That particular translation above says two elements are required to be a jounin. But you might find another who translates it more along the lines of "Only jounin level ninjas have two elements" and not necessarily saying its a requirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne
    No, "Shadow" itself is not a traditional element, per say. But, in the ninja world it would have to fall under some type of affinity, if not a combination of two, like many others.

    You also forget that Kishi just introduced the elements a few chapters ago, and is basically pulling this stuff out of his ass as he goes.

    Kankurou is a Jounin, but we have only seen him use puppets. Are puppets an element? We have only seen Temari use wind so far, and Neji... who knows what element Byakuugan is using, but we haven't seen two from him either.

    Kishi is making this stuff up, and at times contradicting himself. So don't be surprised if he decides that Shadow is a combination of two elements, just for the purpose of promoting Shika.
    If jounin level ninjas require at least 2 elements, then how could Gai be a jounin? Also, Rock Lee is completely screwed since he can't use ninjutsu at all. There is definitely a an overall basis for making shadow a "hidden" or "secret" elemental affinity since Itachi used it way back. Or it could be a combination of two basic elements like wood or ice. Or it could be a bloodline limit, who knows?

    I think Kishi was thinking of this stuff ahead of time though. If you look back even to the earliest parts of the manga, Kishi was using the elemental circle in fights. Sasuke's blazing fireball didn't have any effect on Haku's ice jutsu. Kakashi used an earth jutsu (Tracking dogs) against Zabuza (who only used water jutsus). It's also heavily present during the Third's fight with Oro - Third uses Fireball; Second counters with water wall; third counters with earth wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super5
    If jounin level ninjas require at least 2 elements, then how could Gai be a jounin? Also, Rock Lee is completely screwed since he can't use ninjutsu at all. There is definitely a an overall basis for making shadow a "hidden" or "secret" elemental affinity since Itachi used it way back. Or it could be a combination of two basic elements like wood or ice. Or it could be a bloodline limit, who knows?

    I think Kishi was thinking of this stuff ahead of time though. If you look back even to the earliest parts of the manga, Kishi was using the elemental circle in fights. Sasuke's blazing fireball didn't have any effect on Haku's ice jutsu. Kakashi used an earth jutsu (Tracking dogs) against Zabuza (who only used water jutsus). It's also heavily present during the Third's fight with Oro - Third uses Fireball; Second counters with water wall; third counters with earth wall.

    They never said all jounin have two elements. They said "Most" jounin have two elements.
    Also Gai specializes in taijutsu we all know that but, that does not mean he does not have ninjutsu or multiple elements. I even remember him doing a move where he had fire in his hands.

    Also wood and ice elements are a fussion of two elements. Ice is water, and wind. Wood is water, and earth if im not mistaken. they are blood line limits not basic elements lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FullMetalAlchemist
    They never said all jounin have two elements. They said "Most" jounin have two elements.
    I'm guessing you ignored this right here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsune

    The requirement kinda means you need to have two elements.


    LaZie made this...a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaoskiddo
    I'm guessing you ignored this right here...



    The requirement kinda means you need to have two elements.

    I seriously thought i read "most", but i i'm wrong on that one. Kishi had to have screwed up on that one it just does't make sense. Especially when you go with the point someone used in that we have never seen temari use another element besides wind, and we have never seen neji or konkaru (can't spell his name) use any elements at all.

    If any of that made sense then lee shouldnt even be able to become a shinobi period. He doesnt use any element at all, he doesnt even have ninjutsu for god sake lol.

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    The way the manga is going, they should rename it Shikamaru!

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