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  1. #61
    In the Kakashi vs. Itachi and Kakashi vs. Zabuza fights, the sharingan could not tell that water clones were not real.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Kakuzu die, he's stretch armstrong combined with greed from FMA, I think he's kind of lame.

    And I'd really not enjoy seeing a bunch of space devoted to a backstory on him so he can be fleshed out more before he dies.
    Last edited by Necromas; Sun, 12-03-2006 at 11:58 PM.

  2. #62
    Hm, I think it'd actually be kinda cool to see him killed off quickly and efficiently, but most likely he's not going to die, especially since he seemed so calm when he was saying "that speed of reading hand seals... this level of lightning jutsus... ahh, you're..." or something like that, anyway, he seemed rather calm and realized Kakashi's identity, and yeah, as someone else said, seems pretty likely he can use those strings of his to heal up his wounds, it's possible he's another puppet type, probably his body is some type of outer casing, maybe those strings are what he turned himself into. *shrugs* Just have to wait and see, anyhoo, nice to see Naruto having the same feeling it used to, it was lulling for awhile.

  3. #63
    since nothing diffrent to discuss till next chapter. something just poped up in my head that made me think a little. Naruto is getting this brand new jutsu and all but kishi left an opening for sasuke to still be stronger then him. remember oro told sasuke not to use some jutsu he was getting ready to use..... he may already have something to trump this hurrican rasengan. Not to mention an opening for MS since kakashi has gotten it without killing any of his friends.

    maybe the jutsu jiraya said not to use really isnt 4tail mode and can be just as powerful, but all indications so far are pointing otherwise. Here is hopeing to something more special then just the new rasengan against a diffrent chidori.

    It is kinda interesting when you think about it really how no matter what he leaves openings for sasuke (his favorite character) to be the most powerful character besides itachi and akatsuki leader i guess.

  4. #64
    Well, let me first say great chapter.One of the best i've read in a while.Alot of goodies


    Kakuzu being calm was interesting because even though we'd probably all want him to die and this to be over with,deep down i think we all want to see his abilities a little bit more now that Kakashi is in the picture.And, since he's(kishi+ kakashi)already started to explain and show some.I personally wouldn't mind.Kakuzu's a pretty interesting guy.And being as how he could have an inherited trait, or blood line limit,it could turn out cool.

    Secondly.I love how Naruto is getting taught all of this stuff by Kakashi and Yamato.It's like a business student getting personally trained by Warren Buffet and Bill Gates or something.Anywho.Having Kakshi in the fight makes things better and now that he's actually a big part of the fight,it can only get better.


    Note:I figured something that could bring out some clues.In slide 14 Naruto was explaining that he understood Yamato's element teachings.I think that means something deeper.

    He was saying that his wind can "help" and save the fire.I think we all know that that means he's going to save Sasuke or atleast something of that nature.I could be wrong but just a theory.And also,Kishi has a tendancy to draw Naruto with a certain tired focused look on his face when ever he gets to figuring something out or get smart about a situation.

    Once again just a theory.Post away

  5. #65
    As for the whole wind saving the fire it's supposed to be an extended metaphor of how naruto's resolve will strengthen Sasuke's lost bonds of friendship, blah blah you get the idea.

  6. #66
    kakashi using raikiri with his bandaged hand will influence the result in 334

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Necromas
    In the Kakashi vs. Itachi and Kakashi vs. Zabuza fights, the sharingan could not tell that water clones were not real.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Kakuzu die, he's stretch armstrong combined with greed from FMA, I think he's kind of lame.

    And I'd really not enjoy seeing a bunch of space devoted to a backstory on him so he can be fleshed out more before he dies.

    The Sharingan could and did see the that water clones weren't real against Zabuza. Kakashi copied the water clone jutsu and made his own, which he used to attack Zabuza's water clone. He didn't attack the water clone with his actual person.

    And vs Itachi, it wasn't a clone. It was more of a disguise, so I don't think that counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne
    The Sharingan could and did see the that water clones weren't real against Zabuza. Kakashi copied the water clone jutsu and made his own, which he used to attack Zabuza's water clone. He didn't attack the water clone with his actual person.

    And vs Itachi, it wasn't a clone. It was more of a disguise, so I don't think that counts.
    No.....

    Kakashi copied the water clone jutsu because he saw zabuza performing the water clone jutsu, but he can't physically see anything different between a clone form and the real body.
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  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
    No.....

    Kakashi copied the water clone jutsu because he saw zabuza performing the water clone jutsu, but he can't physically see anything different between a clone form and the real body.
    Isn't it byakugan that can see the difference between clones and real bodies, not sharingan (like Assertn said)? However, even byakugan is fooled by shadow clones since they have a real chakra circulation system. But it wouldn't be fooled by water clones.

  10. #70
    From http://www.narutofan.com/index.php/c...ines,sharingan

    The Sharingan has many abilities, but it's main one is the ability to copy every Nin, Gen, and Tai Jutsu seen by it. This means that in every fight the Sharingan is used, the more techniques are learned. Also, this doesn't require the user to want to learn the technique. It is like a defense mechanism, which operates once the attack commences. Another of the Sharingan's abilities is seeing through illusions. For example, Bunshins, or even Kage Bunshins are no problem for the Sharingan. It can see them all as chakra sources, and only the real one looks normal.
    The Byakugan gives an almost 360 degree vision and can see chakra. It cannot tell the difference between kage bunshins because the chakra is distributed evenly.

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    Sasuke was able to tell the difference between the bunshins/people in the forest of death that those crappy ninjas with gas masks made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Astronomer
    Sasuke was able to tell the difference between the bunshins/people in the forest of death that those crappy ninjas with gas masks made.
    Important detail: bunshin does NOT equal kage/misu bunshin
    The difference here being that bunshins are just genjutsu

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  13. #73
    Bunshins are genjutsu, i.e., illusions. They have no substance and are not real. Thus, anyone - even normal ninjas - can tell they're different from real people (they don't disturb their surroundings). Water or Shadow or Sand Clones have substance - they are made of water, ?, or sand. They are real and can even use techniques that their controller knows. Hence, how can sharingan tell the difference? If it looks and acts like the original, how do you know it's not the original? Only byakugan can tell because it sees the chakra circulatory system. And shadow clones can't even be recognized by the byakugan.

    Bottom line is even Itachi couldn't tell the difference if Kakashi made some water clones - at least not by his sharingan alone. Neiji easily could.

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