Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion

[masamuneehs]

Well, considering Gundam00 (another graphics heavy, mecha production by Sunrise) stops airing around that time, I'm not too surprised that Code Geass is resuming.

And, I do hope that we actually learn some things about C.C.'s "race" or whatever they are, along with the Thought Elevators, that weird shadow planet that's been in all the OPs, and the like... I'm also incredibly intrigued to see what happens to Shirley. Surprisingly, one of my least favorite characters turned out to be central to one of the most interesting storylines in all of the first half. And Lelouch won't be able to Geass her this time...

On a related note, I hope the storyline, and all further events involving my least favorite character (Nina) end. Now that Euphie's dead, I wishfully can't see much of a purpose for her anymore. I also hope Orange-kun dies. That character started waxing cliche since Narita... Super strong enemy pilot who is mentally unstable and obsessed with beating the protagonist? Please, was that archetype ever anything but an excuse for flashy fights?

I hope to see more out of Suzaku. Yes, I still like him. (Remember, this is coming from Kira Yamato's #1 hater) And although I'm not willing to debate it with you all, I don't see him as being any worse than Lelouch or C.C., especially by the time the first season ended. Different sides of the same coin, if you ask me. Let's see if he can lead troops as well as dish it in combat.

[Ryllharu]

After all, Cornelia appointed him officially as a knight, one of her own no less. I'm happy to see him leading the charge against the Black Knights. Despite the advantage of the Lancelot, Suzaku is still an incredibly capable pilot in his own right. He fought off both the Gurren and the Burai (was going to put 'samurai' units when the name clicked). Not to mention all the stunts he pulls off outside of the cockpit.

I'll agree that Orange-kun needs to go, but Nina may still have a place. She may be a mentally unstable lesbian, but she's also appears to be the smartest of all the inventor characters. While Lloyd and Raksharta have made very impressive devices, Nina was able to create a nuclear bomb (and enhance it with sakuradite). Lloyd in particular only saw it as theoretical, and we assume Raksharta as well because they both recognized it immediately when she brought it out and when Lloyd yelled a vague warning.

I could see Nina siding alongside Lloyd to develop devastating weapons for Britannia in an effort to kill Zero. Plus, we never did find out what Milly was referring to when she said during the kidnapping episode, "We won't leave you behind like the last time."

I'm no fan of hers, but there's still a lot more that can be done with Nina.

[Yukimura]

I really don't understand how people can 'like' Britannia but whatever, but I guess liking villainous governments isn't exactly a new thing. I would agree that Nina's brain has some good potential and I'm all about the lesbian crush, but her personality is just so annoying. If she does get a decent role in season 2 I hope they use her insanity as an excuse to eliminate her more annoying personality traits.

[shinta|hikari]

Im pretty sure Suzaku is damn pathetic when it comes to strategy and leading troops. He isnt exactly a leader or a thinker. If he can do that, he would technically be a broken character. That doesnt make him dumb though. He was sharp enough to figure out Zero was Lelouch after all.

I hope he leads an assault and fails miserably causing numerous deaths of his subordinates and preferably someone he knows/cares about. IMHO, Suzaku doesnt have to die. He can just suffer immensely and go nuts before the show ends and I will be satisfied.

[TheBladeChild]

Im pretty sure Suzaku is damn pathetic when it comes to strategy and leading troops. He isnt exactly a leader or a thinker. If he can do that, he would technically be a broken character. That doesnt make him dumb though. He was sharp enough to figure out Zero was Lelouch after all.

I hope he leads an assault and fails miserably causing numerous deaths of his subordinates and preferably someone he knows/cares about. IMHO, Suzaku doesnt have to die. He can just suffer immensely and go nuts before the show ends and I will be satisfied.

He didnt figure it out, V.V. told him. And I completely agree with you that he needs to suffer more before he bites it in this show. I really hope that he does turn out to become some kind of great leader, or slow learns to be come one. That would make him a lot more annoying IMO.

On to another topic:

So with the 2nd season coming about, I went looking for the code geass manga. Not for spoilers or anything, though the manga comes after the anime so no point in looking, but I wanted to see If there were any differences between the anime and the manga. So after looking through the titles that had code geass in it, most were doujins >.<, I stumbled across one called: Code Geass: Suzaku of the Counterattack, I read the synopsis and apperently its just the same story but from Suzaku's persepctive. Now I know they wouldnt do this in the anime but I got concerned that Suzaku would become the main char for S2. Am I just overthinking this or does anyone else share the same concerns? I dont know why I came to this theory about S2, maybe its just that pic of Suzaku that made me think he might step up as the new main char.

[shinta|hikari]

V.V. didnt tell him. He figured it out. It was in one of the sound episodes. He already had a hunch, but denied it because Lelouch was his bestfriend. Doesnt make him any better a character though.

[Ryllharu]

V.V. only told Suzaku that Zero had the Geass, which explained to Suzaku why Euphie went berserk.

[Ryllharu]

Apologies for the double post, but I found this relevant:

The official announcement for the show came at Otakon, and the localization of the series is being done by Zero Limit. The show will be aired on Adult Swim in the spring of 2008. According to Iyadomi, Mr. Goro Taniguchi, the show's original director, helped select the English voice talent for the dubbed release.

The English Language cast is as follows:

Lelouch: Johnny Yong Bosch

C2 (CC): Kate Higgins

Kallen: Karen Strassman

Suzaku Kururugi: Yuri Lowenthal

Lloyd: Liam O'Brien

Tohdoh: Steven Blum

Bartley: Peter Spellos

Clovis: Dave Wittenberg

Emperor: Michael McConnohie

Shirley: Amy Kincaid

Milly: Julie Ann Taylor

Nina & Sayoko: Kim Mai Guest

Not that I have ever been a particular fan of dubs (Cowboy Bebop and Black Lagoon being the exception, though I still like the Japanese on the later) but the localized version is making some progress, and you may be able to pick up the dvds should you choose to do so.

One thing that caught my eye in this little newsbite was C.C.'s name being listed as C2. I had always wondered why if her name in the credits was always listed as "C.C." why Lelouch always pronounced it "shi-tsu." After seeing as "C2," it finally all clicks into place. Jun Fukuyama (Lelouch's VA) has always called her "C-two." The engrish pronunciation changes it into "Shi-tsu."

[shinta|hikari]

Im incredibly surprised that you only figured that out now. Dont get me wrong, I know a lot of people who didnt get it, but I kind of expected you to.

[Ryllharu]

Sorry for disappointing you. I was kind of keeping my eyes on her and not the way Jun Fukuyama was pronouncing her name.

[Kraco]

I might check some clips on YouTube - if I remember. It could be interesting to hear how they sound like in English. At least it sounds promising the original director helped in the selection process.

[Ryllharu]

I've heard complaints that the casting of Lelouch and Suzaku should be switched, as Yuri Lowenthal has the deeper voice, more suitable for Lelouch and his Zero voice. I'm largely unfamiliar with most of the cast, so I can't say one way or the other about it.

I'll watch an episode or two on Adult Swim and see how they turned out.

[shinta|hikari]

A deep voiced Suzaku? Maybe I will hate himmore with that.

[RyougaZell]

What the fuck? Yuri Lowenthal as Suzaku?
That guy is awesome... but Suzaku? damn... I can imagine him as Lelouch... not Suzaku.

(Skeeeith!!, hehehe)


BTW... they just HAD to give Kallen to someone called... Karen... right?

[Yukimura]

This feels like Death Note dub all over again. I have a feeling the voices affect the perception of their words. Johnny Young Bosh is an okay VA in my opinion, but he always sounds like a kid, even when he's trying to sound more mature, he sounds like a kid who is trying to sound mature. Then you have Yuri Lowenthal who can actually sound like a mature adult.

Suzaku will probably sound like a mature adult, and Lelouch will sound like a hid...hmm I wonder which charachters words will carry more psychological impact for the dub watchers? My hope is that the stupidity of Suzaku's lines will be strong enough to counter than the masculine coolness I suspect his voice is going to have so those poor ignorant dub fans will not be duped into thinking Suzaku is cool.

[Dark Dragon]

Oh worry not, it would actually be better for them to think that Suzaku is cool. They will hate him even more than we do after getting half way through.

[Crash]

Oh worry not, it would actually be better for them to think that Suzaku is cool. They will hate him even more than we do after getting half way through.

Hmmm, you have a good point. Thinking back i really didn't start to think of him as a complete douche until quite a few episodes into the show.

I may check out the english dub, but chances are i wont like it no matter how good it is. Once i hear the original i just cant watch the english. Not necessarily because the voice acting is bad, but because i identify the characters with those voices so the new ones just don't mesh for me.

[FelixZeroAlastor]

Wow you guys really hate Suzaku. I personally think he is awsome. Why do you guys think he is so terrible. I mean the only thing I thought he ever did wrong was point a gun at/threaten Karen. Other than that he is a pretty cool guy.

On the point of VAs I think the choices are pretty good. I do think they should've gotten someone with a deeper voice than Johnny to do Lelouch, but he has done done excellent work in the past. Should be interesting to see how he does this. Suzaku's voice is completely acceptable. I really liked his work in Tales of the Abyss and Soul Nomad. Seems to be a perfect fit for Suzaku. Might make me like him more than I already do. Liam doing Lloyd's voice is perfect. C.C.'s VA as well as Karen's VA are excellent choices as well. I was kinda hoping that Stephanie Sheh would do Shirley's VA. I've never heard Amy Kincaid before. Shirley is an important character so I hope she does a good job. I can't wait to see who voices Nunnally and Euphemia. I just hope that Chantal Strand doesn't do Euphemia.

[Yukimura]

I hate Suzaku for being a sanctimonious hypocrite. From childhood he was apparently spoiled into the belief that nothing is more important or more right than his own ideas, whatever they me be. He thinks he is the righteous hand of God no matter what horrible thing he might be doing. He indiscriminately kills anyone who gets in his way yet all the while he justifies it by saying he's trying to 'do the right thing' but those people were in his way so they deserved to die. He killed his own father because he (an 8-12 year old boy) decided that he knew what was best for Japan.

I don't hate him for most of his actions though (mainly just the patricide), I hate him for his stupid justifications that try to mask the fact that he is trying to force his ideals and will onto everyone around him regardless of what they want. In the final ep he finally admitted that he was doing something just because he felt like it, but I think even then he felt that his actions were somehow justified by some higher power that absolves him of any guilt.

[shinta|hikari]

That, and the fact that he keeps getting in the way of two of my favorite characters ever.