Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion

[shinta|hikari]

It's been mentioned over and over during conversations with Suzaku that everyone thought he was in the Research Division, in a non-combatant role. He never lied to anyone about it, he always just said "research division." Everyone simply assumed the rest. This became clear when his cockpit was cleaved open and the reporters were all in shock that an Eleven was piloting a Knightmare, not to mention the most advanced one. It would be a huge shame upon Britannia if Euphie hadn't to saved it by declaring him her personal Knight. I'm sure she wanted to do it anyway, but there was not better time.

So Lulu hasn't been ignoring Suzaku, he honestly didn't believe his friend would be piloting a Knightmare, since he had no reason no to believe Suzaku's story about being a non-combatant.

Im assuming I wasnt clear enough. Lelouch has been ignoring the the lancelot itself in all the previous battles, not really thinking of ANY countermeasure against it. It doesnt matter if he knew Suzaku was the pilot or not.

But the fact that Suzaku was the pilot is probably what caused such an inconsistency, to prevent a main character from simply dying like he logically should have.

And Suzaku lied like crazy, saying that he wasnt exposed to combat and danger, clearly untrue.

[masamuneehs]

i don't see anything wrong with Suzaku's lying about being the Lancelot pilot. Hell, Lloyd and all of Britannia told him to keep quiet about it. Ryl mentioned that he never elaborated on his role in the Research Division, and I can't imagine you'd expect him to go to all his friends and say, "Yeah, so I'm the new ace pilot for Britannia".

I thought this episode was sorta blah. None of the new characters struck me as anything special, the climax is something we've seen coming for a long time, the animation did look a little sloppy... I was actually interested in which picture Euphie would pick to be the winner, hoping she'd snub that ugly propaganda piece...

Seeing how nervous Suzaku was about the execution was also a cool part, along with Euphie finally making Suzaku her knight.

Oh! and that note Shirley found in her room... looks like alot of our hunches were right, Lelouch's Geass memory-wipe appears to be an inadequate move after all. I really want to see what becomes of that. And where is Orange?

obviously hoping for more episodes, but only if they don't beef the story up with fan service and stupid crap. So far this show is awesome. And I'd rather it be 26 episodes of awesome rather than 39 with a diluted second half.

[shinta|hikari]

I never said Suzaku lying about it itself was wrong, just that what Ryl said about Suzaku never lying about it is wrong.

Is geass memory loss reversible? If it isnt, then the greatest danger that can be caused by Shirley finding the letter is exposing her memory loss, which I admit is a big deal, but not as big as knowing Zero's identity.

[Ryllharu]

He never once blatantly said he wasn't exposed to danger. If I'm wrong, please, episode number and timestamp. Or at least a screen cap.

Not saying anything is not the same as lying. He's only ever said he's in the research division and at most, "It's nothing too dangerous". Which is true, to a point. He's only ever been close to danger against Kallen and just now. It really isn't as if he's going out on missions with Cornelia and cleansing everyone in sight. Most of the time, he's on standby sitting with Lloyd and Cecile. The series shows him in a lot of combat, but compared to Cornelia, who's always on one extermination or another, he really hasn't seen all that much combat.

No one has anything to say about Raksharta, the evil scientist with the voice of a grade schooler?

[Church]

Is geass memory loss reversible? If it isnt, then the greatest danger that can be caused by Shirley finding the letter is exposing her memory loss, which I admit is a big deal, but not as big as knowing Zero's identity.

It's reversible, otherwise Lelouch wouldn't have remembered how he geassed himself in the last episode. I was sort of hoping it would be like a mental block, where as soon as one remembers or starts to feel something, then it's erased from their head again...

[RyougaZell]

I don't think thats the same case.
Lelouch Geass'ed himself to forget he gave himself an order. He didn't order himself to forget all about Geass.

At most Shirley will get uber headaches trying to remember something erased from his brain.

Sure, both orders are similar, but Lelouch remembered just by knowing he has Geass. Shirley didn't react at seeing Lelouch at the tombstone nor at school. Her note will most likely confuse her, and may even drive her crazy, but she won't remember that easily as Lelouch.

In Lelouch's case it didn't have a side effect. In Shirley's case it may brake her down once again.

Edit to below:
You are right. I had forgotten about the red around a Geass'ed individual. That was the best way for Lelouch to notice. While Shirley's case will be more complicated.

[Deadfire]

I don't think thats the same case.
Lelouch Geass'ed himself to forget he gave himself an order. He didn't order himself to forget all about Geass.

My thought on that one was that he noticed that he had been geass'ed by seeing the red around his own eyes and from there asumed what had happened.

So yes my thoughts exactly

[shinta|hikari]

Not saying anything is not the same as lying. He's only ever said he's in the research division and at most, "It's nothing too dangerous". Which is true, to a point. He's only ever been close to danger against Kallen and just now. It really isn't as if he's going out on missions with Cornelia and cleansing everyone in sight. Most of the time, he's on standby sitting with Lloyd and Cecile. The series shows him in a lot of combat, but compared to Cornelia, who's always on one extermination or another, he really hasn't seen all that much combat.

Oh come on. A half truth is a whole lie, and its not just an expression. Lying doesnt have to involve saying the exact words. By simply saying things that would provoke the understanding of something different from the truth on purpose is lying. Suzaku implied that he was a non-combatant, which he wasnt, which was in effect lying. Doesnt really matter much though.

[RyougaZell]

From Code Geass DVD 2

WARNING - NOT WORK SAFE

http://cynthia.bne.jp/newanime/img/1170450989_0102.jpg

http://cynthia.bne.jp/newanime/img/1170450989_0103.jpg


Wonder if they decided to censor that scene because the series was just beginning and then decided to not censor anymore (Viletta's scene a few eps ago)

Second screenshot is from the 2nd Special or something.

[Knives122]

Hmmmmmmm CG got new op. clips actually makes the song seem more enjoyable....notice how I said seem.

Fast paced super actiony

[Yukimura]

I must agree whole-heartedly with Knives. I like this song 100 times more now because the new OP sequence went so well with it. It seems like part of it wasn't complete but they wanted to switch to the new song anyway so they just tossed in what they had and left out the rest until now.

[shinta|hikari]

I loved this song from day 1. Well, at least much more than colors, which I felt was too... normal for code geass. Oddness is what fits in with this series.

[Board of Command]

From Code Geass DVD 2

WARNING - NOT WORK SAFE

http://cynthia.bne.jp/newanime/img/1170450989_0102.jpg

http://cynthia.bne.jp/newanime/img/1170450989_0103.jpg


Wonder if they decided to censor that scene because the series was just beginning and then decided to not censor anymore (Viletta's scene a few eps ago)

Second screenshot is from the 2nd Special or something.

OMG THANK YOU SIR

[Elyne]

hmm.. Sort of forgot about this serie, but now I've picked it up again and of course I run into trouble..
After ep 14 I can't get subs to work.. I've been using VLC and up until episode 15 I've had no trouble(except for an crash every now and then), so hoping that someone might be able to help me.

[Kraco]

I suggest changing to some other player. VLC has a broken softsub rendering engine, and certain type of subtitle formatting causes the program to crash. And that certain type is occassionally used in Geass (and other animes. It's normal, VLC is abnormal). I think gg tried to avoid it to an extend before ep 15, but then got bored of it, mainly because some VLC users continuously blame subbers for something that's VLC's own fault.

Or at least that's how I've understood the situation, and I doubt I'm misinformed.

[Board of Command]

VLC sucks. I can't believe so many people still rave about this piece of shit. What you want is the following:

- Media Player Classic / BSPlayer / anything other than VLC or WMP
- FFDShow (recent version from Afterdawn or something)
- Haali Splitter
- VSFilter

Learn to use these things in conjunction, especially FFDShow, and you can play any format you want. A one-solution player (like VLC) is almost never the best option.

[Death13a]

I use Z player that comes with CCCP pack for Geass and mkv files and Classic for rest. And rarely VLC for 'abnormal' files.

[Elyne]

Thanks for the replies. Never had any trouble with VLC before I started to watch Geass so I wouldn't say it suck that much.

[masamuneehs]

The second recap episode is out from gg... now i just wish we'd get a real episode!

Code Geass _ Episode 17.5 (Recap episode#2) _ ggfansubs _ .mkvformat

[Lucifus]

Shinta got me hooked on this anime and I'm absolutly loving it. Probably the first "Mecha" I can say I truly enjoy. Now where the f*cks the next episode!