Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion

[Kraco]

I used to use Haali + ffdshow for h264, but actually just yesterday I turned off the ffdshow rendering for h264, and replaced it with CoreAVCdecoder. And I couldn't believe me bloody eyes (not literally bloody). It must be 50% faster than ffdshow, at least. Now, my computer isn't the fastest thing on earth, so I was rather pleased. Of course that manner of thing actually requires a bit more knowledge and trials than just clicking "Install", so it might be out of reach for n00bs, but any gotwooters certainly would be able to do it, should they ever feel like performing little experiments.

Oh, and #16 got released...

Episode 16 - gg
DVD Picture Book 1 - gg

Edit: Damn, there was a fake episode 16v2 floating around... Now with the official link.

[shinta|hikari]

Like I said before, ep 16 OWNS.

I would never have guessed that Mao would come back. Code Geass just keeps surprising me. And using geass on himself is just pure genius, though I kind of figured it out when he came to play the final game without any plans. Its not that it isnt like Lelouch, since when it comes to Nunnaly he generally becomes stupid (as the episode shows) It would just be too strange for the meddling Suzaku to let him go like that.

What is "the new world" that C.C. mentioned? She actually told Mao to wait, so Im assuming if you die you go there. Is it some kind of afterlife? Or is it C.C.'s goal to die? So far, the second possibility is quite possible since apparently she simply cant die, and is maybe getting tired of living. This would mean that there is a definite separation in the end though, which might indeed be fitting, but I personally would not like.

Im so glad Suzaku (the super human wall running machine gun kicking bullet dodging mad bomb defusing skillz freak) went crazy in the end. If it was Mao that said it, then Suzaku did not really have any decent excuse for killing his father, since Mao would have read that as well. The only thing I liked about Suzaku was his "heroism" and willingness to sacrifice. Now that it has been revealed that it was all about guilt, I like him even less, but pity him more. It kind of balances out and results with the same level of hate as before.

Its also too weird that Suzaku accepted Lelouchs explanation of the matter with Mao and Nunally with such ease. If he still doesnt suspect Lelouch of anything after this, he is an absolute idiot (which he is, so he wont). He went crazy anyway, so it shouldnt matter.

[Ryllharu]

I was still pissed Mao came back, until he went after Suzaku. I really doubt we'd ever have heard that information any other way, since it's akin to Lulu telling everyone he is Zero, and more in addition, a former prince. I'm hoping C.C. shot Mao in the head, but it didn't really look/sound like it particularly, so for now I'll play it safe and assume he's not dead. But for all intents and purposes, he's been neutered. Lulu's impulsive use of the Geass is more than enough to make Mao pretty much harmless. Mao has always used revealing people's thoughts as his primary weapon, and since Lulu muted him permanently, there's only so much he could still do anymore.

At least Ougi isn't that stupid about keeping Viletta. He's got her under constant watch and doesn't really trust her. I was also surprised about Euphie and Cornelia's discussion in the garden. I really didn't know the two of them believed Lelouch and Nanali we both dead. It also didn't seem like Cornelia knew who killed their mother, since they talked about the how Clovis modeled the garden after Lulu's mother's palace. Maybe because she was with her precious Euphie, but I just don't see how Cornelia would know anything.

Milly and Lloyd? Didn't expect that one coming as her omiai. Though, they do have similar personalities...

Looks like next time we get Kallen in her sexy new pilot suit, and the incredibly obvious appointment of Suzaku as Euphie's Knight.

[shinta|hikari]

Im pretty sure Mao is dead.

Okay I will prove it. First, he got shot in the side of the neck, and judging by the angle of the gun, the bullet would have passed through a majority of his brain cells and nerves.

Second, his geass, which was supposed to be permanent, ceased functioning before he dropped to the ground. I think his geass was supposed to work even when he sleeps, so if its gone, he's dead.

Third, C.C. told him to wait for her in the "new world" (whatever that is), so at least C.C. thinks he is dead. I doubt an old gal like her (with killer moves btw) would make the mistake of Mao not being dead at such a close proximity.

In conclusion, he is mute AND dead.

[Ryllharu]

Good enough for me. I just don't want what happened in this episode to happen again. I hate Mao, and I want to see him dead (as in decapitated and on a pike, so we can be sure).

As for the "new world," I think we've heard about it before. Maybe not quite in those words, but at least in reference. Since Euphie and Cornelia brought Clovis back up, I remembered an earlier scene where we saw the Emperor talking to his advisers. They mentioned Clovis' death, and the Emperor said something along the lines of 'I've been talking to him for the last hour.' That's some creepy shit.

I'm not even sure I can speculate about that, but I'm sure C.C. has something to do with it in some way.

[RyougaZell]

Quite an excellent episode.
Did someone mentioned Mao coming back because Sunrise loved bringing characters back? LOL
Suzaku killed his father? wow... talk about... what Lelouch wants to do, kill his own.
The scene with Cornelia and Euphemia surprised because of how they spoke of their 'dead' relatives and for seeing a girly Cornelia...

Picture book showed more about the past of Suzaku, Lelouch and Nunnaly... wow... Suzaku was a britannian hater back then... and now he is a Britannian dog...

[Yukimura]

Very nice ep, I knew Lelouch had a plan when he went to face Mao but I had no idea he'd Geass himself, clever guy. But with Mao I didn't hear a gunshot, so I initially thought that she had injected him with something that at the least removed his Geass and at best killed him right out.

And now Suzaku is even more hated then ever in my eyes. He killed his dad b/c he didn't agreee with him...at like 10 years old. Wouldn't it be great if all countries could have 10 year old Prime Ministers that would kill anyone they thought wanted to do things a different way from their obviously correct choices. Though I'm guessing that the patricide happened after Suzaku walked through all those dead bodies and that he did it b/c he decided that life as a slaves was better than death.

[masamuneehs]

Triple wow in this episode:

Wow #1: Mao came back. Guess I'm the only one who was happy about this... but then Mao played a pretty weak hand in his attempt to beat Lelouch. I liked him because he wasn't all about crazy elaborate plans and flashy villainery, but then he goes and does cookie-cutter villain shit. Photo of the kidnapped, bomb preventing rescue, climactic showdown in the form of the main character's preferred sport/hobby in order to humilate him... He deserves to be dead, and real dead, this time.

But, I'm confused. At the start, C.C. was going off to China (or somewhere), so how'd she get back so fast and in time to save the day? (this ep is all one school day) Was her killing Mao some sort of symbolic thing? Like Lelouch Geassed him to "become mute, leave here immediately and die"... Thoughts?

Wow #2: Earl Lloyd's proposal. I mean, wow.

Wow #3: Suzaku's past. I didn't see that coming at all, but it shows alot about his character and makes perfect sense for his whole "I've joined Britannia to quell the uprising so no more people die in the fighting" motto. I still think he's a good guy, and I understand where he gets that fighting notion from. I'd disagree with it...

I wonder if Mao exaggerated the truth about Suzaku's motivation for fighting? Mao made it seem like Suzaku is just doing this to make up for his sin and somehow justify killing his father. But I wonder if that's the whole story. To me, Suzaku freaked out because Mao introduced that idea to him, and that he, up until that point, truly believed what he was doing was a noble effort to prevent the loss of life that he witnessed when Japan fell. I see him struggling with it briefly, but ultimately putting the past behind him (unlike Lelouch) and sticking with his convictions that he is fighting so others won't die.

He may be wrong, and on the wrong side, but I still admire Suzaku. I still don't get why everyone hates him. If anything, Lelouch is the one to be hated, using people like objects for his own ends (revenge) and causing strife in the present to make up for the past. I don't buy the whole "make a new and better world so people don't end up suffering like Nanally" bit at all.

well, i suppose part of what makes this show great is how it makes people feel about the characters. That and the absolutely awesome plot.

RIP Mao, for real this time please.

edit - and what of this "new world" indeed... Something for me to think about in class today...

[Ryllharu]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed Lloyd and Milly's Omiai. The two them do have a more similar demeanor now that I think about it. Lloyd uses Suzaku as his toy, and Milly uses the entire student council (and occasionally the rest of the Academy). I do kind of see them fitting together. Milly was acting very formal and unlike herself until Lloyd made the lightning-fast proposal, and then we saw a little bit of her normal self.

Sure, the main plot is great, but it's the tiny side scenes that eventually connect back that make the series excellent.

[suckitdry]

F yeah! This show = the r0xx0r!! But i hate Suzakyu he=kira

[Death13a]

Greatest episode of all times!!!!

I like how Lelouch admited defeat and how praticly shattered when he thought Nanully died (understandbel as he carried her for most of his life on his back). Suzaku didn't know that he killed his father was kinda cheese but news flash and his reaction to it was great.

[Church]

I knew he'd be back... sunrise is so predictable sometimes. Jugding from this then I'll safely sat that Villetta actually lost her memories, but it'll come back later in a very hurried and dues ex machina fashion.

Good episode overall, but some parts felt a little weak, don't know why, but it does.
I was hoping we'd see some of Rakshata, but I guess we'll have to wait. And maybe we'll get to see more of Kaguya Sumeragi, the head of the Kyoto house, which should be pretty interesting considering she knew Suzaku and Lelouch from their childhood times.

[shinta|hikari]

did suzaku not know? Im thinking he does, but just simply escapes from reality by making excuses to himself for what he did. If he did not know, then he would not become the life-risking daredevil he is now, since that is derived from guilt.

EDIT: just watched the picture book. I understand now why Lelouch is so intent on protecting Nunnaly. He has already done so much for her. I am convinced that the real Lelouch is the one interacts with Nunnaly, and the more twisted version of him is the product of all the hate that has built up inside him for all that has happened.

Suzaku beat Lelouch up... He MUST die. The old suzaku and the new suzaku arent too different. Both talk about things they dont really understand (ie Japan's status then, changing Britannia now), are idiots and charge blindly without really analyzing properly if what he is doing is correct or not.

Someone said Lelouch should be hated, well maybe, but not as much as Suzaku should be. He killed his own father because of sheer idiocy dammit. Lelouch at least has revenge going for him. What Mao said is pretty much true I think. Though Suzaku did indeed have in him a strong sense of justice, now he just uses it to escape from the truth (which is that he want to die).

Also, Lelouch wants to create a new world NOT for the sake of the world, but for Nunnaly's sake.

[masamuneehs]

just saw the picture book short, pretty interesting, giving us how Suzaku and Lelouch first met...

I understand that Suzaku is often wrong, and seldom knows how ill-informed/naive he is. But, I don't know why, I still like him better than Lelouch... and this is coming from a huge Kira Yamato hater...

i LOL'd at the part of the picture book where Lelouch is carrying Nunnaly up those steps and it's the cheap .gif of a still shot of her on his back, moving up and down in the frame. Lelouch has this exasperated look on his face and she's asking "Are you allright brother?" It just looked so naughty and wrong...

also, at the very end, Lelouch: "That was my first encounter with Suzaku. To me, who was always surrounded by rivals and vassals, he was my first friend. And eventually... he would become the man who was my worst enemy."

so, although we all expect it, it's confirmed that Lelouch will soon figure out that Suzaku is the Lancelot pilot... wonder how that'll impact their friendship... I know Lelouch will try to act like everything's normal.... but...

[darkshadow]

he wont kill him, worse he could do to him is geass him to forget all about his knightmare piloting skills, making him useless as a pilot.

[Munsu]

so, although we all expect it, it's confirmed that Lelouch will soon figure out that Suzaku is the Lancelot pilot... wonder how that'll impact their friendship... I know Lelouch will try to act like everything's normal.... but...

I always assumed that he already knew that Suzaku was piloting it. I don't think the Lacelot pilot is a secret. I may be mistaken.

[Mae]

I always assumed that he already knew that Suzaku was piloting it. I don't think the Lacelot pilot is a secret. I may be mistaken.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't know. Suzaku has never said anything about it, and in the last episode Lelouche made some sort of comment about how he thought Suzaku was in the research division.

And interesting ep. Not really in the main plotline but still enjoyable. Oh, and I totally called Suzaku killing his father. Very interesting parallel with Lalouche. I hope this kills the whole Kira comparison, because Suzaku is obviously not just an innocent pacifist. Although he was very young and traumatized by the death he had witnessed so there are some mitigating circumstances. He probably didn't plan it either. Also explains why he is so committed to the idea of coexisting with Britannia. After killing your own father for a cause it's sort of hard to admit you were wrong later.

Also, where can I find this picture book or whatever?

[Honoko]

Also, where can I find this picture book or whatever?

I beleive u can find it rite here: click!

[shinta|hikari]

I actually just assumed since the C.C. mind reading incident that Suzaku killed his own father. I dont know why, but thats the kind of guy I believed him to be. Never even thought about another possibility.

[oyabun]

I assumed back then that suzaku did something stupid that lead to the death of his father, I did not expect that he killed his own father for his weird reasons. He obviously did not understand the situation back then because he is still a child.