Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion

[Ryllharu]

The reporter is pretty interesting. He's crafty and smart for figuring out Zero's plan. He told "orange-kun" much earlier that he had no interest to work in the military. Here he shows he doesn't have much interest in working with Zero so much as figuring out how he ticks and selling the biggest story he can on it. If I was Lulu, I'd watch out for hidden cameras.

C.C. and her Cheese-kun plushie (named on the back of her stamp piece in eps 12). Was she really after all that pizza, or did she only want Cheese-kun? She hadn't eaten a lot of her pizza in that episode...makes you wonder.

I'm willing to bet more than anything Shirley is going to get a good dose of Geas (going with the proper spelling). Hurt by Zero, betrayed by Lulu for being Zero, she's going to be a big liability otherwise.

If there's anything I hate more than cliffhangers in series like this, it's pacifists. Suzaku is really starting to piss me off. I'm glad both Llyod and Cecile have tried to get it into his head, he's part of the military, this is just what they do. You've got one of the most powerful Knightmares ever, and what do you do with it? Sit in it and whine about how killing is wrong while being part of a huge military. This series is great that it promotes both Lulu's Path of Carnage versus Suzaku and Euphie's Mahou Shoujo Pacifist Healing Wand approach. It's pretty obvious who I side with. Innocents or otherwise good people will be killed in war, it just happens. But just with what Lulu justifies himself with, What do you become when their lives were lost for nothing? A murderer instead of a freedom fighter. History after all, is written by the victor.

Letting the deaths of innocents be for nothing is as bad as killing them in the first place.

[Kraco]

Yeah. Suzaku would be better as a policeman. They only need to fight criminals. The military might need to fight or destroy whoever they happen to be ordered to fight against.

There's no denying Suzaku is an excellent pilot, but he's still not suitable for the job of a member of an oppressive rebel suppression squad.

[Church]

Yeah, Suzaku is really starting to annoy me, almost hating him. Even Kira is better than him Llyod and Cecile is awesome as usual, they're probably one of my favorite pairs, they complement each other so well; Llyod actually has a good sense of humor.

Wonder where C.C. is going, and still wondering about the weird guy with the visor, is that who C.C. is "talking" to?

I was almost afraid Lulu/Zero would regret things and start to change, but I guess, like mentioned before, it just made things worse. I like how he set it up to look like the Liberation Front self-destructed, and used it as an excuse/shield to attack; but Lancelot has to come and ruin everything. So Shirley knows now, I don't think it's long before Karen knows too, maybe even the start of the next ep, Karen comes to rescue and finds the two of them...

[Yukimura]

Gah, every episode makes me want the next one more. Suzaku's whiny Kira complex is almost making me appreciate Kira more for not being this much of a pansy.

I'm thinking Shirley might not find out about Lelouch since he'll probably wake up and Geas/Intimidate her before she can pull down that mask. Villietta will be a different problem since she's trained military and not Geasable. Maybe that's what the Geass vs Geass title means.

[Church]

Yeah, Kira at least decides to do something, even if it's just blowing the arms/legs/etc off, Sukzaku on the other hand sits around looking confused, and regrets just about everything he does...

Next ep will definately be an interesting one...

O, and don't know if anyone's seen this, but I found it pretty amusing
http://www.pizzahut.jp/whatsnew/041_070109_codegeass/

[kooshi]

The new OP is quite disappointing. I don't mind the song, but it's pretty much the first OP with a new song. I was really hoping for something completely new, but bleh, what a disappointment.

I certainly like how Lelouch continues his "path of carnage", especially after realizing he is responsible for all the killings that he and his group has done. Sacrificing the people in the boat just as a decoy is really low, but it's the outcome that really matters.... well, to him anyways.

As in agreement with everyone else here, Suzaku is EXTREMELY annoying. Heck, he whines so much about how Zero causes so much pain and suffering, but when he saw him eject from the mecha, he didn't even finish him off! WHAT THE HECK?! Sure, Karen was going after him, but while fighting her, Suzaku can just easily run towards the cockpit and crush it or something. I dunno, I'm just really annoyed by him, so my thinking might not be rational.

[Kraco]

As in agreement with everyone else here, Suzaku is EXTREMELY annoying. Heck, he whines so much about how Zero causes so much pain and suffering, but when he saw him eject from the mecha, he didn't even finish him off! WHAT THE HECK?! Sure, Karen was going after him, but while fighting her, Suzaku can just easily run towards the cockpit and crush it or something. I dunno, I'm just really annoyed by him, so my thinking might not be rational.

I think you are contradicting yourself a bit. If he has troubles accepting violence, it does not make him more likely to finish off his enemies in any hurry. It would seem more likely he would try to capture them alive after rendering them unable to fight.

If he really tried to kill Zero the first chance he gets in foaming fury, then he would be nothing but a hypocrite.

[High Wind]

I think Suzaku is already a hypocrite to an extent. During this episode he was in a mission to not leave any survivors. While he expressed his discontent with this, he seemed ready to follow those orders and this sorta goes against the whole "pacifist" thing.

Also, it seems like a vast majority of people do not like Nina the Euphemia Obssesed creepy girl, myself included.

It'd be cool if she started posing a threat to Euphemia and the whole thing ended up with Suzaku killing her to protect Euphemia. Oh how fitting that would be.

[kooshi]

Hehe, like I said in that post, my thinking might not be rational, which you just showed me.

[Darknodin]

I don't think Suzaku is that annoying. heh, without him the show would have been over 3 eps ago. I'm all for entertainement... and that's what Lancelot messing up Zero's plan is.
In real life, i have to say, it'd be hard to be for Zero's actions. 1st most people wouldn't know of his bigger plan, and second, even if they did, ppl don't seem to like someone who might betray them this way, even if for the greater good. For example, i very much doubt ppl would be for a war to, say, force countries to behave ecologically, even though a lot of ppl in industrialized countries believe the Earth is gonna blow up if we don't (whether or not its true, its what they believe).

[shinta|hikari]

Haha, well the last part wasnt serious argument at all, just something to add to suzaku bashing. It was more of a joke than anything, since there is absolutely no logic behind it. Sorry if I wasnt able to express that clear enough. But, since it has been brought up, it is in fact insufficent to gauge suzakus skills as a pilot, but it is obvious that he is an ace and my whole point was that it was strange how Lelouch survived for so long not being on the same level as him. Then I realized the answer. Its because he cant die, he is the hero of the story.

Following this line of thought, Suzaku is probably a great pilot, since he was an even match to the Guren and owned so many knighmares before. I am going to be fair so that valid arguments against Suzaku dont get snubbed and labeled as ungrounded or repetitive.

On another note, saying Suzaku is not annoying because he is an important plot element doesnt make sense, since even with a completely different personality and intentions, as long as he interferes in the fights, the story will progress. He doesnt have to be obsessed with being right like he is.

What I dont like about Suzaku isnt his convictions about justice, since that in itself is a positive attitude. The problem is his ego, and his belief that only his way is correct, and any other method is "wrong". Even Lelouch admits that what he is doing is sometimes cheap, meaning he accepts the pros and cons, as well as the rightness and wrongness of his actions. Suzaku doesnt, and he perfectly believes everything he is doing right now is free of sin, and doesnt have any similarity to Zero. On that note, I hate him to death. (that is a kira free argument by the way)

Its so easy to blame others and label them as wrong, since one can never completely assume anothers point of view. I like Lelouch on this point, since he respected Suzakus choice of changing things in his own way, though he called him an idiot (which he is). He could have just geassed him into allying with him, or to leave the military completely, but he didnt despite knowing the risk they might fight someday.

Suzaku never even attempts such a thing, and is hell bent on stopping Zero for doing things he himself has done quite a number of times (namely killing).

To change the topic, I wonder how he will react when he finds out Zeros identity. He was even willing to throw away his life for Lelouch before (I like this part about him), but if he finds out his identity, what will he choose?