Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion

[masamuneehs]

well caught up. sorry about repeating the whole Pizza Hut thing.

and yeah, the setting for this story seems to be an alternate time-line where Britain never lost its power. 89th King, "the colony America" aiding the British after Trafalgar (1805) and the fact that the "history" learned at the university is all British. Guess it makes the American foreign policy today look like Mother Teresa....

I must say, Jeremiah reminds me alot of Jerid from Zeta Gundam. The guy can't win, but he can't die either. Even though he made the "Dead List" in 12... Oh, and that was a real shock about Shirley's dad. I had no idea he was even involved with the military...

And then the kiss. Man what a crummy way to start things off, a kiss out of sympathy (least that's what i think it was)

I love how smart Lelouch is. His plans and quick thinking are always really intriguing, keeps me interested and reminds me some of the mind-games in Death Note. But, for all his brains, he never seems to account for the Lancelot in his battle plans. And it's not like he's unfamilar with it either, he's seen it twice before Narita. Someone on IRC suggested he thought the Guren was capable of matching it, but he kept acting like the Guren's role was defeat Cornellia's guard and breakthrough the forces instead... He couldn't have counted on Toudou coming and aiding him, and Viletta and Gilford were covering Cornelia's escape. I don't know, it just doesn't seem to make sense... He's just lucky C.C. was there to save his ass.

finally, the smartest thing i heard yet from the Britannia Empire comes from a no-name speaker during the start of episode 12. "Subways, sewers, census of the ghettos weren't accounted for. We're neglecting the roots of the terrorists!" They never show the guy even, but, if Cornelia has a brain, she'll promote him and act on his words.

this show is fucking awesome... except for the ugly lesbo glasses girl masturbating scene. Hentai with her in it would make my penis shrivel... and she's annoying to boot... I want that bitch dead asap.

[shinta|hikari]

Just watched ep 13. Lots of new developments. I really didnt expect it too develop this quickly.

Im not gonna say anymore since it might spoil those who havent watched it yet.

EDIT: Regarding Lelouch not taking note of the Lancelot interfering, I think that just shows that he is still human, compared to Light in death note, who is more like a cpu. It is not that he forgets to put it in his calculations, but maybe he just thinks that (before the Guren) a machine of that calibre has the potential to completely mess with the plans he has setup.

Maybe he is just in denial, always hoping that the unknown factor will not interfere, since he cant really do much to stop it. Honestly, its just Suzakus idiocy that has allowed the black knights to survive this long. Well, now that the Guren is available, the situation should change.

Edited out spoilers, you may add them back when the sub is out. Please do not spoil until there is a sub of the ep in question. This is the same as referring to a event that has happened in the manga that wasn't happened in the anime. Of course I have to give you a warning as it would not be fair to others if I didn't. Please remember this before you post talking about the RAW -MOD

[RyougaZell]

And tell me... why must you post your impressions BASED ON A RAW!!

Ep 13 hasn't been subbed. Thanks for spoiling.

It has been fixed -MOD

[Ryllharu]

@shinta|hikari: Do Not discuss raw episodes. It is in violation of the rules of this forum.
See: http://forums.gotwoot.net/showthread.php?t=13928

I've already reported your post.

It has already been dealt with before you reported, but thanks for following the new rules - MOD

[Knives122]

I won't talk about the episode seeing how I haven't watched it yet, but I have decided to post the new op. on my youtube account.

The only part of this song that works is the chorus...

[Deadfire]

*sigh*

Things have been dealt with, let us continue as if it didn't happen.

and yes that new op is.....odd

[Ryllharu]

I'd like to see the lyrics before I make a final opinion on it (as if that might make a difference), but...it's pretty bad.

[RyougaZell]

I saw the new op on a HQ avi earlier today. I prefer COLORS.

[Yukimura]

This new OP sounds like Jinn's handiwork, they did the last OP for Blood+ as well if anyone cares. Anyway their style of semi-structured yelling doesn't really work for me, I hope the producers didn't pay much for this. They obviously didn't have enough cash to make a whole new OP sequence and the new song doesn't fit with the old scenes at all like Colors did.

[Ryllharu]

Watching the OP that Knives so nicely posted for all of us to watch, I feel the bigger problem is that they are reusing a lot of the same animation they have for the last two opening animations. It worked before because Colors was still the song, and when they re-did it the first time, it was made to fit the music pretty well (I still think the first animation was the best). Here, they replaced maybe 15 seconds of the animation (Euphie dancing, Viletta, some other people). If they had made all new animation for the new song, it probably wouldn't feel so...wrong.

[Church]

I saw the new OP, without sound, and if no one had told me I would've assumed it was still COLORS...

[shinta|hikari]

Sorry about posting about the raw, its not an excuse but I really didnt know it was against the rules. To be fair, the stuff that I posted werent really major plot elements, and more like just random impressions from the episode, (well one was, but it was really quite vague). Still, it wont happen again.

The ending song is better I believe, though it kind of feels... too happy for code geass, especially at this point. I feel there should be a lot of better choices for the opening. I never did like COLORS either, but I believe the precious ending song fit perfectly. I never usually like the style of the artist of .hack songs, but there it just seemed... right.

Maybe im just being too picky since code geass is just too good.

[Kraco]

Let's have a look at what was worth it to even break the rules:

Episode 13 - gg

Edit: The new OP certainly is far inferior compared to the old one. Well, I guess I just need to start skipping it. Not such a big deal. The episode itself was of course interesting. It looks like the death of Shirley's dad didn't break Lelouch, more like pushed him farther into the darkness by forcing him to admit on a deeper level how sacrifices are needed. Who knows if it also made him more suicidal by reducing his own worth in his own eyes.

Nevertheless, for Masa's pleasure, Lelouch still doesn't realise how imperative it is to count for Lancelot to ruin his plans. Now he's even screaming that injustice aloud. Well, at least it looks like a new person joined the exclusive club knowing Zero's true identity. It'll be an interesting next episode; whether Lelouch uses geass on Shirley or not to make her forget.


Somehow I wish this had proceeded to a different direction... But at least Pizza Hut is back!

[RyougaZell]

LOL. CC finally got her plushie by gathering Pizza Hut Stamps.

The op certainly isn't as powerful as COLORS, but the lyric isn't that bad. Although they should have made new animation completely.

I was kinda expecting Shirley to die crushed by the escape pod, but now she nows Zero's identity!! Will that make Lelouch abandon school? Kill her? Geass's her?

Damn... I thought Karen would see his face...

Sacrificing the others was cold blooded, and only the Britannian reporter figured it out.

Need more eps per week... lol.

[Ryllharu]

The reporter is pretty interesting. He's crafty and smart for figuring out Zero's plan. He told "orange-kun" much earlier that he had no interest to work in the military. Here he shows he doesn't have much interest in working with Zero so much as figuring out how he ticks and selling the biggest story he can on it. If I was Lulu, I'd watch out for hidden cameras.

C.C. and her Cheese-kun plushie (named on the back of her stamp piece in eps 12). Was she really after all that pizza, or did she only want Cheese-kun? She hadn't eaten a lot of her pizza in that episode...makes you wonder.

I'm willing to bet more than anything Shirley is going to get a good dose of Geas (going with the proper spelling). Hurt by Zero, betrayed by Lulu for being Zero, she's going to be a big liability otherwise.

If there's anything I hate more than cliffhangers in series like this, it's pacifists. Suzaku is really starting to piss me off. I'm glad both Llyod and Cecile have tried to get it into his head, he's part of the military, this is just what they do. You've got one of the most powerful Knightmares ever, and what do you do with it? Sit in it and whine about how killing is wrong while being part of a huge military. This series is great that it promotes both Lulu's Path of Carnage versus Suzaku and Euphie's Mahou Shoujo Pacifist Healing Wand approach. It's pretty obvious who I side with. Innocents or otherwise good people will be killed in war, it just happens. But just with what Lulu justifies himself with, What do you become when their lives were lost for nothing? A murderer instead of a freedom fighter. History after all, is written by the victor.

Letting the deaths of innocents be for nothing is as bad as killing them in the first place.

[Kraco]

Yeah. Suzaku would be better as a policeman. They only need to fight criminals. The military might need to fight or destroy whoever they happen to be ordered to fight against.

There's no denying Suzaku is an excellent pilot, but he's still not suitable for the job of a member of an oppressive rebel suppression squad.

[Church]

Yeah, Suzaku is really starting to annoy me, almost hating him. Even Kira is better than him Llyod and Cecile is awesome as usual, they're probably one of my favorite pairs, they complement each other so well; Llyod actually has a good sense of humor.

Wonder where C.C. is going, and still wondering about the weird guy with the visor, is that who C.C. is "talking" to?

I was almost afraid Lulu/Zero would regret things and start to change, but I guess, like mentioned before, it just made things worse. I like how he set it up to look like the Liberation Front self-destructed, and used it as an excuse/shield to attack; but Lancelot has to come and ruin everything. So Shirley knows now, I don't think it's long before Karen knows too, maybe even the start of the next ep, Karen comes to rescue and finds the two of them...

[Yukimura]

Gah, every episode makes me want the next one more. Suzaku's whiny Kira complex is almost making me appreciate Kira more for not being this much of a pansy.

I'm thinking Shirley might not find out about Lelouch since he'll probably wake up and Geas/Intimidate her before she can pull down that mask. Villietta will be a different problem since she's trained military and not Geasable. Maybe that's what the Geass vs Geass title means.

[Church]

Yeah, Kira at least decides to do something, even if it's just blowing the arms/legs/etc off, Sukzaku on the other hand sits around looking confused, and regrets just about everything he does...

Next ep will definately be an interesting one...

O, and don't know if anyone's seen this, but I found it pretty amusing
http://www.pizzahut.jp/whatsnew/041_070109_codegeass/

[kooshi]

The new OP is quite disappointing. I don't mind the song, but it's pretty much the first OP with a new song. I was really hoping for something completely new, but bleh, what a disappointment.

I certainly like how Lelouch continues his "path of carnage", especially after realizing he is responsible for all the killings that he and his group has done. Sacrificing the people in the boat just as a decoy is really low, but it's the outcome that really matters.... well, to him anyways.

As in agreement with everyone else here, Suzaku is EXTREMELY annoying. Heck, he whines so much about how Zero causes so much pain and suffering, but when he saw him eject from the mecha, he didn't even finish him off! WHAT THE HECK?! Sure, Karen was going after him, but while fighting her, Suzaku can just easily run towards the cockpit and crush it or something. I dunno, I'm just really annoyed by him, so my thinking might not be rational.