Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion

[Ryllharu]

In short, C.C. felt sorry for him. She too has extensive experience with being alone, and seeing a pathetic little boy, she took pity on him. Her relationship with him in the flashbacks seemed more like an older sister, or even pushing it, a mother. But with Lulu, they are a lot closer than Mao and she ever were. Their relationship has a very intimate light cast on it, no matter how much either of them denies it. They know all each other's secrets. The point is that Mao knows the secrets of everyone else, but he can never know C.C., especially the way Lulu already does after the Suzaku Brain Melt incident.

@Kraco: It's not the amnesia itself, but her apparent total personality change. Viletta's past appearances did not cast her in a light that would imply she'd be overly embarrassed about being seen naked, or at least, her reaction would be VERY different (like shooting Ougi in the face). She's turned meek, and lacks the scheming confidence she exuded when she confronted Shirley and right before she was shot. Innocence, I guess would be the way I would describe it. That's why I'm convinced, for the time being anyway, that she's not faking.

[Kraco]

I loved what Lelouch said about already having the parts of C.C. Mao hasnt even seen. Really nasty, but characteristically cool.

I wonder if C.C. will take that as a sign Leloch would actually like to have those parts in reality... Of course with Mao so obsessed, C.C. might not want Lelouch to turn that way.

Anyway, somehow I have hard time seeing any real pairing happening in this series. Of course partly because Lelouch is a bad guy in a certain and not too limited sense, but also because Shirley's memories are gone, and it could be said she's out of the picture now. I have felt since the beginning Karen will get killed at some point, possible saving Lelouch. And C.C. is the kind of character who will leave and disappear at the end, because she's something else than just a human, and doesn't belong among them. Who would that even leave?

[Ryllharu]

No one for Lulu, but Suzaku and Euphie obviously. Assuming Lulu doesn't try to kill Euphie to hurt Cornelia (He already could have, so I'm guessing he won't). Or that Cornelia kills Suzaku in disapproval, or Kallen kills Suzaku (crosses fingers).

But there is always the wildcard, Milly. She told him all about her Omiai and has jokingly mentioned her preferences for Lulu, in a "toy" kind of way.

I don't see Kallen getting killed, but I don't see her ever getting with Lulu. The only way I could see her getting killed is gunshot, since at this point she's pretty invincible in-cockpit. But you never know, this is Geass.

[Akeruri]

On Mao's "death":
I don't know; for all the introduction we got for Mao, the exit seems premature in my opinion. So, here I am saying that Mao isn't dead and somehow his long tenure of using his geass has enabled him to overcome gunshot wounds and heavy blood loss (a la C.C.'s ability). Classic Sunrise not explaining anything. He's not done in the series. I put my money on that.

On Shirley:
I thought Lelouch would've made arrangements for her to be transferred to some other school or something. I didn't expect her to show up around him... I didn't expect him to allow her to stay around him.

On pairings:
This may have been mentioned before, but I've always done some parallel between Geass and Gundam Seed to a certain degree - as in, just Kira x Lacus <==> Suzaku x Euphie - but Geass is going to show us a different kind of outcome. So, I imagine them eventually killing a Suzaku x Euphie tie through in a tragic and powerful way (whereas Kira x Lacus is all happy and sweet and lalala). So I sympathize with Ryllharu's wish of Suzaku getting killed.

Milly's dialogue with Lelouch this episode was a nice touch, in my opinion. It sheds light that Milly might some have feelings for Lelouch. Granted, it's too obvious to the viewers that a relationship between them would be too far-fetched.

On the next episode title:
...beginning of the end for Nunnally... I don't know... very ominous at least...

[RyougaZell]

Nice episode. Just saw it during lunch break at the office =P.

I found Mao's character quite interesting, despite the previous comments here or his small appearance.

Sure... he could be annoying but... hey... he was crazy. Hearing voices non-stop can make that to you.

His death scene, and when he shot CC were amazing, really well done. I myself flinched upon every shot CC recieved.

On another matters... I should have suspected Milly knew about Lelouch's past... she knew about Kallen after all.

Sadly no Kallen this ep =(

[Ryllharu]

Milly knew about Lulu's past because the Ashford family took him and Nunnaly in. They run the school, the appropriately named Ashford Academy, after all. They said this in the first episode I believe.

[shinta|hikari]

I heard about rumors about a season 2 before, does anyone know if they are true?

Im am still hoping for a Lelouch and C.C. pairing, since most of the intimate episodes are between the two of them. I know it will probably end in a separation or whatnot, but another tsukihime or fate stay night ending wouldnt hurt (in fact it would be sad, but infinitely great) Still, a happy ending would be nice, though unlikely.

Suzaku WILL die. If we all will it, it will come true, one way or the other. (wishful thinking)

Millys feelings for lelouch were obvious from the beginning, since the characterization of this anime is fairly harem-like, where most girls fall for the lead male character. You know, the one who helps the shy female character almost always has feelings for the same guy and all that.

Agreed on Mao. I dont think he was annoying, and I found him pretty interesting with the weird clapping action even when he was shooting C.C. I just hate him for hurting C.C., if he hadnt done that, I would have treated his demise as premature as well.

Kallen is invincible in the cockpit in-so-far-as the lancelot doesnt receive its new powerup. If it does, there is a very real possibility of defeat, then death.

EDIT: was there really no other reason for C.C. choosing Mao other than she felt sorry for him? If that is so, does that mean Lelouch was also chosen for a reason as shallow as that? I dont believe, at least in Lelouchs case, that it was such a simple reason, because C.C. actually appeared in Lelouchs past, and their second meeting has several characteristics that would imply a deeper connection.

[Ryllharu]

was there really no other reason for C.C. choosing Mao other than she felt sorry for him? If that is so, does that mean Lelouch was also chosen for a reason as shallow as that? I dont believe, at least in Lelouchs case, that it was such a simple reason, because C.C. actually appeared in Lelouchs past, and their second meeting has several characteristics that would imply a deeper connection.

Whatever motivation C.C. may have had to give Mao the Geass and attempt a contract, be it pity or a slight hope at him fulfilling the contract, he failed. I believe it is because she pitied him that she gave him Geass, of course not knowing what it would do, and how much it would hurt him in the end, starting to go psycho from hearing the thoughts of others all the time. Lulu on the other hand, was given the Geass because C.C. saw in him the conviction he had, and his desperate need for power (the dialog in the first episode says all this).

I don't honestly think it has anything to do with any past they may have had when Lulu was young. It was a spur of the moment thing. He saved her, she saw his hatred for Britannia, a goal apparently well in line with her own, and she felt it necessary to reward him with the power he needed to fulfill his wishes and her own.

[shinta|hikari]

Lulu on the other hand, was given the Geass because C.C. saw in him the conviction he had, and his desperate need for power (the dialog in the first episode says all this).

I don't honestly think it has anything to do with any past they may have had when Lulu was young. It was a spur of the moment thing. He saved her, she saw his hatred for Britannia, a goal apparently well in line with her own, and she felt it necessary to reward him with the power he needed to fulfill his wishes and her own.

Definitely wrong.

Even before Lelouch saved C.C. in the 1st episode, C.C. already felt that the one she had been waiting for has come (she actually says something like this even before Lelouch got in the truck.) Lelouch also saw a shadow (probably of C.C.) appearing on top of the crashed truck. It definitely has a deeper meaning than just gratitude for her being saved, or overlapping goals.

You should not forget, that C.C. did not decide to give geass to Lelouch AFTER she was shot (or in the spur of the moment), because the very reason she was shot was because she protected him (probably because she has already chosen him as her new partner).

As far as I know, C.C. doesnt have mind reading powers (since she actually asks Lelouch questions), so Lelouchs determination or goal would have been unknown to her before she gave him geass, which basically sinks the argument of that being her motivation.

The events that have happened in episode 1 strongly suggest that the previous meeting has a greater meaning than what you suggest. If they dont elaborate on this, it will prove to be a big plot hole, since all of the things I mentioned above would fall out of place.

[Mae]

CC may have felt sorry for Mao as a kid, but then why burden him with a Geass? It seems to be pretty poor judgment on her part. I'm going to speculate that only certain people can receive the Geass, and that CC is searching for them to... I dunno, something to be revealed later.

It was nice to see Lelouche questioning CC for a change as to what the hell she is up to. I can accept that he's grateful to her for enabling his revenge and so cuts her some slack for not revealing the details of their contract, although it does feel a little bit like Lelouche made a deal with the devil. What will she end up asking for? What if he doesn't want to give it to her?

Lelouche's excuse for the memory loss thing was pretty good, but it's really only buying some time. Someone is going to figure out something.

[Church]

Ok... my thoughts on the episode...
First up, I found this quite funny...

This isn't that big of a deal since this show keeps pushing the envelope *cough*EP12-Nian*cough*

Anyways, Mae looks pretty dead to me, I was kind of expecting a longer plot arc, but I guess this is fine too. Though knowing Sunrise he might miraculasly come back later...
I'm guessing Geass can only be given to certain people, since the power also varies among them.
Personally I'm for the CC x Lelouch pairing, but it's just as well if there are no pairings in this series.
I'm wondering when did CC leave Mao? Since CC was around Lelouch when he was young, does that mean she abandoned Mao a long time ago? Around 7 years, the start of the war? Or was Mao around too, not that it really matters, just curious.

[shinta|hikari]

I think rather than buying time, lelouch is planning to at least be friends again with Shirley to avoid extreme suspicion. Actually, Im surprised no one has noticed yet, since I doubt Lelouch would go around the school saying he had a fight with shirley and to go along with the charade.

Well, Lelouch already made a promise to C.C., and from what weve seen of Lelouch, he keeps his promises no matter what (ie Nunnaly). I am hoping though, that their goals would contradict at a certain point, just to add more spice to the story.

What you said about only certain people being able to receive geass makes sense, and maybe that is the reason she chose both Mao and Lelouch. But we can only assume, since no definitive proof has been revealed yet.

EDIT: the young lelouch and C.C. scene must have been after she went separate ways with Mao (I think she mentioned something about how long ago they split). Also, C.C. was wearing her present clothes in the scene with Lelouch, while different ones with Mao (I know its weak, but it is still something).

Also, my entire assumption that C.C. chose Lelouch from that point would go down the drain if she was still with Mao by then.

[animus]

Villeta has nice jugs.

[masamuneehs]

awesome episode. I'm sad to see Mao go so fast, I really have a soft spot for crazies... He's also provided me with two lol moments, the shotgun in ep14 and the chain-saw in ep15. I love the way he's so dependent on normal technology, even with an ability like his. Flawed characters are the best. Seeing his background made me pity the poor guy, and I was hoping he'd spread some more light on C.C. and her "contract" and goals

I am also baffled as to why C.C. came to give Mao a Geass in the first place. Perhaps she recognizes this potential in people at a very early age (like when she's watching Lelouch and Suzaku climb the hill. they can't be much older than 8 or 9 in that). Her motives are still totally unknown to me... I think there's alot in that first episode that I should go back and pay attention to. But yeah, C.C. giving that kind of power out of pity doesn't seem right. She is quite an emotional character, but I don't think she'd do that.

Viletta hentai will be mine tonight. The amnesia cop-out sucks... unless you're Ougi...

I still think Lelouch handled the Shirley thing poorly.

Where is Orange?

Finally, I was really surprised by Lloyd's being an earl. And yeah, I'm totally with the "anime prophet" Ryll on the Suzaku x Euphie pairing. Pink haired pacifist bitches should die, goddamn. Also convinced me that Viletta's amnesia is the real thing... but if I'm wrong, man she's one hell of an actor.

[shinta|hikari]

Amnesia cop-out sucks totally. It kind of ruined the whole suspense building around Villeta.

Right now, I also agree that Lelouch handled the Shirley thing poorly. I dont have problems with the memory erasal, just how he followed it up. A lie like that wont hold up for long, even if this is anime.

The pink haired pacifist bitch (singular since I love Lacus) should die protecting the oxymoronic pacifist killer, then the damn hypocrite should just commit suicide from guilt.

BTW, ep 16 totally OWNS.

[Ryllharu]

Amnesia cop-out sucks totally. It kind of ruined the whole suspense building around Villeta.

I agree on the first part, but I don't think it ruins any of the suspense around her. True, even Ougi was disappointed when it turned out Viletta had amnesia. But now we're left in the typical, "What moment will she suddenly remember everything?" Sure, it's cliche, it's overused, but this show has surprised us time and time again. Some of the suspense around her is diffused, but the more they show her in an amnestic state, the suspense starts building again. Yes, the suspense has broken once, but rule number one at managing suspense in a series, always relieve some of the suspense, so your audience won't suspect a thing.

[Board of Command]

Where is Orange?

I thought he died getting run over by a truck?

[Church]

I thought he died getting run over by a truck?

The truck stopped in front of him and then he collapsed... we still don't have any idea if he died or not.

[MFauli]

Ah, when is episode 8 being released? :-/
Im still waiting for SHS-Ureshi-version...

.mkv suckz >_<

[RyougaZell]

Ah, when is episode 8 being released? :-/
Im still waiting for SHS-Ureshi-version...

.mkv suckz >_<

With their fame... 2009.
Get over it.


I wonder when we will see every character that appeared on the first intro... like that girl I assume is the one who is helping the order from Kyoto.