After all, Ryuk came on earth out of boredom.Originally Posted by Yukimura
Maybe Rem and Ryuk are just there to have plenty of fun, by playing with their puppets...
After all, Ryuk came on earth out of boredom.
Maybe Rem and Ryuk are just there to have plenty of fun, by playing with their puppets...
Well, if people around Misa had suddenly started to die, I think it would have been more harmful for Misa than doing nothing and make it appear as if she isn't the second Kira after all or at least keeping some mystery surrounding the issue. And things would have been even worse if some invisible force would have released Misa from the... stand she was bound to, and broken cameras and such. At that point L & co would have contacted universities to get some multispectrum cameras, microwave radars, nuclear and magnetic resonance scanners and all that manner of jazz until they would have eventually gotten a sensor that could see the shinigami. And at that point you can bet the king of the shinigami would have punished Rem...
Well If Rem would kill the entire investigation crew, that wouldn't be a problem.
@Yukimura: Lifespan doesn't transfer to humans.
L breaching civil liberties? I thought everything he did was fine and dandy. Besides, he doesn't fall under any nation or official international body (not now that he's conducting the investigation on his own), so I can't imagine what 'civil' anything he'd be required to respect. At this point his is a refined (and quite upstanding) vigilante justice.
There's plenty of proof to hold Misa and 'investigate' her involvement with all these murders, at least from where I'm sitting.
Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
Once a Shinigami dies, their lifespans get added to the human's life that they saved. The only way for this to be possible, however, is for the Shinigami to have feelings for the human they are saving. This was explaining during that ep (don't remember the number) with Rem telling Misa how to kill a Shinigami.
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A Shinigami's lifespan getting added to the human they saved? That doesn't make sense. It's been a while since I read this in the manga, but what I understood back then was simply that the human's lifespan got extended. Why? Because they've just been saved, so that simple action extended their life. Else, wouldn't the human become immortal?
Ryuk explains that in the eyes EP , they use their eyes to find the names of and kill humans to get the human's remaining lifespans added to their own.
For example, if a person's natural life span is 60 years, and a Shinigami kills them at 40, then the Shinigami receives 20 years of life. It is because Shinigami, despite being god-like, can die natural death and have a lifespan of their own that eventually runs out.
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I see, I think I remember something like that. Thanks.
That should say Death god, that's why I misunderstood.
If it was intended for the person to die, they would have had no lifespan left. So the person has to get lifespan from somewhere.
I'll have to rewatch that ep, but I understood that:
Extending a human's life by using the DN is what causes the Immediate Death of a Shinigami.
In no way a Shinigami would do that, except that Love is apparently what would lead a Shinigami to do this. Probably because only Love is strong enough to make shinigamis do such a "silly" thing.
Really, it's important to rewatch that ep, but to me, a shinigami that would use the DN to save someone from Death, even when they do not love that human, will die.
The last hint was the question from Light to Ryuk, when he asked if Ryuk would do this for him (ie save Light using the DN)... when it normally should be obvious Ryuk doesn't love Light, and would never love him.
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Wonder what will happen to Light's grand ambitions.
He made a point of the fact that his memory did not dissapear after he discarded Rem. Maybe he can get back his memories somehow or Ryuk might come to him again and brief him.
I am also wondering about this. I know the series doesn't end here because its 37 episodes long. So i am wondering on how he will obtain his memory. Hmm, right now i am baffled good job Death Note, few animes do this to me.
Indeed. I guess something like this could have been expected ever since the discarding / memory loss method was for the first time mentioned, but I certainly never expected Light to discard his. Quite a risky game he's playing, for both his freedom (and life) and his ambitions, like el_boss said. Well, on the other hand, with the kind of ingenious script writing this story has, anything can happen and will have a more or less logical and believable causality.
Some random thought
Will you be immune to the Death Note if you get cosmetic surgery?
What decides what a persons name is? Let's say a person got a name at birth, but then got adopted and got a new name. Which name would be that persons real name? And what if a person legally changes his/her name.
Plausible answers:
For surgery: the last face is the one that counts. The face rule is just to be sure the right person will die.
For names:
I guess the name you see with the eyes is the name the person reacts to, the name they
truly think as theirs. Their intimate name.
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Then L would die easily if that was the case. He respondes to Ryuuzaki, Ryuuga en L
Nah. While 99.999% of people practically speaking only respond to their real name, there are also people who do smoothly use fake names. Undercover agents and other people under such circumstances. While they would respond normally when you call the fake name in a crowd, they know, themselves, that it's just a fake name. So, I doubt it would be enough for the Death Note.
In a hypothetical scenario some Soviet spy who was infiltrated into the US under false name and identity could be a gray case. When the Soviet Union collapsed - before he got caught - he, rather than returning to the chaotic Russia, decided to keep living his "fake" life in the US, continuing to use the fake identity. He could then be a case where the fake US name eventually would begin to replace the real Russian one without a conscious or official decision. And potentially could generate a period of time when he could be killed with either name with the Death Note.
I just think it's weird that something as arbitrary as a name has such a big influence in the death note. How do the divine forces decide how that persons name us spelled anyway?
The name should just be a fail safe for the safe and something to put in the book. I mean it should be enough if you know what a person looks like and you just write what you think their name is or something that represents them.
Well, things like "true names" have been around for a long time, especially in the fantasy literature. Often knowing someone's true name would allow some manner of power over him (or it). I guess in that respect it's not surprising to have much significance placed on a name in any story. It's also an existing tradition.
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