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    Well, since he's as eager to hunt down L as kill criminals, it's hard to predict what he's going to do and how far to go. He has already made it evident to L that he can access the police data. But that was only the beginning.

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    Another fine episode, Sucks to be the FBI agent if he dies afterwards since he's just decided not to investigate him anymore.


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    Not too bad an ep, although heavy on the dialogue, which can be a problem in series more focused on plotting and intrigue. As something of a super-hero like character Light doesn't have any physical abilities above the norm. His ability is basically "ok you die now" which doesn't typically lead to a lot of chases or gun fights. I also think makes what he does harder to condone compared to a vigilante who actually has to hunt down and fight the bad guys (Batman or something), although really the outcome is the same. It was also somewhat creepy watching him play with his power and being pretty unaffected by the deaths of those involved.

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    He's not a hero, but an anti-hero. Don't forget that essential fact. If you try to fit him into the mold of a traditional hero of most series, then your thoughs start to clash with the reality. The ideology of evil is different from that of the good guys. Yet often the most interesting villains are those who think they are doing the right things, that is, believe in what they are doing. You don't often have villains as main characters, and that's something that makes this series so sweet.

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    The way I see it Light wanted to know that guy's name so he would have the power to kill him if need be. Light is probably too smart to draw suspicion to himself by having the FBI agent tailing him die, since any accident happening to him would likely be linked to 'Kira' and make Light a prime suspect.

    Another aspect that I'd like to see explored is whether the Death Note can cause others to die along with the target. For example, If Light knew the name of both the pilot and copilot of an airplane and made them die, the passengers would likely die as well, but not directly as a result of the Death Note's influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mae
    It was also somewhat creepy watching him play with his power and being pretty unaffected by the deaths of those involved.
    Isn't that kinda a good thing? It means the anime is doing what it's supposed to be doing, telling an awesome story.

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    just finished watching episode 3 and 4 and i just have to say it's VERY scary how he can construct these scenarios and manipulate everything like a puppet...like even if he didn't have the death note as his weapon he'd still be a guy you wouldn't wanna cross..>.<

    yeah about the shinigami's eye thing, for a second at the end of ep 3 i thought light was actually gonna make the trade but yeah..it was pretty amusing to see ryuk's attempt to manipulate light into making the deal fail aswell. Where he chose THAT moment to tell light about the deal..cause like any other person would panic and accept the deal to get rid of the agent...but yeah i guess you can't manipulate the master of manipulation lol...

    lol at first i couldn't tell if ryuk was dissapointed cause you can't really see any expressions on his goofy face but yeah then he came up with the comment how light always ''gives him trouble with that kind of stuff''

    can't wait for the next ep, this series is brilliant!
    it is always the darkest before the dawn...

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    i loved how they did the bus scene. solid gold all the way around. I also like how they drew Penbar, something about his character design just really strikes me.

    Boo Raito! Hooray L!

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    Live-Evil just released and this time faster than TW!

    Episode 5 - Live-Evil

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    man I loved this episode. The train scene was great, especially the end of it. Raito is such a dirty bastard, saying all that shit to his father about "If anything happens to you, I'll hunt down Kira myself". He's truly disgusting...

    I really don't see Raito/Light as an anti-hero at all. I think of anti-heroes as those who do virtuous things, good things, but lack traditional heroic characteristics or motivation. Raito is almost the opposite. The things he does are evil (my personal belief here, obviously this is where fans will disagree, and it's one of the things that makes this stoy awesome)

    But at the same time Raito has almost all of the characteristics of the typical hero. He truly believes what he is doing is heroic. His intentions are to help others, make the world a better place, all heroic to the utmost. Thinking about it this way he's an anti-anti-hero. I like to think of it as a protagonist being a villian, one of the things I really like about Death Note.

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    And TW finally released

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    Quote Originally Posted by masamuneehs
    I really don't see Raito/Light as an anti-hero at all. I think of anti-heroes as those who do virtuous things, good things, but lack traditional heroic characteristics or motivation. Raito is almost the opposite. The things he does are evil (my personal belief here, obviously this is where fans will disagree, and it's one of the things that makes this stoy awesome)

    But at the same time Raito has almost all of the characteristics of the typical hero. He truly believes what he is doing is heroic. His intentions are to help others, make the world a better place, all heroic to the utmost. Thinking about it this way he's an anti-anti-hero. I like to think of it as a protagonist being a villian, one of the things I really like about Death Note.
    Well, before this most recent episode he no doubt would have fitted any definition of anti-hero, since he had only killed criminals. Nowadays anti-hero often refers to main characters that do what main characters usually do but in a clearly unorthodox manner and only following their own code of honour and morals, caring little of what are the norms of the society.

    However, after this episode he's a clear villain in my opinion. In society's eyes he's a criminal and he liquidated the law enforced seeking for him. That's as clear a sign of being a villain as any. Few works really have true villains as main characters, and thus such characters are often called just anti-heroes, no matter how far they are from any heroic traits...

    I don't honestly know if Light really believes he's doing heroic things. I think he just doesn't care. Surely he believes killing the criminals is the only way to go, but I don't think he considered killing the FBI agents as heroic. It was just necessary and doable. And perhaps he also simply enjoys the game with L. He already knows he's damned, himself, so it doesn't anymore matter how many names he adds to the list.

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    Well, I kinda agree with the reasoning behind the FBI agent killings. I would say that Light killed them because they were impeding his work, and they were getting to close to his real life. In most cases of the "betterment of the world" the ends justify the means. If some just people had to be killed for the greater good, so be it. It isn't necesaraly that Light is bad or evil, but has already come to this conclusion.

    I'm very curious about L's mindset about this. I can tell that he has a very clear and stong sense of justice, like Light. I'm really curious about why he does what he does thou. This series' story is amazing, so I'm sure the rest wont disappoint.


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    His mindset is pretty simple. he never killed them, the other agent did. Im sure Light is twisted enough to see logic in that perspective. Not to mention that things are starting to get fucked up with the female ex-FBI that he doesnt know about, so I think Light will start losing control over his game soon enough, which probably will make him resort to true crime.

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    Once more I have to disagree with you, ?igma. Only a mentally very weak person would make excuses like he didn't kill them but the agent who actually wrote the names. That wasn't an act to shift the blame but a method dictated by the whole plan how he got the names and the faces connected to each other conveniently. He already knows the limits of the book somewhat, and that was probably as far as he could stretch them in that situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Once more I have to disagree with you, ?igma. Only a mentally very weak person would make excuses like he didn't kill them but the agent who actually wrote the names. That wasn't an act to shift the blame but a method dictated by the whole plan how he got the names and the faces connected to each other conveniently. He already knows the limits of the book somewhat, and that was probably as far as he could stretch them in that situation.
    WEll, yeah, Im highly doubting it myself hihi, but its so typical to put something like that in as an excuse :P Secretly I hope he didnt think it like that ^^

    Cant go offensiveh ere, since youre probably right

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    Ah, good to see that there's a thread here about Death Note (as expected)
    I ran into it at some point and got sucked in from ep 1. and conveniently dragged my boyfriend in with me

    We are now both Death Note addicts ^.^

    So, for the reviewness..

    Ep 5 was great, as usual. I love how Light always manages to twist things around in a way that it's convenient for him, while at times taking large risks.
    I'm curious as to how the female ex-FBI thing will work out, and how things will go with L.

    Will stay tuned

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    Yes just out by Live-Evil!

    Episode 6 - Live-Evil

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    first: I love how they did L. All the constant fidgeting and scratching, the awkward posture and sitting, dead on. Like a dog with fleas... but smart as hell...

    His voice is also pretty good, and I really am pulling for him. While Raito has already shown that he doesn't care if he kills wrongfully, L takes great pains to avoid causing casualties. But masa, don't you normally pull for the villains? That's true, but that's almost always in fantastical animes, especially where the line between good/evil is so stark and cliched. But here you have a much more realistic mix of personalities.

    Besides, I hate the egotistical, straight A, self-centered type that Raito represents... besides, only a bastard could kill someone's fiance, meet her, and have the guts to act like it's a tragedy, just so he can get info to kill her off with...

    oh, also noticed that Aizawa (investigator with the big hair) is voiced by the same guy who does Holland in Eureka7, Nathan in Blood+, Irvine from the original Zoids and Reno in Final Fantasy. Great that they pulled out a high-profile VA for that role

    God that scene where Raito is roping Mika in is a killer. It's like watching a horror movie where someone goes down into the basement, alone, and goes to investigate a strange noise in the darkest corner... The audience is like: "Youre gonna get killed bitch! Don't do it!"

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    Great episode, as expected from Death Note.

    I love how Light starts as a guy who kills criminals to make the world a better place, but begins to spiral downward by killing innocent people, in effect becoming more like the killers and convicts he's passing judgement on.

    L has got to be one of the coolest characters I've seen so far. Brilliant deductive mind; odd quirks (lol I don't think I could ever sit like that for an extended period of time).

    I also love it when they boil all the colours down to Black White Blue and Red. I dunno, there's just something about it I find really appealing.


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