But wasn't Raki easy to agitite? You know, tell him whatever bullshit to fool him or something ?
But wasn't Raki easy to agitite? You know, tell him whatever bullshit to fool him or something ?
little soul your dreams are waitin'
crapping up...
hold them closely
never let go, never let go... <3
Claymore Chapter 77 [FH]
New chapter is out.
EDIT: The last few chapters have been a little underwhelming, but this is a big one.
[content continues below, end of my post is the end of the spoilers]
Clarice proves her worth, we see Miata's face and help finally comes.
They've finally humanized Miata a little bit. We get to see her face finally. It makes her seem even younger than she looked before. Maybe we'll even see a bit of mental maturing in her. Mostly due to Clarice accepting her fully at last. It's also clear that Miata is a defensive warrior, yet she still has that enormous offensive potential.
Their comparison between Clarice and Claire becomes even more pronounced. Clarice, lowest ranked, largely powerless, a "failed" Claymore. Yet, when it all comes down to it, she'll still try and kill Agatha. Granted, she was on the other side of the rogue Claymore with Galatea, and she has Miata to care for.
It's not like Clare is anything like she used to be now...
I for one am very interested in how this little affair will turn out now. The seven will want to ally themselves with Galatea, so there is no way in hell that Clarice and Miata will be able to complete their mission. Unless it is in an act of betrayal during an unguarded moment, once again connecting with the past.
Though I imagine the continued existence of the seven would be far more important to the Organization.
Last edited by Ryllharu; Wed, 02-06-2008 at 07:27 PM.
Man, I so love badass last page entrances. That last page was just awesome, with the mysteriousness the others exuded behind their cloaks.
I was hoping Clarice would just run away though, since it would be new and different for the wimpy reject to not magically grow a pair and decide to fight the hopeless fight before they get saved on the next page. That said it's worth it for the character development on Miata, she's said so many words besides mama this chapter, I'm impressed. But from the things that she did say and they way she instantly regenerated her arms with out even trying creeps me out significantly more than Priscilla did, she'll need someone like Clarice to keep her from following that same path.
Last edited by Yukimura; Thu, 02-07-2008 at 11:00 AM.
boring and predictable chapter imo, i especially hate the last page, and no this is no sarcasm, to think i have been waiting a month for this whining ><
but now i know next months gonna be boring too :S
damn it, I'm missing all the fun having my computer being repaired for 10 days. Sucks being me
Ecxept for the whinny parts and the sooooo predictible events, I still want to know what will happen in the next chapter ^^!
I still get this feeling that Galatea (that's actually a nice name!), somehow stubbornly, wont join the seven. She did say that she like the city....or something.
little soul your dreams are waitin'
crapping up...
hold them closely
never let go, never let go... <3
She may as well be curious enough to follow them, in order to understand that new power they posess.Originally Posted by Chiodos
After all she's the best at controlling yoki, but it seems she never tried going to the limit and exploit that surge of power, although she helped Claire going back once.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Also important to note that Galatea had absolutely no idea what happened (she said exactly that). Given Galatea's previously absurd Yoki sensing ability, that became overwhelmingly better when she blinded herself, she only noticed that something had happened because Agatha's Yoki responded from the pain. Even with her now-advanced abilities, she wasn't able to hurt Agatha at all while fighting Miata. However, whomever hurt Agatha did so without any Yoki at all. That would be very interesting to Galatea.
Clare and the other six didn't register at all. They may even be better at it than Rafaela was.
Someone like Galatea, a fugitive of the Organization, would be very interested in that kind of skill.
Finally. It's been quite a while since we last saw Clare and gang. Hopefully we'll get to see some character development, especially with the survivors which we didn't get to know more about.
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
Hmm... I'm happy to see Clare back finally. I am assuming it was Clare who attacked since she's the only one with Ties to the city I think.
I am also wondering that everytime Clare got closer to awakening, more so since she defeated Rigardo(sp?). Going that far willingly, has me thinking that there is some new limit and that the partially awakened power, carries over to Clare in normal mode now?
If so, wouldnt she already be the strongest Claymore?
Ya, I was surprised Galatea was not able to ascertain what happened and was dumbfounded I guess, lol.
Quite possible. Like exercising to build muscle. I think that Clare's fight with Miria right before they left the North proved that. Miria would be the strongest Claymore up there, when they began, but she only got stronger by perfecting a rapid-movement technique that required no Yoki. Slower, but there was no longer a limit on how often she could use it.
Clare borrowed the Windcutter technique from Flora. Slower than the Flash Sword, but a lot stronger. She has also been practicing it for 7 years. We don't know how long Flora had been perfecting it. Clare did not have too much trouble fighting Miria, something she could never come close to before.
Clare is at least as strong as a much stronger Miria. I would hesitate to say stronger. I believe the only things they could not beat singlehandedly are Abyssal Ones and Alicia/Beth.
I don't think it is due to anything involving her partial Awakening or Yoki. It's just hard training. The same that Rafaela did in all her years of exile, making her the most fearsome assassin within the Organization.
Reading this, there's an important factor arising: Time
A regular Claymore has 1, 2 or 3 years before they awaken?
Top 10 ones a little more?
You're true to mention training, because now Clare has been a claymore for 8 to 10 years if I'm correct. The same goes for her comrades.
Meaning they are with abysmal ones, those with the longest experience with their powers.
We don't know for sure for Galatea, wether or not she's been to her limits. To me she didn't because her abitility to control her Yoki is too strong, thus stopped her far before going to the edge.
But she's been living for a long time too as a Claymore now. So she's at the top of what a Claymore can be before awakening or going to the edge.
Regarding Clare, we have to remember she has a part of Teresa in her.
Teresa was very strong without using her Yoki. So she maybe inherited that trait after working it for a long time.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
It has nothing to do with years of service. Her friend from training, Elena, in the second or third chapter was starting to awaken because she used her powers too often, and began to lose control. Clare did not use her Yoki nearly as much, and as such, did not come close to Elena's plight.
Clare figured out from her experiences with Ophelia and Ilena it has nothing to do with time, and everything to mental self control. It's the reason Clare and the other semi-Awakeneds still have not.
No strain on the senses, no chance to Awaken.
Just like Clare and the other six, Galatea has not been using her powers while hiding as a nun.
it's become pretty hard to set the strengh levels in claymore-verse.. but i'll try anyway.
the weakest members are obviously normal humans - soldiers, bandits, peasents, they tend to get eaten within a chapter or so,
next up are youmas and normal (weak)claymore, who I think are quite equal, at the beginning Clare was usually told to wait for back-up to arrive, and some youmas have exprience fighting claymores, which means that their power level is compitable.
next are the higher claymores, which can beat normal youmas by themselves, but need to gang up to fight an awakened being,only the top ten could probably kill an AwB alone.
now's the tricky part.
Miria needed Claire's help to win over the male AwB back then, but males were said to be stronger. But still, the guy they fought couldn't compare to Duff, who was #3 in his time, So Galeta is stronger than Miria at the same multitude Duff was stronger than that AwB.
That covers most of the story until the time skip.
Alica and Beth are just as strong as the abyssal ones. they can take out a few AwBs on thier own.
Miata can do the same, but probably on a smaller multitude, she has won over 5 Awbs, but she got in trouble with them and almost lost. so I guess she's weaker than "the black ones"
Claire and co. at least so far, still fight AwBs together, it might be a perssonality thing, but I don't think any of the team would single-handedly fight a few awakened alone.if I had to compare them, I'd say that the team could beat Rigald without losing key members, but none of the girls could fight him alone.
Galeta, while she did get a level-up as an "Eye", probably didn't increase her fighting skills much, so now she's at the same lvel as claire and miaria.
so in short, I think the Miata can kick Claire's sweet ass.
Good analysis.
Of course Galatea was much stronger than Miria. She was rank 3 vs. rank 6. Only Alicia and Beth were above her in rank, and our favorite evil loli, Riful laughingly joked that the Organization created an Abyssal One by making Alicia and Beth, so there were still 4 Abyssal Ones in the world even with Lucelia's death.
But I do disagree with one thing. Galatea couldn't beat Duff. The only reason she was doing as well as she was is due to Duff being downright retarded. Once Riful called him stupid and keyed him in on Galatea's trick, Duff was doing a fine job of kicking her ass.
They did say earlier on with her that Miata has the potential to be Rank 1 with ease. (Assuming regular ranking without Alicia and Beth.) She's just too crazy and uncontrollable, so they left her at #4. Now she appears to have gained her sanity back, and I'm guessing here from them finally showing her face. I assume that it is symbolic of her regaining a little humanity. So she may still need to cling to Clarice, but she's probably back on track to being #1.
The question remains where Clare herself stands. Now, if it was Galatea, or any other normal Claymore, I'd say she could kill them no problem. But Miata still fights on instinct, with her "sixth sense." In short, she fights exactly like Priscilla. So with Clare already the inheritor of Teresa's legacy, they may set up a fight between them.
However, Clare "inherited" abilities from a lot more people, is already beyond her limits in Yoki should she use it (though from the Extra chapters, we know how diluted Teresa's true power became when put into Clare), and has had years to practice. Miata on the other hand, has all the stability in her relationship with Clarice that Priscilla never had.
You make a lot of good points, but I don't know, my money is still on Clare.
Claymore 78 is out and translated. So far I can only find it on Mangatraders so if you don't have an account make one and get it, this chapter was awesome.
Claymore on MT
Last edited by Yukimura; Mon, 03-03-2008 at 12:38 PM.
OH MY FUCKING GOD....
This chapter was like the ultimate fight ever. SO freakin' awesome I can't believe it. And excuse me kids for saying this but I almost got a hard on while reading, it was just insane. Won't spoil any before more people gets to read and post their freakin' awesome experiences as well though
Awesome just isn't giving this chap enough credit. Seeing this in anime action would be so cool, it was so good it felt like anime action.
Thanks for introducing a subbed version so early Yukimura, major props. Awesome.
The only downside to this chap is that it ended. :P
Ps. a tip for everyone with a PS3. Start reading manga on your PS3, the zoom function as well as the page-change is so smooth there really isn't a better way of reading manga. Plus you can do it in your bed without problems :P
online reading:
http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/78/
Direct Dl "ala rapidshare"
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QFZ7OMFA
A torrent should be available soon I guess
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
man that was sexy....that comment about galateas hair....fucking sexy.haha ya me too...if this was porn, i would've blown my wad at pg 30.I almost got a hard on while reading, it was just insane.
This was definately a great end to this fight. I can't wait to get more character development on the 7 now. According to miata they're all strong. And she's doesn't seem like the type to call anyone ranked below her 'strong'. So my guess is that all of the 7 at atleast as powerful as Miata. Probably more if you dont include her instinct/sixth sense. Clare and Miria for sure are way stronger then any claymore out there rite now (with the exception of Alicia and Beth). Im really curious now about what they'll do with galatea.
Btw, that group of claymores that took on Riful after the time skip...does anyone remember thier numbers? I know they were all single digit, and pretty high up. Was the current #3 among them? In anycase, even the weakest of the 7 was stronger then them, so its safe to say that they're all reasonably badass now.
***There will be spoilers in this post, beware***
Yuh, totally, the hair was the pinnacle for sure.... and (spoiler) when she cut up the arm in pieces and number 2 was like, what the fuck just happened... that was sooo freakin' cool. Clare was just acting like the AB was some small fry.
Oe question though, did they still not use youki? It seemed like they did't but there seemed to be some mention of it or something. maybe it's just that the small girl (miata?) is just awesome when it comes to recognizing skills.
And what was also soooo cool was how... was it cynthia?... that was guiding them throughout the batlle, basically telling the rest where to slice and dice. It even seemed like she topped Galateas reading skills, or at least matched them.
***End of spoiler***
I believe they were rank 3 and 5. the defensive one being numer 3 and the short tempered
guylike clueless brat was number 5. Other than that, there were no other single digit there I think, just around 10-25 or something like that.
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