Naruto was the only one who bothered looking in the Hokage cavern? 30 years, and no one found an exploding tag? Dragonfly village? wtf?
Naruto was the only one who bothered looking in the Hokage cavern? 30 years, and no one found an exploding tag? Dragonfly village? wtf?
Wow... not really sure what to say. How some of you can find this to be one of the best arcs is beyond me.
Apparently exploding tags can last for 30+ years? Apparently no Uchiha or Hyuga is capable of seeing the plethora of said tags for said amount of years? Apparently it's okay for children to throw kunai at a target that can blow the hell out of Konoha, since the genins and even Shikamaru are on crack cocaine or have short-term memory and can't remember that they told them not to? Apparently Naruto cries like Charlie Brown!!!??
... Yeaaaah.
Complete and utter garbage. What Genma said. Also, the constant silly plot twists (which only Shikamaru can figure out apparently, YEAH WE GET IT HE'S THE SMART GUY) which the good guys always manage to figure out just in the nick of time is incredibly annoying.
Well it would be bad if the children had to go home when it's dark and- OH SHIT OF COURSE THE TAGS ARE SIDETRACKING US GODDAMNIT I SEE IT CLEARLY NOW
I agree, the plot writing squirrels are clearly running out of names to use.
I mean really, dragonfly??? wtf??
I was totally expecting Naruto to rip a juicy one while Naruto was reaching for the tag with Hinata RIGHT BEHIND HIM!Originally Posted by BioAlien
that was another great episode, so far this arc is really good(ending filler with this arc would be the best thing to do). i just hope they don't screw up, like in the bug arc (finish with naruto farting)
How much more of a perfect situation do you need for a fart joke?
I was kinda disappointed when it didn't happen.
Old man's trying to make the explosive tags form his face nearby the other hokages ones.
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It's a sign that the fillers have greatly lowered our expectations if people are saying this is a good arc. I wonder if we went back and watched the tea arc now, if we would think it was well made due to these new fillers being completely worthless.
The key word here is relative quality between the filler arcs, not absolute quality or relative quality considering the whole series.
I've had my share of frustrations over the filler episodes, but some of you are trying way too hard to dislike them, simply because they aren't manga based. Yeah there are plot holes and ridiculous occurrences, but this episode (and arc) are still very watchable and enjoyable. I thought this was one of the best animated episodes since fillers began, and was even better than some of the original artwork (see Zabuza arc).
The "charlie brown" facial expressions? I guess you all must hate it when they go to goofy faces in Bleach then. I like the expressiveness of Naruto's facial features when he was really upset in this episode. Complaining about something like this and comparing it to that picture from Charlie Brown just shows that you people are watching these episodes expecting to hate it and looking for shit to complain about. I've said it once and I'll say it again, go find something else to waste your lives on.
I can't believe this arc still isn't over....but I guess it won't make a difference when it does finally end since it would seem they have even more filler for us to enjoy.
And I guess the only explanation they could possibly have for a Hyuuga clan member never seeing these tags in a 30 year time span is they wouldn't see them if they weren't looking specifically for exploding tags.
personally thats enough to ruin it for me, but to each his own.
honestly the only reason I bother watching naruto right now is so I will be able to know when its back to the manga. but its not that I have a "if its not manga its not naruto" kind of attitude, I could care less if it was in the manga or not, but filler is rarely as good as the manga.
basicly the reason why is that anyone making the manga can do just about anything they want to make the show interesting. but filler writers would be like "this idea would be interesting, but it would cause consistincy problems when we try to go back to the manga." so they usually just end up making simple plots that have no real impact on the characters, which makes it very hard to be entertaining at the same time. they also use filler characters which that have no real place in the world of naruto, that we know will just pop out of nowhere, get a breif backstory explained on them, then disappear forever at the end of the filler arc. which is not always completely pointless but it just isnt the same as the real deal.
an example of why the real thing is better, in the manga based part of the anime, the 3rd died. this kind of thing is very interesting, but something of that magnitude would never ever happen in a filler. we also thought for a while that neji and chouji (sp?) had died. It was a hot topic debating weither or not they would survive, and made the anime exciting, because something major was happening to characters we actually cared about. they ended up surviving, but if it was in a filler, we would know from the start that they would have pulled through.
nah, not really. when they do the goofy face style expressions in bleach its usually because its a silly moment going on and the expression suits it.
but in this naruto episode they werent even trying to make it goofy but it ended up looking rediculous anyway. the animation also only used 3 frames. not only did each one look rediculous on its own but the transition between them wasnt very smooth, in fact there was no transition at all. they just flicked back and forth between them and it looked far too obvious we were not looking at a real moving object.
in other words, instead of drawing the mouth open, partly open, half closed, almost closed, and closed they just flicked back and forth from open to closed, and it looked like something out of a low budget 1970's cartoon. it reminds me of that episode of family guy where peter badmouths the network, then he "walks" to the kitchen without being animated.
Last edited by redcat; Fri, 09-15-2006 at 02:59 PM.
I see what redcat is doing. He's trying to make us hate him less by disagreeing with someone else that everyone here hates.
I see right through your schemes!
Also, Dragonfly is one of the better names they've come up with. I mean, it's got Dragon in it. That's like +10 Ninja Points right there.
Awwww, you guys don't like me? Is it because I won't let you cry on my shoulder like your mommy would? Poor things, having to suffer all of this bad filler anime, there there. It'll be ok little girl.
This arc definitely is pointing to some kind of change in the direction of the Naruto anime, probably leading back to the manga-based episodes. I, for one, will be greatly relieved, if for nothing else than it means you all (probably, hopefully) will have nothing to whine about. Oh who am I kidding, you'll find something else to whine about the series then.
Do not double post. There's an 'edit' button right next to Quick Reply, make use of it!
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All valid points, but why is it that everyone understands some of the limitations that the filler writers have, but can't wait to tear them apart every episode?
Sure they could do a better job even with the limitations they have, but if they were all as talented at storytelling as Kishimoto, they wouldn't be staff writers at some studio, they'd be world-famous mangakas creating their own mangas. Shit, most of this filler is probably being made in Korea anyway.
The problem with animating on-going works, especially with each anime episode covering multiple chapters of manga, is that you will catch up sooner than later. So what should they do? Stop showing Naruto until more manga is available? Maybe only show episodes every other week? Maybe start making up anime that conflicts or diverges from the manga? The experts on this forum are so good at deconstructing everything that the studios try to do, but no one has any constructive answers for the dilemnas they face in the business they are in. Sheesh.
The fact that you don't know how use the edit button and not double post isn't exactly an endearing quality.
If coming up with great plots was so easy that regular posters here could do it in the mere minutes it takes to write a post, then we would all be great authors known throughout the world - according to you. Still, I'm pretty sure there are quite a few people here who could have written plots for far more interesting fillers than we have seen, had they been paid and given enough time to.
So, who here would spend days to come up with a - for example 20-30 episodes - believable, interesting and deep filler arc just to prove other random forum members that it could be done? That's what the filler script writers are paid to do. Not us. Yes, it's bloody easy to criticize other people's work, but, you know, it's even easier to use the oh-so-cliched phrase "You don't like it? Do it better yourself!" At least intelligent criticizing takes effort, typing that phrase is just copying the dude who first said it back when the ancient Egyptians were in power.
the first 2 options would be fine for me, but they are simply going to do whatever makes them the most money. but I dont really care what they do. as far as my hard drive knows, there is no naruto filler. the 3rd option is a dangerous one that killed the first hellsing anime. correct me if im wrong but wasnt it originally planned to be 26 episodes?
Only thing about this ep that I didn't like was that Neji didn't get a chance to do anything besides be a lookout. It did have its good parts though like seeing Jiraiya lead a squad to destroy the dragonfly village. And seeing Tsunade back down from the other old lady.
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How is it double-posting if each post is a reply to a different person's post? If I make one mega long post where I address multiple posters' comments, chances are interesting tidbits will be skimmed past.
But a rule's a rule I guess.
@Kraco: nice way to cop out. I didn't say anyone here could do a better job. That would be giving waaay too much credit. All I'm saying is that the bitching and whining is getting tiresome again. I guess it's all a product of people believing someone when they say the fillers are ending at such and such episode, only to feel jipped when they continue. Your own fault for that, no need to trash a decent episode cause you're gullible.
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