Bleach 96 Discussion

[DeathscytheVII]

The peasant thing is just an excuse to eat up time IMO....im still very curious as to how Kariya is hoping to destroy the death gods. He only fought one captain so far and thats just a stalemate. Theres the general captian too.

OOO i can't wait for a future hitsugaya fight hehe.

What I hate about this arc (and fillers in general) is the way the supporting cast is reduced to nothing roles. Characters like Chado and Inoue are basically dumbed down, and a whole slew of uninteresting and generally obnoxious new characters are introduced (Ririn, Claude, etc). I understand the necessity of this, since you don't want to develop the characters in ways contrary to the manga, but it's still frustrating and there has to be a better solution.

I know eh...i mean, aside from attacking dolls and not the human guy standing there, there's also the great moment when Ishida opens the gate to SS and tells them that he did it because he was more powerful there. Then he gets told that the bounto gets more powerful there too ROFL. His reaction is so not equal to the stupidity of that move

but hey..we get death god captains not complainign here.

[Animeniax]

Yep, seeing Hitsugaya go bankai against the Old Man's whale doll will kick some ass.

I seriously hope Ichinose won't use some cheap doll when fighting Zaraki Kenpachi. I want to see an all out slice and dice between these two.

Kraco: remember, even a non-bankai Ichigo beat Zaraki during the SS arc, and that was when Zaraki had removed his patch. Unless Zaraki has gotten a lot stronger since then, I think Ichinose can challenge him. I don't see him winning, but it would still be entertaining to see him get wailed on by Zaraki.

[Kraco]

Kraco: remember, even a non-bankai Ichigo beat Zaraki during the SS arc, and that was when Zaraki had removed his patch. Unless Zaraki has gotten a lot stronger since then, I think Ichinose can challenge him. I don't see him winning, but it would still be entertaining to see him get wailed on by Zaraki.

That was basically a battle of who can release more reiatsu at once. I doubt Ichinose would have a chance in such a battle, because both Ichigo and Zaraki are supposed to be pretty unique in that respect: They have enormous amounts of reiatsu at their disposal.

However, Kenpachi is only interested in good fights, not really defending the SS or anything trivial like that. So in theory he might give Ichinose a chance willingly, to make the fight more interesting.

[dragonrage]

@ kraco & Animenaix :

Yep that was a battle of fighting spirit and reiatsu, as Kraco said. Also I believe that Ichigo's power is directly linked to his resolve. The stronger his resolve the more powerful he is, in this arc his mind seem to be scattered and unfocused. Also I would like to mention that so far all we have seen from Ichinose was the illusion technique, which can go either way he can be stronger or that all he has. But I would like to remind you that, that doesn't really work on Zaraki, remember his fight with the two captains.

He is driven by the adrenaline (can't think of a better word at the moment). The more dangerous the situation becomes the more he loves it and is driven by it. Also he is alot more powerful than you might think, last time he was actually fighting against his sword rather than with it.

And back to the fight between Ichigo and Zaraki, Ichigo wasn't exactly alone. He had a stronge resolve to save his friends: especially Rukia, Zangetsu was guiding him and also that demon inside of him was present too. Lets not forget the ending of that battle. What did the reiatsu take the form off?

I am not putting Ichinose down or anything, but my money is on Zaraki. It is foolish to think that a person that wants to fight stronge enemies wouldn't get stronger when he knows he can and that there are stronger people out there. But we have to remember that this is a filler and he can't get any stronger than he has, so who knows.

@ Krcao alone: Zaraki killed Ichinose's mentor, captain and ambitions when he took the seat of the 11th captain and he does feel responsible for him leaving so I don't think he would do something like that. He is a blood thirsty manic, but he does have his honor and pride. I don't think he would do something like that.

[Animeniax]

That was basically a battle of who can release more reiatsu at once. I doubt Ichinose would have a chance in such a battle, because both Ichigo and Zaraki are supposed to be pretty unique in that respect: They have enormous amounts of reiatsu at their disposal.

However, Kenpachi is only interested in good fights, not really defending the SS or anything trivial like that. So in theory he might give Ichinose a chance willingly, to make the fight more interesting.

I'm not so sure about the basis of their first battle simply being who could release more spirit power, but in the end what you're saying is that spirit power translates to how much fighting ability they have (I think?). So if Ichinose can't keep up with Zaraki's reiatsu, does that mean he's not as skilled a fighter? Is reiatsu like chakra? Ninjas in Naruto can be skilled fighters regardless of their abilities with chakra. Can Shinigami be skilled fighters regardless of their amount of reiatsu?

[Mizuchi]

Zaraki will win 99%.

1. Zaraki can't die in a filler
2. Ichinose must either die or leave SS before the filler ends.

Although there is still a smal 1% that ichinose might beat zaraki and right before the final blow, they spend an entire ep on how ichinose cried because his mentor died, but then will either forgive zaraki and turn on the bounto or kariya will just no longer need a shinigami and will take down ichinose himself. Then ichigo will make a big deal on how he turned on his allies, will make a resolve... again... and the final battle will begin. The funny thing is, is that I just made that story up as I was typing, and now that I think of it, it might actually have a good chance of happening imo.

[Kraco]

Hardly anybody died even during the SS arc, so Zaraki dying no matter what happens is pretty much out of question even theoretically. He could lose a fight without dying. But if he loses a fight against Ichinose, I will sacrifice dragonrage's left hand to the Great Old Ones.

[Animeniax]

Hardly anybody died even during the SS arc, so Zaraki dying no matter what happens is pretty much out of question even theoretically. He could lose a fight without dying. But if he loses a fight against Ichinose, I will sacrifice dragonrage's left hand to the Great Old Ones.

That's a major disappointment for me about Bleach, the lack of people dying. People get cut to shreds and bleed buckets, but not even minor characters have died (except in flashbacks like with Kaien and his wife). Did Hinamori really have to be saved? She's pretty useless as is.

What did Yachiru mean when she said that Kenpachi can't lose back in the SS arc? It was either that, or that he couldn't die. Is she delusional?

[dragonrage]

Hardly anybody died even during the SS arc, so Zaraki dying no matter what happens is pretty much out of question even theoretically. He could lose a fight without dying. But if he loses a fight against Ichinose, I will sacrifice dragonrage's left hand to the Great Old Ones.

lol, I will be eagerly awaiting the outcome then. Him dying during a filler is rediculious and insane if something like that happens I will stop watching bleach cause those morons (writers) would be purely fucking stupid and not worth my time to watch any further. Also he is one of my favorite characters and him dying in that way is to idotic to imagine, in a filler, laughable.

Kraco if he dies you will be missing a left nut.