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    It's likely the Mai arc is drawing near the conclusion, but let's enjoy it while it lasts:

    Episode 14 h264 - SS-Eclipse
    Episode 14 xvid - SS-Eclipse

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    Another beautifully done episode, no show has ever taken me on this level of emotional roller coaster. The details, the actions and reactions of the characters, everything just feels amazingly well put together.

    The Saiyuri back story was very nice, and now I finally understand why I hear the word Saiyuri in nearly every sentence Saiyuri utters, she's talking in the third person...I really wish the translators made that more evident.

    Something else that's been bugging me, several of the characters seem to have a trademark sound they make often. Auu for Makoto, Uguu for Ayu and Ahaha for Saiyuri. Makoto turned out to be a magic fox, and demons seem to like chasing Saiyuri around. Also all three 'lost ' something in the past which they seem to be looking for. I'm starting to think that the creator gave distinctive sounds to the characters that would have plots weaved around them, meaning that a fairly deep Ayu plot is probably in the future, however Shiori doesn't have any distinctive sound that I have noticed but she seems to be roiling for a plot of her own. So maybe I'm wrong...
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    So far all the background stories have been really good. While Sayuri's perhaps is more traditional, and didn't immediately seem connected to Yuiichi, it explained her personality finely; how she is a real ojousama yet is so kind and generous.

    I don't think the sounds are particularly significant in that manner. Most of them are likely just cute sounds present often in certain kinds of manga and anime. I guess they are very evident in this one, though, as was the case also with Air, where it was underlined even more. Now we only have Yuiichi sometimes making fun of those pseudo words. I'd say at bottom they are just moe elements.

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    I don't think there's all that much significance to their sounds. Most of them have one, or something that counts for one. Shiori puts a lot of emphasis and a lilt on '-san' ("Yuu-ichi-san~"), Nayuki has her sleepy noises, and Mai, Mai is well...deadpan.

    Sayuri's backstory provides a huge amount to her character and her relationship to Mai. Even if it's a tragic traditional one, it was really moving. I'm not going to deny it made me cry.

    Mai's breakdown in the construction yard was another very moving scene from this episode. There's a lot of pain and loneliness that makes Mai who she is apparently. I can't wait to see where they take this.

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    When I saw Sayuri entering the school I knew something was gonna happen to her but I didn't want to think about what. When I saw her laying there I did nearly cry O_o

    And Mai's breakdown was very well made. So much emotion. I can't wait untill next week.

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    An extremely well made episode.
    Im very glad the series got remaked, the previous one, while good, never had this depth of sentiment.

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    Actually, I hated the fact that this sequel was even made. I thought that money would have been better spent making the sequel for Full Metal Panic or Haruhi, and that Gonzo was wasting money on remaking what I found to be a poorly executed series.

    I was wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
    Actually, I hated the fact that this sequel was even made. I thought that money would have been better spent making the sequel for Full Metal Panic or Haruhi, and that Gonzo was wasting money on remaking what I found to be a poorly executed series.

    I was wrong.
    Since I didn't like FMP I disagree there (but hey! its a free world)

    Haruhi from the very start was planned for 14 eps. They never expected it to get so famous.

    Kanon was announced even before Haruhi started airing.

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    Full Metal Panic gets much much better in the next novels. It becomes a lot more serious and tragic, as well as realistic (well as realistic as their world can get).

    Im thinking more like since Haruhi did get so famous, they could have just delayed the release of Kanon, and focused more on one of the above. I guess that would indeed be unreasonable, since its probably already half made by then. But like you said, its a free world, I want what I want, it doesnt have to come true.

    But that was before I watched Kanon 2006. Haruhi and FMP are among my favorites, and the fact that I ceased hating Gonzo after watching Kanon 2006 really is something, especially for a remake (I never usually watch such things).
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    Why do you keep mentioning Gonzo? Kyoto Animation (KyoAni) is the company involved in FMP:TSR (Fumoffu and TSR only), the Kanon remake, and Suzumiya Haruhi. Gonzo was only involved on the first FMP.

    This is the Kanon thread, stop talking about other series and how bad they may or may not need a sequel.

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    Umm, sorry bout the Gonzo thing, mistook them for Kyoto Animation, precisely because the first FMP was made by Gonzo.

    Uh, and if you read my post, I was talking about Kanon, though not specific parts about it. I just compared it to the other series that I liked in order to express how well it is made. I just mentioned other series twice, once to tell how Kanon surprised me in a good way, and the second to clarify what I said since someone commented on it.

    If someone read the post and also shared my initial view on the other series and the remake, I thought that would give them a good idea of how good kanon 2006 is, and that it is worth watching.

    I dont really want to criticize anyone, but it was pretty clear that my posts were about Kanon. Comparing, even if it is on the criteria of my personal taste, is in fact a good way to explain things. Sorry if you didnt get it, or dont agree with me on this point.
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    The whole extent of Mai's determination is finally measured:

    Episode 15 h264 - SS-Eclipse
    Episode 15 xvid - SS-Eclipse

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    Excellent timing.

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    A really excellent episode. The Mai arc is over and what an ending it was! I remembered very little of it from the old one, but it was a really good arc plot, like everything in this series. The efx were also exquisite indeed. The atmosphere was great and I'm not ashamed to admit I was quite moved during certain parts of the episode.

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    I don't remember much of how the old Mai arc ended either, but her past with her sick mother and how she was ostracized for her powers...incredibly touching. Having the demons be summoned by her, in an effort to destroy everything she hated about herself and what she thought drove people away. Even though Mai has never appears as one, deep down she is just a child who refused to stop playing when everyone else goes home for the night. Mai just wanted friends to play with all these years.

    Young Mai wearing bunny ears while running in the fields was always my favorite part of the opening, because it's so cute and she looks so happy.

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    That was one of the most touching things I've ever seen in an anime or otherwise...and nobody even died. I managed not to cry but it was a bit of an effort if they had killed her off with that sword thrust I don't know what I would have done.

    I never would have guessed Mai had that kind of power since she's been destroying pretty much non-stop since she was introduced, but the execution was brilliant as usual and my emotions were wrung out thoroughly. I'm guessing there will be an arc on Shiori, Ayu (I noticed those Angel wings in the OP for the first time today) and maybe Naiyuki before it's all over.

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    I'd agree, were it not for the fact that I felt this entire episode was paced way too fast. Splitting it down the middle might have had a better effect, although I suppose there are plenty more stories to get through...

    The thing I like about this series (so far, not knowing the story myself) is that this is kind of a reversal. Here we have a number of supporting characters who all have some amazing story, while the 'hero' himself is seemingly as normal as can be and up to now has had a pretty mundane existence. He gets through his trials the only way a normal person would know how. He fights demons, not with some magic wand he inherited from his uncle who happens to be a Tree God or some nonsense, but rather with a stick he borrowed from kenpo class. I think that's mainly why he's likeable.
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    An awesome episode.

    Kanon 2002 totally ignored Mai's other self, so it was great to see her full story for the first time (in my case I sadly haven't found the game in full english yet. I have it somewhere, but won't play it on japanese).

    I was surprised of Mai's healing powers. And as usual people are stupid, attacking her home.

    Next ep Shiori-chan! w00t

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    Yet another beautifull episode. I didn't see Mai's powers coming. But I kinda saw her suicide coming. Didn't expect the ressurrection O_o

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    As opposed to the widely spread misinformation, Friday wouldn't be Friday at all without Kanon:

    Episode 16 xvid - SS-Eclipse
    Episode 16 h264 - SS-Eclipse

    Edit: Mai arc is over as pretty much could be expected and Shiori's began. Yet another sad arc. But that's what this series is all about and what makes it so special, so I wouldn't want it any other way.
    Last edited by Kraco; Fri, 01-19-2007 at 10:40 AM.

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