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    Poor birdies

    The actual dollar-value attached to the item, and the personal value we attach to the item, are largely independant.
    That we are willing to pay the price of something indicates that we consider the item to be at least worth that much. If we didn't, on some level, cosider the cost to be reasonable, then we wouldn't pay it.

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    In this day and age,

    1 red paperclip = 1 house

    Equivalence? Yes, indeed!

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    Ha, that's too true dude.

    Btw, your new sig is more than a little creepy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samsonlonghair
    You might buy it if you need it, or if you think you need it. You might pay several times more than what it costs to preoduce the item, especially in a tightly controlled market.

    For instance, some people really love birds. Such a person might convince herself that she "needs" a parrot after seeing one in a pet store. After deciding what kind of parrot she wants, she shops around and finds that the lowest price available is a few hundred dollars. She pays this amount for a young parrot whose feathers have not fully come in yet. After taking home the bird she can't figure out why he keeps on singing spanish lullabies.

    The distributor who sold that parrot to the pet store goes to the Costa Rican Rain forest every year. In the Spring time the native people who still live in the forest (yes, they're still there) climb trees and snatch baby birds from the nests. These hatchling are taken home and the women of the tribe take care of the birds along with the children, often singing them lullabies in Spanish and Portuguese. When the distributor comes in the Fall he trades for the young birds. The native people can recieve a knife, a bell, or even a cord of fabric for each bird.

    The distributor then takes the birds back to the US. He slips the customs agent a hundred dollar bill, and sells each bird for three hundred to seven hundred dollards. The woman who bought that bird had no idea that her bird only cost the distributor a twelve dollar knife. If she ever found out she wouldn't consider it equivalent anymore.

    I think the common mistake on this thread is that many people think that equivalent exchange only refers to trading or buying something. That's not the point of the thread. What I'm looking for is something that you yourself or someone close to you has done to affect or not affect your or someone else (besides paying or trading).

    When you buy or trade something, you or someone else came up with the value for the item. The equivalency that I'm looking for is experiences that you or anyone else can't put prices on.

    Thats what I mean by equivalency, not things you price yourself.

    discuss.


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    Last edited by Mizuchi; Thu, 08-10-2006 at 08:57 PM.

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    That doesn't sound like equivalency to me...it sounds like conservation. Tae dad did a lot of work and learnd a great deal, then instead of all the fruits of his effort (knowledge) vanishing from the world, they were recorded in a diary, which was found and acted upon by another. The guy worked hard and learned a lot, and the someone else learned what he had learned with out doing any work. What does that have to do with EE? The work/learn thing is more cause and effect then anything else.

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    Ur right yukimura, i edited it. I'll put in a new example when I think of one.

    P.S. Whatever idiot bad repped me because if the bad example is a complete moron. I made a mistake and the example was bad, but I corrected it and thats no reason to neg rep me. Idiot.
    Last edited by Mizuchi; Thu, 08-10-2006 at 08:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkmetal505
    getting definitions off of wikipedia doesn't help either. Nothing can be made or destroyed, thus how are you supposed to give and recieve the same "whatever". I dunno, it makes sense to me, or maybe I'm trying to sound smart.
    You're some kind of nut, right? or you didnt pay attention to chem class? the Law of Conservation only works in a closed system whereas external elements or factors do not affect the system as a whole. Rearraanging the molecules and particles may sound appealing, but in this way, ENERGY WILL NOT BE GIVEN OFF. Nothing can be made or destroyed, eh? so you do not understand the law at all.

    so, when i burn a piece of paper, it turns to ashes. no change? NO. there may be ashes, your so called "Nothing can be made or destroyed," , only the composition is changed. TOTALLY WRONG! fire is made at the process, right? so it expanded energy. so, the volume of the paper and its ashes are NOT THE SAME ANYMORE. due to chemical change.

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    Great first post to necro a thread from 2 and a half years ago.

    I miss Mizuchi.

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    Why isn't he unbanned already? Last time I heard he was only banned for a month after an uncalled-for-flame directed at Animeniax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizuchi
    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    ... is it me or you're in a bad mood today ani? Just a feeling i'm getting.
    Ani's dad probably stuck his dick too far into his butt and made him bleed. He'll get over it.

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    Banned for flaming Animeniax?

    LOLWUT
    ...............Flaming Animeniax = Permanent Ban

    .................The Law of Inequivalent Trade
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    There's an entire back story to this that none of you are privy to. Unfortunately as a condition of me not being banned as well, I'm not allowed to discuss it.


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    If alchemy is understanding, decomposing, and recomposing...

    And if Flaming Animeniax = Permanent ban....

    Then does Banning Animeniax = Permanent Flaming?

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