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    Quote Originally Posted by fahoumh
    What about Shukaku? He seemed fairly sentient when he was finally released during Gaara's fight with Naruto.

    I agree except for his insane laughter showing him giving into his animal nature (lacking control and ability to reason). But also, was that not a form of Shukaku released through jutsu rather than an unsealed, free roaming Shukaku?

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    not really, gaara's jutsu was simply falling asleep... that was the whole point of him not sleeping at all, shukaku would torment him and slowly destroy his soul/mind/character (whichever it was). The fact that gaara transformed himself into shukaku and then fall asleep would make shukaku roam free in his own body and as I understood it that was exactly what has happened.

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    Tobi had better not be Obito. That'd suck so much. Tobi is Obit rearranged though, and with the Japanese diction putting an "oh" sound on the end then it seems more obvious. Hopefully it's a red herring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chet_chetty
    I agree except for his insane laughter showing him giving into his animal nature (lacking control and ability to reason).
    Yeah, but you just said "sentience"....you never mentioned anything about reason.

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    I think the ability to speak in a human language qualifies for sentience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
    I think the ability to speak in a human language qualifies for sentience.
    Sorry, I'm going to have to disagree with you there. A wise scarecrow once said, "Some people without brains do an awful lot of talking... don't they?"


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    btw, LOL @ the ultra generic badguy designs for the third movie

    oh and I read the HQ scanlation.

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    I love how he is sort of the comic relief of the Akatsuki with how he disciplines Tobi all the time..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fahoumh
    Yeah, but you just said "sentience"....you never mentioned anything about reason.
    part of sentience is the ability to reason and understand the consequences of your actions. it's not like a bijuu either is sentient or not...there's definitely degrees. the last one deidara and tobi defeated seemed to lack any though. if not for the ability to speak, then i dont know what; but shukaku is on the higher end of the scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chet_chetty
    part of sentience is the ability to reason and understand the consequences of your actions. it's not like a bijuu either is sentient or not...there's definitely degrees. the last one deidara and tobi defeated seemed to lack any though. if not for the ability to speak, then i dont know what; but shukaku is on the higher end of the scale.
    Yes, but you barely got to see the "turtle"....just because it didn't have any dialogue doesn't necessarily mean a complete lack of sentience. Also, I've always understood sentience to be synonymous with awareness, especially of the self.

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    Izumo and kotetsu should be jounin by now. why would you put an chunnin into an elit group unless he has an IQ of 200.... great chapter though...
    damn it's been a while since I last posted here.

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