If oro took Sasukes body before Sasuke got the mangekyou, wouldn't he have to kill Kabuto then to get it? (or if Kabuto isnt his best friend, then he's completely freindless, isnt he?)
If I were Kabuto, I'd be getting worried about my safety.
If oro took Sasukes body before Sasuke got the mangekyou, wouldn't he have to kill Kabuto then to get it? (or if Kabuto isnt his best friend, then he's completely freindless, isnt he?)
If I were Kabuto, I'd be getting worried about my safety.
Interesting question, but I think the situation would be a bit different.
First of all, Orochimaru has no true "friends," only subordinates. Or, if he did, they haven't been shown, or he's already used them for his experiments.
Secondly, if anything, I guess Sasuke would account as Oro's only "friend" right now, if even that, but when Oro finally does possess Sasuke, that would be, in effect, killing him off (not truly, but close enough). In that regard, I believe the Mangekyou would develop based upon that.
Finally, if all else fails, when Oro possesses Sasuke, he (being the genius that he is) would probably find a roundabout way to unlock the secret (mass infant sacrifice, maybe?).
There's another way to get Mangekyou. I really doubt Kakashi killed his own best friend.
I'm sure there is; if not, then Kishi can poop a new way out. In the case of Kakashi, I subscribe to the school of thought that the Mangekyou was eventually activated due to Obito giving his life for it.Originally Posted by mage
Maybe he still has to kill Naruto. Or maybe Jiraya was his best friend like Naruto was Sasuke's?
Kakashi blames himself for Obitos death, as he thinks his rules obsession was the cause. That may be enough.
Yea, but then you dont have to physically kill your friend, you just have to blame yourself for his death. I dont think Kishimoto will pull something as lame as that. Kakashi is a genius, he definatly found another way.
Never underestimate Kishimotos secret "plot no jutsu".
Every explanation we will get will be lame. It's not about getting Kakashi a cool way, it's about getting the one that sucks least. The conditions for MS have been well established. Unless Kakashi killed Rin during the timeskip, everything will suck.
Sasuke will awaken the MS too, some time. So either there will be two geniuses who discover a different way (after generations!) independently and at the same time, or... well... i dunno.... something else. Sasuke killing Naruto won't happen, Kakashi killing a friend won't happen either.
Lol imagine Sasuke killing off Sakura for the MS
No, I dont think this'll be a plot device. There's never a plot device when it comes to Kakashi. He just kicks ass, plain and simple.
Pretty sure Kakashi got it by "killing" his best friend, Obito, that gave it to him, even though he was essentially doomed and had seconds to live before being crushed to death, taking out the eye is probably what actually killed him.
I dont think the rules were that well established.. i mean. 1 person had it in the wholes clan history up until just a few years before the Anime/Manga started. It would be like saying the only way to fly is by the Wright Brothers airplane design..
No, don't kill Sakura. PTS-Sakura is actually quite likeable I think (PTS is post-time-skip and not to be confused with PMS).
And if half your body is crushed by a boulder, your eye won't be your problem. But he may have had better chances if Rin treated him instead of the eye surgery. But it wouldn't have changed much - a few minutes at best.
[Edit] I remember the wording to be "only a few had it in clan history".
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Oh sweet imagination. Oh sweet sweet sweet imagination.Lol imagine Sasuke killing off Sakura for the MS
Elessar, Sakura, likable? SHE KILLED SASORI!!!! Goddamnit everything she does is bad. At first she didn't do anything and sucked because of that, and now she sucks because she does the wrong thing. The only thing that makes her likable is the vast amount of hentai she stars in.
Ehm yeah, so, mangekyou sharingan, good stuff.
It's not like he left her any choice - HE PLAYED WITH PUPPETS!
But, hey! Wherever did Rin go? And, if it wasn't Obito's sacrifice that eventually triggered the Mangekyou, I wonder what...?
if obito's sacrifice triggered it, wouldnt kakashi have ms a long time ago?
ty psj for this sig
I guess Kishimoto could pull a lame "He had it all along, but didn't use it because it drains your energy" explaination.
Elessar, these are the two funniest posts I've read in a week. You're on a roll.
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Sharingan users with Multiple Sclerosis...a new help group?
HAHAHA!
We have already been forced to suspend disbelief far enough to believe that an eye may be transplanted in the field without any access to specialist facilities. It seems an unnecessary further stretch to believe that removing someone's eye would kill them.
In addition to that, the whole point about the Mangekyou Sharingan, as far as I can tell, is that to gain it is to be tainted in some way. Killing your friend in a relatively benign manner such as that does not seem to me sufficiently evil to gain the power of Mangekyou Sharingan. I can't help but believe that the most important thing is that the Sharingan user must intend to kill his friend.
I'm not opposed to the notion that Kakashi could have found some way to work around this requirement, but if he did so, I'd suggest that he was working in an entirely different direction, and that killing was not involved.
Isn't she supposed to be 12...15 years old? I know it's just animation but I still find it disturbing that that exists. (Off-topic but I don't think this warranted its own thread...)
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