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    I like to anticipate things from a writer's perspective. Would kishimoto allow his main character to alter himself to have a sharingan? Would he allow his main jounin to alter himself (in a way that the audience hadn't become comfortable with) to support this plot change?

    It would be too drastic of a shift in the natural characterstics of major characters to give naruto a sharingan. It would be hideous, and it would have a strong response both positively and negatively.
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    I highly doubt that this technique will be taught to Naruto due to the fact Kakashi never used it during the entire manga/anime series. Not to mention Sasuke's Sharingan would know what would have happened (Why didn't Kakashi teach Sasuke this technique?). The possibilities are quite few, but I'm only going to guess 2 of them. Kakashi give Naruto his Sharingan and teaches him to control the kyuubi within Naruto. Reason behind this because Naruto has the stamina and chakra of the kyuubi. In order to use the Sharingan, you have to have a huge amount of stamina and chakra.

    eh...i dont know wtf i'm talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotary7eaven
    Why didn't Kakashi teach Sasuke this technique?
    Kakashi: This is something only you can do, Naruto.

    Sasuke's sharingan won't be able to negate the yellow flash. It isn't just an illusion that can be broken down or taijutsu that can be anticipated. If you recall, the 4th was able to locate and instantly appear to aid kakashi when kakashi threw that special kunai. Just by merely triggering a seal, the user can instantly appear at that seal. That is the Yellow Flash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chet_chetty
    i'm not sure what kinda of anger unmanagement training jiraiya would have shown naruto in their 2 1/2 yrs away from everyone close to them for that much more chakra to consume him and get to the 3rd and 4th tails.


    and yes i do realize it is not fact and my assumption that kakashi meant only naruto out of his teammates could do this special training. but it makes the most sense because the other 2 teammates make up the team, and Kakashi is training only this team.
    I dont think Jiraiya intentionally made naruto angry just to bring out the 3rd and 4th tail. I doubt that was his intention at all. Like you mentioned, the other two tails were brought out with emotional fights, but they were also the fights where he was in a serious pinch and needed power. It just means that his training with jiraiya was that tough, where there were times where he almost died (well he was fighting sannin).

    What you said about kakashi teaching that team alone would make sense if he didnt mention how much growth is possible with that training. Kakashi said that naruto could surpass him, and that means a gigantic power jump. If anyone in the leaf who has kagebunshin can learn that technique, wouldnt it make sense for kakashi to teach it to all the jounins and give them a gigantic power boost? Why not do the training himself since he has the kagebunshin as well? If he did, then there is no way naruto can surpass him, and if he didnt he would just be plain stupid (which he isnt).

    EDIT: A lot of people think that hiraishin doesnt suit naruto because its a speed technique, but like assertn said, it really isnt. It is more like a teleportation jutsu, which creates a ton of possibilites, as well as ways to negate the sharingan. If naruto ever hopes to defeat that broken (overpowered) bloodline limit, he needs hiraishin or something to that effect. And like I said earlier, since it is teleportation, its already amazing to just imagine the possibilities when naruto combines it with his kagebunshin and tactics.

    Quote Originally Posted by mage
    it uses tons of chakra regardless if it's mangekyou or not. kakashi has gassed out several times due to overusing his sharingan.
    It does use a lot of chakra, but not insane amounts of it. It would hardly require someone to have infinite chakra to use it effectively, and that is my point. Mangekyou, though unbelievably powerful, can only be use a few times at a time because of chakra restrictions, so kyuubi would only be truly necessary (actually not even, look at itachi) in this case.
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    It's kinda nice that Kakshi is bothering to teach naruto at all since it shows that he respects him unlike before where he simply dropped naruto off with the glasses guy just so he could train his favorite pupil. I'm still pissed off that fricking kakashi is going to give naruto the stupid power boost that he couldn't get from the 2.5 years of training with A FRICKING SANNIN!

    I guess all naruto gained from that training was the really big rasengan, 4-th tail kyubi, and generally smarter use of the kage bushin (Since the time jump we haven't seen him do a blind taju kage bushin bum rush which is a good thing) right now i'm really thinking that "that jutsu" was probably the 4th tail but here's hoping that it turns out to be something else.

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    It is very unlikely that 'that jutsu' is the 4th tail. First off, its not even a jutsu. Secondly, the 4th tail isnt something he uses intentionally, so jiraiyas warning that naruto should not use it would fall on deaf ears. Lastly, that would just suck.

    I still believe that naruto learned something from jiraiya other than what he has shown so far, excluding the 'that jutsu'.
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    The problem is:

    WHAT is "that jutsu", that Naruto not even against Orochimaru used it?
    Or against Sasuke (ok, he´s his friend and he wants to save him).
    It would be kind of weird, if all of sudden Naruto uses a cool uber-technique, that would have had been useful in former situations.

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    I think its not a cool-uber technique, that would have been useful in former situations, because if that is so, what reason would jiraiya have to not let naruto use it? It obviously has some drawbacks, or maybe requires quite a costly sacrifice.
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    jiraiya does tell naruto not to become too hot headed and to get a grip on himself before he loses control right before he says to not use that jutsu, so i don't think the 4th tail being "that jutsu" should be ruled out

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    He tells that to naruto to prevent him from going into 4th tail mode (and the fact that naruto is ALWAYS hot headed), then he says that he shouldnt 'use' that jutsu. I am not absolutely ruling out that possibility, but the chance of it being true is very low.
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    ROTFLMAO

    "H-A-G"

    Sai just earned a lot of character points

    For some reason I found him to be very cute in this chapter despite him just being "there" and very predictable since he was first introduced..

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    I can't wait for 312. Naruto surpass Kaka-sensei? Never! I have to see this.

    Obviously, since only Naruto can do it, it has to do with Kyuubi.

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    Yes... the technique probably requires the kyuubi or the insane amount of chakra naruto has. Most likely it consumes a lot of chakra... im hoping its the yellow flash though.. would be cool.

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    Yellow Flash is what the 4th used, right?

    Kakashi didn't learn it, so how can he teach it to Naruto?

    Knowing Naruto's range of overused jutsu's, like Rasengan, Kage Bunshin, and so on, it's probably gonna be a really high-level jutsu, that is stronger than the Rasengan.

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    Well there's always a possibility Kakashi was taught it, but he couldn't do it. Just because you can't do something, doesn't mean you dont know how it is taught and how to teach it.

    For example... A move in soccer can be done in slow motion, but your not fast enough to do it fast... So you know how it is done, you just cant do it because your body isn't fit to do it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinity
    Well there's always a possibility Kakashi was taught it, but he couldn't do it. Just because you can't do something, doesn't mean you dont know how it is taught and how to teach it.

    For example... A move in soccer can be done in slow motion, but your not fast enough to do it fast... So you know how it is done, you just cant do it because your body isn't fit to do it yet.
    I agree with you. For example, there is a person who real love kung-fu, but he has a really weak body. As the result, he can't practice kung-fu. However, it doesn't mean that he can't watch. He travel around the world and watch every thing that he can. What do you think going to happen? definitely, he will know every move (notice: know is very different than do it. OK?), he know the theory behind that move and how to train for it. Do you think with all that knowledge can that guy able to teach another person who strong enough to successfully inherit that move? Same thing with Kakashi, Kakashi travel around a lot, especially before team 7 was ever form. In the addition, the sharingan that he has able him to see how all the technique was process as well as how to execuse it. Can he teach it to Naruto? definitely. But Why he can't do it? I don't know maybe he lack of charka need to perform it (be my guess to think whatever you want on why he can't do it?)

    What the hell is the move that Kakashi will teach Naruto? I don't know. But look at the Naruto record: Kage bunsin (Jounin leve -- thos Jounin Ninja in the first chunin exam when Naruto fought with Neji said it). Sumon no Jutsu (sumom boss frog) (only 2 know people was every use it the Fourth and Ero Sanin -- maybe there are others but we don't know it yet -- so i will assume it is A grade level or higher). Rasengan same thing only 2 people use it, the Fourth and Ero Sanin, (what fasinating is that according to the Ero Sanin the Forth is praise to be the second strongest because of this move. In addition, not even sharingan can copy it -- considering what both Kakashi and Sasuke comment when first saw it -- A grade level difficulty. For me, i think it should be S minus level of difficulty.) All this move have few things in common: (1) all high level. (2) all require lot of charka. (3) all involve physical movement (4)all can't be copy by sharingan. (5) all practical. But what his new move will be. I don't know, but i will bet it will be a move that have all the five point that i memtion.
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    :/

    I know the basics of a computer, but I can't take one apart, and put it back together. To know something, you have to be able to do it. I can watch Karate for 40 years, and only know what it looks like, but not how to do it.

    I know how to spell the word anti-social, and I can spell, and do spell it.

    Fourth would not have taught Kakashi how to do it, unless he could.

    And besides, if I remember correctly, it isn't a jutsu, it's a nickname. Yellow Flash. Because he is really, really fast.

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    You didnt remember correctly. Please read back a few replies to get the definition of the yellow flash/hiraishin no JUTSU.

    You can teach people things you cant do, not by showing them but by teaching them the theory. Granted that is difficult in this case since it is a jutsu, but not impossible. What you said didnt relate to teaching at all, but doing. Whether teaching and doing is different was the flow of the discussion, til you replied.

    The 4th probably didnt teach it, but kakashi might have seen it with the sharingan, and just couldnt do it because of certain restrictions.

    EDIT : of course, all this is just theory, but still ones based on fact and logic, not on groundless (and mistaken) assumptions.
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    Think of a coach for an athlete. If a tennis player is being coached by someone, does that mean the coach can do everything the player can? No, but he/she can still teach the player and give advice/training.
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    I hate how everyone is assuming that the quick flash technique will be taught. Kakashi never even implied anything near that. All he said was that Naruto would get stronger and Naruto might surpass Kakashi.

    Maybe I just don't want to see Naruto learning the technique the Fourth was esteemed for. That would just degrade him. Its enough that Naruto learned Rasengan. He just needs to learn how to use his brain.

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