france wouldve won if they hadn't taken out henry. i think the only guy who missed his penalty shot was the one that replaced henry....trezeguet or whoever. what a stupid thing to do.
france wouldve won if they hadn't taken out henry. i think the only guy who missed his penalty shot was the one that replaced henry....trezeguet or whoever. what a stupid thing to do.
I would hardly call it badass. He a took a couple of glances here and there to make sure noone was watching and headbutted the guy in the chest, and not on the head like figo did. If he wanted to appear tough, he should have gone for a head to head hit, but apparently he didnt want to hurt himself in the process. I saw it as more of a cowardly challenge than a 'badass' one. He didnt want to make much contact but was rather going for really hurting materazzi. Honestly i dont feel sorry for zidane and i feel as if it was an appropriate way for him to end his career. He has always had this violent nature and lack of clean play about him but it was never widely publicised because he was the "GREAT" zizou. Even in france 98, he had received a red card and a 2 match suspension for quarelling and spitting on other players. As a matter of fact, given zidane the golden ball for this tournament is a something that eludes me. Apart from the game against brazil he hasnt done all that much. Scoring a couple of penalties does not make one the player of the tournament. Even his teammate henry outperformed him in the tournament itself. But ahh well, i guess they felt sorry for the guy after what happened. However i feel it was an appropriate way for him to depart in the sense that it brought to the forefront a part of his gameplay that was never highlighted. He has always had disciplinary problems.Originally Posted by Assassin
Well first, when you hit someone you generally try to minimize damage to yourself, so i dont know how thats cowardly. Second, i didn't meant badass like that (and even if he looked around to check that no ref was there, theres about 30,000 cameras and a shitload of fans so it doesn't really matter). I said he was badass cuz he managed to knock the guy flat on his ass. i've seen people get kicked and only stagger back a bit. to knock someone down with only a headbutt....well thats badass in my book.
hmm..i hate france, and am indifferent about italy...i didnt really care who won. But Zidane gets my respect for bring a dirty, dirty man.
Grr, lost to italians *grumble, grumble*. I know, I totally saw it coming too.
Maybe I should start headbutting people when they piss me off too now
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I have finally found a video with Zidane giving a head-butt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQEJz...d%20cup%202006
It seems that the italian player called him a terrorist and his mom a prostitute. Serve that italian player right to get a head-butt for being racist.
A little thing like that goes a long way on the internet, a few examples
What a world....
Last edited by Deadfire; Tue, 07-11-2006 at 01:04 PM.
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Wow, for some reason i had a feeling that Materazzi would be accused of having said exactly something along those lines. Personaly i dont believe that at all. The Italian team openly denied it, but of couse, what else would they say. They stated that the officials should acquire some audio proof and they would realize that materazzi said nothing of the sort. But the thing is Zidane has openly stated many times that although he was born a muslim, he couldnt care less about his faith. Hence i dont see the terrorist comment angering him to the extent it did. Also, insulting a person's mother is a really common way for people to get at each other and i dont think it justifies a head butt because being an inhabitant of this world, he should have gotten used to it.
I have read many newsreports and journals and although many have mentioned the terrorist thing i havent read anything about the mom being a prostitute. I have however, read in several places that materazzi might have accused zidane of being involved in game related substance abuse. This, i find more believable than the other comments.
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ROFL at Deadfire's post.
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
@ Splash:
Being called a terrorist has nothing to do with your religion these days. People get insulted for the nationalities. These days, if some one calls you a terrorist and you are from a middle east, you do not take that because its a stereotype. As you have stated :
This is common I would say in the "western part of the world" but not in the middle eastern part. In the middle east, if some insult your mom or your dad, its bad, real bad. It is insutling your mom/dad and yourself. It shows that you have no respect for the elders. You do not do that no matter what. There is no like fuck you, screw you insults. Its all like your dad is dog, your mom is a slut. That is the culture over there.
And now for the mom being called a prostitute.
This is the article where I have found the information.
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1540/zizou12ob.jpg
But if you want only the paragraph. Its the 7th one.
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4730/zizou21ny.jpg
Has I have mentionned before:
So I can not say for 100% sure that the Italian player said that, there is some possibilities. I guess we have to wait until we get to know for sure what happen between those two players.
I don't care what Materazzi said. Hell, he could have said that Zidane's mom was a terrorist prostitute for all I care. If you have played any competitive sport be it football, baseball, basketball, etc. you are well versed in attempts to 'get into your head' (either verbally or physically) and take you out of the game mentally or physically.
Zidane is a professional athlete, competing at the highest level and the captain of a team in the World Cup finals. You don't get a booked in the last 10 minutes of overtime for head butting another player during the last game of your international career! He let down his team, his country and mostly himself for giving into another players taunt. It is not like whatever Materazzi said to Zidane was meant to be anything other than that, a taunt. Does Materazzi really think Zidnae's mother is a terrorist prostitute? I sincerely doubt it. I doubt he has even seen her and probably hasn't spoken to Zidane other than on the pitch. Despite what Zidane did, I don't think people should change their view of him or what he has done for the sport. He is one of the greatest midfielders to play the game and should be remembered for his achievements; not for his final head butt (or for his 1998 antics in which he spat on another player).
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I agree with you FrogKing that he has to control his emotion no matter what is the insult.
I am sure that we all agree that the finale was an important match meaning there is more stress on the players such as Zidane. But you see, unfortunaly Zizous mom when to hospital few hours before the finale match.
If some one insults your mom whos life is in danger, i am sure no one would take that insult. That person would start fighting. I am quite suprised that he didnt go totally berserk that he only gave him a head-butt. I agree that wasnt the best thing to do, but you have to put yourself in his place.
What would you do if some one insulted you, your mom who is in the hospital while you are playing the last match of your career?
I would focus even more on the game at hand and try to make my mother proud of her son. How do you think she feels now? I had read that report about his mother, but still do you think Materazzi really intended to insult his mother or just get into his head? It was probably the latter although I don't think there is any lost love between him and Zidane.
Anyhow, what is done is done and Italy is the winner. Guess we'll have to wait another 4 years to see if France can get it done without Zidane and if the Italians can defend their title better than the French did in 1998 (at least the Brasilians went to the quarter finals this time around).
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Well, in all of this, you are assuming that materazzi did indeed insult zidane's mother and that has yet to be proven. Also, in response to your earlier post about middle eastern culture, i am well aware about what things are like in the middle east but i am pretty sure zidane has had enough european exposure to be familiar with western insults. Hence, there is no possible excuse for his behaviour. If he was indeed in such an emotional state of mind that he couldnt take an insult, then he shouldnt have even been playing. Furthermore, even if materazzi did INDEED insult his mother as you are assuming, i dont think he was aware of the circumstances of zidane's mother.
Bottom line is, this is nothing new to zidane. He has had always head problems keeping his attitude and temper in check, even when he hasnt been provoked.
It is very sad that a player at such a professional level has no self control
one more then
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Best fucking send off ever!
Absolutely awesome, the best way to leave the game, only if France had won, it would've been perfect!
Well done Zidane!
He didn't look around at all, he just did it.He a took a couple of glances here and there to make sure noone was watching and headbutted the guy in the chest,
Last edited by kAi; Thu, 07-13-2006 at 12:11 PM.
Lol, where do you find this?one more then
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
Here's another one, got a better intro.
How about this one:
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
For the past week just about every link on the front page of ytmnd.com has been about Zidane.
Heh, this one's my favorite: Zidane vs. Deathstar.
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