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    Chapter 309

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    translation in mangahelpers site.


    http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=4432.0
    enjoy

    we find out the name of the 1rd MS user. Kyuubi didn't say how he knows him. sasuke knows that guy too, either from the scrolls or Oro told him. susake surppress Kyuubi's chakra and kyuubi tells him to not kill naruto or he is going to regret it. then they come to the real world, yamato said he didn't want you to use violence on him (susake) but now he is going to do it. we see susake making hand seal, and Oro stops him and tell don't use that technique, then they run away.

    I hope naruto will now understand but I highly doubt it. at least we find out that 1st MS user Uchiha Madara.
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    Argh! Not another "that jutsu"!!!
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    I had really really hoped Naruto would be on a slightly equal level to Sasuke. He's always been better - that's a rule, but this two chapters had made him so stupidly over-powered... he not only overwhelmed three people (an anbu with special wood-jutsu and two who, like him, trained under the legendary ninja) but was also able to enter Naruto's subconscious and suppress the Kyuubi's chakra.

    Ooooh, and the Kyuubi also said that he's got an omnious chakra, even worse than his own!!! And he got compared to some random legendary Uchiha who we don't know. Yet another mistery for Kishimoto to solve in, I dunno, 7 years.

    Sasuke is such a Mary Sue.

    Guess I can't complain though. These last two chapters have been more interesting that the entire manga has been for years. I just hoped the power scales weren't so unequal.

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    Naruto only has the "I'll get Sasuke back" mantra in his head. So he must have not really trained... and Ero-sennin was doing "research".
    Meh... I think even Sakura can defeat this Naruto :P

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    yea I agree. hopefully this encounter will f-ing wake him up.
    although its getting really annoying that sasuke is always stronger, then naruto. wut happened to good old days when vegeta was alway a step behind of goku. lol just jk.

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    Actually the reason Naruto is such a stupid weakling is because he wasted an entire year (and soon to be more!) doing stupid low-ranking missions, as the anime has showed us. Seriously, Sasuke is training against Kabuto while Naruto is running around with a monkey-thing glued to his back.

    Uchiha Madara.... I didn't read the translation nd I read the raw very quicky, so I don't remember if it was said that he was the first MS user. Sasuke did say something like "As if I knew that guy".

    Anyway, the sharingan just gets stronger as the series flows. From what I've learned lately that kind of eye (red with black dots) has appeared in Japanese culture since before Naruto, but it was only meant to see the opponent's moves in slow-motion... now it creates illusions, black holes and can supress the demons.

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    yea it didn't say he was the 1st MS user but, I think he is. if not then we get another character that kishi has to explain.

    does anyone know yondaime's last name? Now before anyone start anything let me say I'm not saying he is an uchiha but just want to make sure.

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    Well, looks like Kishimoto turned the Sharingan into the "God" bloodline, being able to do all that shit just isn't fair to the main character.

    Oh well, not my problem; and by the look on Naruto's face it's probably going to be revalation time in the Konoha amusement park........again. I'll give Naruto the benefit of the doubt that he was weakened from the Kyuubi chakra, but at this very moment he still pretty much sucks in well everything.

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    Ok first off the missions that you are talking about that naruto has done lately have nothing to do with the story from the manga they are just fillers. Second the kyubi didnt say sasukes chakra was greater or more omnious then his he said the sharingans was and im also guessing the uchia he mentioned may be the first uchiha period to have sharingan because unless sasuke has found a new way to get MS besides killing his best friend how would kyubi know he has it when he hasnt even used it thus not really meaning the uchiha he mentioned was the first MS users.Wouldnt the chakra for the MS be diffrent from the chakra of a regular sharingan it would make sense since each stage of sharingan makes the user stronger in away. Again this is speculation since lately there hasnt been much explanation for anything in this manga anymore which kinda leaves us in the dark 75% of the time.
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    Tis been a while since I been this excited about Naruto. I understand that some people want some apparent or noticeable progress from Naruto, yet you guys need to understand that it has to be a slow and gradual process. The serie needs to last many many years in order to have the epic standing of other great anime. This is Kishimoto's story, please allow the man to tell it the way he deems fit.

    Now to get back to the subject, it is going to be very interesting learning more about the Sharingan, especially of Uchiha Madara. I believe it's only going to do good in the furtherance of the anime. Now Itachi must be pretty strong if Sasuke has no qualm about relinquishing his body to Orochimaru. Now hopefully this little meeting will have given Naruto and Co a dose of reality and he could start training seriously and improve his skills, only relying on Kyuubi for Chakra.

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    I didnt like this chapter, nor the path Kishimoto has chosen. This settles down all sasuke-naruto love for another arc at least. We have been witnesses of the sasukes -demigod- crap.

    I mean he can go inside naruto, oh well why not he is an uchiha, but then he can interact physically with narutos mind and even with the kyubii (wich almost crapped his pants seeing sasuke). If sasuke can go inside naruto and do whatever he wants its pretty clear that naruto is never going to be able to beat him.

    And if sasuke can do this kind of things that just mean that everyone in the series has gotten a mega powerup or he is far stronger than itachi. Itachi was a genius ninja (and the moves we have seen are powerfull) but this power that sasuke shows goes far beyond ninja level, its superhuman like orochimaru. Imagine the Itachi we have seen in the first part fighting against 4 tailed kyubii, he wouldnt stand a chance (unless kyubii can be mangekyou sharinganed).

    Well lets see if this is a snap out episode for naruto and starts getting stronger and thinking about beating the crap out of everyone (even mind-controlling-electricity-company sasuke).

    P.S: where are all those good days when ninjas where humans and naruto and sasuke moreless equal rivals, I even thought that naruto was going to surpass him soon, reading what gamabunta said about naruto resembling the 4th and being the first kid in such a long time being out of the world.

    Another bad thing, for me the greatest catastrophe of the series that shows what way is going to take presumably. No one died.
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    LQ Scanlation Naruto 309 rapidshare

    I found someone who colors the latest manga chapters with inane translation. They are quite nice.

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    EDIT

    Crap chapter. Like everyone is saying, Kishimoto needs to step this up, or Naruto will go spiraling down...
    Last edited by darkmetal505; Thu, 06-01-2006 at 01:57 PM.

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    aw man. The lil fight then the "don't use that jutsu" then the getaway. It's all so common. However we got an interesting story developing with possibly another Uchiha. Hmm, so even after 3 years of training Sasuke still thinks he can't beat Itachi, wow. But he needs to give up his body to Orochimaru to stand a chance?! jeez how frikken strong is Itachi, from the cases I've seen of him he's strong but he lacks endurance to hold his power.

    However Oro and the gang want Konoha to deal with members of Akatsuki? surely Oro and Sasuke can both deal with any other member of Akatsuki aside from Itachi and possibly the leader.

    Hmm, interesting new stories coming up. I guess the next few chapters will be a lot of discussions.

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    Is anyone else getting really tired of every confrontation ending with somebody saying "ok, well I gotta go, cya later!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxgreatone87
    Ok first off the missions that you are talking about that naruto has done lately have nothing to do with the story from the manga they are just fillers. Second the kyubi didnt say sasukes chakra was greater or more omnious then his he said the sharingans .
    I know the fillers are meant for the anime and have no connection to the manga. What I said was an attempt at humor which, it seems, failed miserabily as you though I was being serious.

    And I don't know what the translation says - I don't read them at all, I read directly from the Japanese and in my translation the Kyuubi does say Sasuke's chakra is more omnious than his.

    Other than that I completely agree with Knives - I'm giving Naruto the benefit of doubt since before this run-in with Sasuke he first fought against Orochimaru and unleashed up to the Kyuubi's fourth tail, which left him drained, and then fought against Orochimaru once more - even Orochimaru himself said that the difference was obvious and Naruto was exhausted... Sasuke, instead, had been napping while all of that happened.

    So yeah. Let's see what follows now. Hopefully the Akatsuki will re-appear soon, and hopefully there will be no new characters for a while - Kishi needs to clarify a bunch of stuff about the existing ones before.

    BTW, the jutsu Sasuke is about to use before Oro stops him - I think it was a kuchiyose. Maybe Sasuke just wanted to call that big snake thing to eat all of them.

    And Orochimaru talks like an old japanese woman. Scary.

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    Um....so WHAt exactly can Naruto do now?
    He´s trained for 3 years, but is much weaker than Sasuke.
    It seems, that Naruto really only trained to control the Kyuubi, that´s no use anymore, because now there is Kyuubi level 3, which Naruto cant control, again.

    So, if not suddenly Naruto becomes a technique genius, he really has to unleash the Kyuubi absoluter power and absorbing it somehow....because the time he had he wasted...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyougaZell
    Meh... I think even Sakura can defeat this Naruto :P
    Nice try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto_RNG
    although its getting really annoying that sasuke is always stronger, then naruto.
    Not true.
    Naruto saved both Sasuke and Sakura from the clutches of mad Gara during Konoha’s invasion.
    Naruto made Sasuke very insecure when he fought him on that rooftop. Sasuke couldn’t believe his eyes that Rasengan would do that much damage compare to his Chidori.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edort4
    I mean he can go inside naruto, oh well why not he is an uchiha, but then he can interact physically with narutos mind and even with the kyubii (wich almost crapped his pants seeing sasuke). If sasuke can go inside naruto and do whatever he wants its pretty clear that naruto is never going to be able to beat him.
    How do you come up with stupid conclusions like these? He did not interact with kyubii physically. His eyes allow him to see what’s going on inside Naruto’s mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edort4
    And if sasuke can do this kind of things that just mean that everyone in the series has gotten a mega powerup or he is far stronger than itachi. Itachi was a genius ninja (and the moves we have seen are powerfull) but this power that sasuke shows goes far beyond ninja level, its superhuman like orochimaru. Imagine the Itachi we have seen in the first part fighting against 4 tailed kyubii, he wouldnt stand a chance (unless kyubii can be mangekyou sharinganed).
    Seriously man you need to think before you post shit like this.

    Sasuke is not stronger than itachi.

    Naruto Chapter 309 :

    Sasuke :

    I will make it even clear now.
    I can’t beat Itachi and neither can Orochimaru but
    If giving my body to Orochimaru
    We can get the power to do that
    I would give my life again and again


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne
    Is anyone else getting really tired of every confrontation ending with somebody saying "ok, well I gotta go, cya later!!"
    I was thinking the same thing. At least Sasuke could have killed Sai. I was so looking forward to it.

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    Someone has already posted my thoughts very elegantly.


    Quote Originally Posted by tha_seeker
    It’s been a while since I been this excited about Naruto. I understand that some people want some apparent or noticeable progress from Naruto, yet you guys need to understand that it has to be a slow and gradual process. The series needs to last many years in order to have the epic standing of other great anime. This is Kishimoto's story, please allow the man to tell it the way he seems fit.

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    Jad you should try to understand what people say and not only read whatever you like so you can quote some shit.

    If the orochimaru we saw against 4 tailed kyubii and this sasuke are weaker than Itachi what the hell was he doing when he fought kakashi, asuma or later on against jiraya???. This power lvl is much higher than what it was shown by Itachi in all of the fights with him involved that we have seen. Even naruto and kakashi owned the Itachi 30% bunshin!!


    About the kyubii part on narutos mind I think that kyubii was forced back to the seal by sasuke, or was just that sasuke put his hand on kyubii and then suddenly "explodes" ?? Coincidence sure... and im still looking for a better translation because kyubii said something about restraining his power (if he refers to sasuke thats a pretty clear physical interaction).

    Quote: His eyes allow him to see what’s going on inside Naruto’s mind. (I hope this to be a joke, his eyes allow him to talk inside naruto mind and make an astral projection?)

    I hate people that tell others to think, look yourself before trying to give advices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edort4

    If the orochimaru we saw against 4 tailed kyubii and this sasuke are weaker than Itachi what the hell was he doing when he fought kakashi, asuma or later on against jiraya???. This power lvl is much higher than what it was shown by Itachi in all of the fights with him involved that we have seen. Even naruto and kakashi owned the Itachi 30% bunshin!!
    I don’t remember Itachi getting beaten up by the elite of Konoha. He didn’t have time. That’s all.

    As far as I know 30% is still less than 100%.

    If Sasuke (Kishinoto) says that he and Orochimaru are still weaker than Itachi then I have no doubts in believing them. Maybe there is something that Kishimoto still hasn’t told us about Itachi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edort4
    About the kyubii part on narutos mind I think that kyubii was forced back to the seal by sasuke, or was just that sasuke put his hand on kyubii and then suddenly "explodes" ?? Coincidence sure... and im still looking for a better translation because kyubii said something about restraining his power (if he refers to sasuke thats a pretty clear physical interaction).

    Quote: His eyes allow him to see what’s going on inside Naruto’s mind. (I hope this to be a joke, his eyes allow him to talk inside naruto mind and make an astral projection?)

    I hate people that tell others to think, look yourself before trying to give advices.

    If you are going to question every little thing what Kishimoto says then you might as well reject all his jutsus and his theories and stop reading Naruto altogether.

    Do you think it is humanly impossible to jump from tree to tree like they do in Naruto? Is it possible to resurrect dead people like Orochimaru did. Can you summon large snake/slugs?

    The answer is NO.

    Quote Originally Posted by jadugar
    The laws of physics are not fucked up in Naruto world as they do not apply. You have to apply the laws that are implanted by Kishimoto himself. If you do that then it all makes sense and if they don’t make any sense or there are black holes in them, it’s because he is HUMAN just like the rest of us.

    I think you missed my last post in previous thread.
    http://forums.gotwoot.net/showpost.p...1&postcount=40

    I am not telling you what to think but you are ignoring something that is already there. They are called facts.

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