Originally posted by: Mixairian
To be more specific, the argument is that if you're going to sight illegality as one of your qualms with Tazmo, your case is weakened as it shows a level of hypocrisy. That was the only reason to point out DB or AonE.
But as i mentioned, the law I reference is the one established through the anime community. I merely paralleled it with aspects of US copyright law as well. It's not hypocrisy if you interpret it with this regard.

Again, we've just altering ideologies here. The only time I would view sucha feat as unfair is if it worked against me specifically. To a degree it does but I recognize this and I see nothing wrong with what Tazmo is doing. As you mentioned, my "personal justice" is one where the internet is free. I don't view what either does as illegal. One is a communistic type public service and the other is a capitalistic enterprise.
Are you saying that fairness is only a concept for the self-centered? How about this take on it: I find it unfair that people who blatantly disregard rules are rewarded for it, while those more ethical, such as myself, am not.

The best argument you have provided is your fear for the anime community. I find this as a viable risk because withou NarutoFan, I'd never have been able to download the manga. I wouldn't even know where to look. On top of this, his site is one of the first sites I go to get my Naruto news. I'm not the only person that his site has helped for free. It would be ridiculous to think that I would be in the minority considering how popular and well his site is doing.

The average internet browser is not skilled with finding such materials as the manga and anime for download. Yes it gets more attention from possible negative sources but it introduces more people to this type of genre. Perhaps if anime fans were in a considerably higher number, as a group one could try to fight the copyright laws.

Citation case in the music industry:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/i...oad.suit.ap/index.html
Internet illiterate parents fights fines, she's being back by a lot of anti copyright law people.
For one thing, I fail to see how your citation supports your case. Joining Naruto-fan and paying $3.50 a month for direct anime downloads is most certainly a conscious decision one makes.

Another thing, I'm glad you brought up this argument, actually, as it further supports one of my earlier claims. As I said before, Narutofan brings an underground community to the surface. Those of us devoted to the anime cult are in a pretty good relationship with dub groups: Some of us that support localized distribution will purchase their products - Some of us that don't won't. If we don't then chances are we weren't their target audience anyway, and so the lost in profit from us obtaining our own free encodes is relatively negligable to the cost of enforcing any policy against us.

People like you, however, are the type that like anime, yet don't have the means to become part of the underground community. People like YOU are their target audience, and when your numbers dwindle in their profit margins, then that's when problems arise. If you wish to be part of this community, you have to make the sacrifices of learning how to navigate through its infrastructure. This is what seperates us from Viz's potentially marketable figures. Illegal licensed anime distribution was never meant to be a public invitation.

Your verbosity had brought me out of lurker status. We may have disagreed on ideals but that made it all the more fun.
I'm glad you had fun.