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    Yeah. And no, cause then he'd buy me one too.

    iPad 2, huh? Never seen it's use.. I mean, is it a phone? Is it a laptop? I thought it was made for reading digital books but the commercial shows a kid playing a racing game. Is it Apple's first console, finally joining the others? WTH IS IT!!??

    But yeah, a lot more mobile for work then that superminibox.

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    iPad/iPad2 - giant iTouch (tablet and touchscreen) that also allows 3G capabilities (to connect to the internet anywhere instead of just wi-fi) and due to its size, is usually obtained because it is more portable than a tablet.

    Typically, people with large wealth, hipsters, liberal-arts majors, art students, Apple loyalists and anyone who doesn't know anything about computers typically get or desire one.

    If you are looking to impress your friends, co-workers, classmates and random people on public transportation with your willingness to throw away ~$550 for $250 worth of computer parts made in China but designed in California, then the iPad was made for you.
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    Yeah, so it's very usefull...

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    Lies! The iPad is a hipster product, but useful nonetheless for web browsing, watching movies, and some low-end gaming in a highly mobile platform. I am a liberal arts major, I do know plenty about computers, I dislike Apple/Mac, have some money, but I'm still considering getting one. Not the 3G version, since I don't plan to use phone/3G data, just the wifi on campus.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    ...useful nonetheless for web browsing, watching movies, and some low-end gaming in a highly mobile platform...
    So does my low-end $430 notebook from Walmart.

    It does everything an iPad/iPad2 can do. My notebook is faster, has a bigger hard drive storage, has four times the memory, lets me webcam, lets me multitask, has an integrated microphone and all the other features described on the specs page except actual writing and a front-camera (tablet can easily be supplemented):

    http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/

    Is there a specific place to use an iPad/iPad2 that you cannot use a regular notebook at? Can the iPad/iPad2 play Starcraft 2 or a multitude of various games, allow a keyboard that lets you type faster than an iPad/iPad2 user can write with and let you watch high-definition pornography without having to subscribe to any websites or go through a tedious method of transferring your files into your iPad/iPad2?

    No? Yeah, that's what I thought.

    Apple products are all just a giant fad and Apple, which was known as an underdog in the computer industry back in 1984 with its famous "Big Brother" commercial, has became what it had stood against and is super-conformist.

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    Nothing you said disproves what I said. Yes any computer can do what the iPad can do, but not with the same portability, coolness, and eliteness that you get with the iPad.

    You can stick to watching porn on your budget notebook. I'll swat the chicks off me with my iPad2.


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    I just wanted to let you know that a notebook, which can do all that an iPad can do and more, is more useful in a technical aspect.

    I also understand that using an Apple product means you are automatically cool and this will allow you to increase your probability of sleeping with multiple women who see you as a person with [the potential to have] great wealth which allowed you to purchase your device in the first place.

    I respect your decision if you so choose to purchase such a device (I own an iTouch myself, which might be why I'm so angry that I don't have an iPad/iPad2).

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    Ahh man don't give up so easily. The kind of girls who would be interested in me for owning an iPad or a nice car (and therefore ostensibly having money) aren't the kind of girls I would be interested in.

    I have a super desktop computer and a pretty strong laptop, neither of which is particularly portable. If I get the iPad2, its because of it's super-portability, not for its capabilities and definitely not to impress guys or girls.


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    Seriously... girls sleep with guys with ipads? >_>

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    Btw, Buffalobiian, I've decied to go for 3 Coolermaster SickleFlow 120 2000 RPM Red LED and 2 Prolimatech Red Vortex 14 LED due to the availability of silent red led fans here. Thanks for the advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Seriously... girls sleep with guys with ipads? >_>
    Only if you give it to them.


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    Just threw a 240GB OCZ Vertex 2 and 7x64 in my 2 year old HP HDX16.
    It's now a lot snapier, eventhough the upgrade was as expensive as a new laptop (or an iPad2...).
    Thing is, with a new laptop in that price range, I would not have the same screen and it would still have a crappy sluggish harddrive. So I would not get the snappier behavior a SSD enables.

    I'm now seriously thinking about switching all my desktops to laptops with SSDs, because the performance boost is so neat, that you don't need a desktop anymore if you do not play the latest games with it...
    Should I need better sound? A nice usb sound card or digital/analog converter will do the trick.
    Better screen? well HDMI out is there, so any external screen can be plugged.
    Better interfaces? well external keyboard and mouse.
    In short, I can have all of these on my desk for very specific uses, and then benefit portability.

    But yes, those pieces of hardware are extremely expensive...

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    i always found it annoying to type using a laptop while it's hooked onto a bigger, separate screen The big blank default screen gets in the way.

    Yet to make the SSD jump yet myself. I don't think I'll notice that much difference if only my OS partition is transferred over. Having the Programs partition copied over would require a fair amount of storage.. more than I'm willing to pay for, most likely.

    Meanwhile, I bought one of those 2.5"/3.5" Sata-to-USB cradles, and will be getting 3x2TB 5400rpm HDDs for backup later on this week.

    I may be considering having a better sound solution on my laptop too, as the internal interference creates static in the 3.5mm out signal. It's only really apparent when the laptop's plugged in though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    i always found it annoying to type using a laptop while it's hooked onto a bigger, separate screen The big blank default screen gets in the way.
    Well, just change your parameters so that your computer will not go to sleep when you close the screen. Then just leave it open by 1cm or so to prevent heat from building up when using it that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    Yet to make the SSD jump yet myself. I don't think I'll notice that much difference if only my OS partition is transferred over. Having the Programs partition copied over would require a fair amount of storage.. more than I'm willing to pay for, most likely.
    Well if your programs and OS partitions are separated, it's true that you will miss some of the snap a SSD allows. Hard to tell by how much though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    Meanwhile, I bought one of those 2.5"/3.5" Sata-to-USB cradles, and will be getting 3x2TB 5400rpm HDDs for backup later on this week.
    Since I have e-sata everywhere, I buy e-sata and usb cradles/docks. It's really confortable to be in e-sata mode whenever you can. For example, a text search in gigabits of word files is just like hell through usb. It's not fast in e-sata, but almost the same as having it directly plugged in (like 80%).

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    I may be considering having a better sound solution on my laptop too, as the internal interference creates static in the 3.5mm out signal. It's only really apparent when the laptop's plugged in though.
    You might want to try a very cheap usb card stick, with a 3.5 jack out. You should get them under US$10 or less. Normally, you should reduce, if not get rid of most of your comps electronic sound signature.

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    I bought this customized computer about five years ago and it's not running smoothly anymore because I get sudden restarts, frozen programs, BSODs, etc.:



    When I have free time, I plan to reformat my computer as I see this might be a solution to all of the problems above (the other being a possibly damaged sound card or bad memory). The question now is - should I stick with Windows XP this time around or switch over to Windows 7 with a few computer upgrades here and there?

    If I do switch over to Windows 7, what are some new parts are still compatible with my computer (socket am2/DDR2 SDRAM) and will be able to boost my performance to run Windows 7?

    Are there any specific sites that help beginners with upgrading and the transition to these new functions/parts? To be honest, I barely know what any of the acronyms above mean and what they do aside from parts and their functions.

    My budget's around $700 and the most demanding programs I'll be running would probably be Starcraft 2 and some PS2 games.

    As always, thanks in advance!
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    Win 7 will probably run seeing you do have a dual-core, although you might want to get more memory for it. 2 GB is barely sufficient for Win 7 in real use. Still, if I was you, I'd rather consider building the computer anew. Knowing the cheaper prices in North America (I assume Canada is no more expensive than the USA, or is it?), you should get a decent modern build with 700 dollars as long as you don't include a new screen or case. The PSU would still be sufficient with 550W but after five years is it running ok? If it is, it'll also save a nice amount for other components.

    Get a mobo with USB3, 4GB of DDR3, a quad-core CPU, the Win 7 obviously, and the kind of video card the remaining budget allows. You could also postpone getting a new video card if you absolutely must, seeing how the old is PCI-E. That's my suggestion.

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    I agree with Kraco. The old board does limit your upgradability (I'm particularly looking at the CPU here). It'll run W7 as Kraco's said, but don't expect too much quality or performance from Starcraft II. The PSU's output would have degraded anywhere from 5-20% of its original 550w by 5 years now. If you do plan to keep your next computer for some time to come, get something uber (800w?) so you won't have to worry about dodgy power in the future. Newer PSUs are better at maintaining their capacities these days, though by how much I don't know.

    To answer your original question, if you want to upgrade something to bring about more performance with W7, I'd say RAM as mentioned above. I'm using 2GB right now as actually..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Get a mobo with USB3, 4GB of DDR3, a quad-core CPU, the Win 7 obviously...
    Remember, if you use 4GB of ram, the 32 bit version of Win7 will only read up to around 3.5GB. The 64 bit version supports up to 8GB to 192GB of ram depending on which edition you use. In case you'd like to upgrade it sometime.

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    I don't know why anybody would take the 32-bit Win 7, unless by accident (I've actually seen that happen, in fact).

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    Thanks, guys, I really appreciate it.

    So I guess I should sum up the suggestions I got from your suggestions:

    1. Decide whether or not stick with XP or upgrade to Windows 7.

    Upgrading to Windows 7 will affect what parts I upgrade. In both cases though, I guess I can upgrade all my parts and run Windows XP on it without fail until XP finally loses support with new programs.

    2. Consider getting a new mobo with DDR3 and USB 3.0 functionality.

    3. Get a new 600+ W PSU if my power supply is failing me (more if I get better parts).

    4. Get new DDR2/DDR3 memory (4+ GB).

    If I upgrade to Windows 7, I'll need to upgrade to 4+ GB DDR3 memory with a new mobo or if I stay with Windows 7, I'll just need to either throw out my possibly damaged memory and buy four 2 GB DDR2 sticks.

    Question - if I buy two more sticks of memory (aren't the OCZ as previously listed above) and use them in conjunction with my current ones, would my computer still be able to use its dual channel memory function even though I have two different pairs of memory sticks?

    5. Get a new quad-core processor if upgrading to Windows 7; otherwise, get the one of the best AM2/AM2+ CPU for XP.

    In the meanwhile, check whether or not an AM3 CPU can work on my AM2+ mobo...

    6. New video card (PCI-e, 596 MB - 1 GB, DVI and possibly dual-DVI for dual-monitoring).

    Bottom line: decide whether or not to reformat to either XP or Windows 7; if upgrading to Windows 7, only salvage the hard drive, ethernet card, optical and floppy drive and the case. If sticking with XP, still consider a new motherboard and do the same above. If still staying with the old mobo, throw out memory, buy new best sticks, AM2+ CPU, 600W PSU and possibly a new video card. This alone enough should provide me with 50~70 fps on moderate performance on SC2 (which I don't mind).

    Thanks again!
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