i wanted to get a phenom but their low clock speed compared to the intel quads kept me away...

maybe if they bring out something impressive i will use it.

I got my system back together but the 2 video cards i put in did the same thing the first one did w\ drivers, i can boot to safe mode but then when i boot i get black screen.. i uninstalled and then installed the most recent driver but it did it again and i put it down for the night, but not before doing one more fsb increase to 450 putting it @ 3.6ghz and the ram @ 750mhz 7-7-7-20 timings idle temp 36-40 (per core) which is same as at 3.4

the cpu outside temp is 15-20c though, the cores are just more warm.