I actually gave up on buying a PC for now. Lots of new VNs are getting translated, and those uh, don't require good hardware.
I actually gave up on buying a PC for now. Lots of new VNs are getting translated, and those uh, don't require good hardware.
Peace.
Yeah, the suggestions given by a couple of people in this thread had probably the best possible card for the price range Shinta gave, but it was still a good chunk of the total, leaving little extra when the CPU was also counted in. To go down from that in order to add an SSD would have been fatal. Without the SSD there was just the right amount of budget to get a good card.Originally Posted by Edort4
Come on, man, after all the trouble people (other than me) went through to look for the parts for you! I was looking forward to seeing you post a list totally different from the suggestions, haha.
I think if you just upgraded one or two components you could have a much better experience than what you are running now. Either a newer videocard ($200-250) or an SSD ($150-250) and your machine could run much faster. These two components can be upgraded without additional expense of upgrading other parts, and they can be reused with future upgrades to the CPU/motherboard in most cases.
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The Alienware Graphics Amplifier: Finally, desktop quality graphics on your laptop
http://www.extremetech.com/computing...on-your-laptopThe Alienware 13 laptop — announced this morning — will go down in history as the first ever laptop allowed into the vaulted, blustery, and mythical halls of True PC Gaming. While the laptop itself is just an upgraded version of the Alienware 14, it has a new peripheral that will blow your mind: the Alienware Graphics Amplifier, an external enclosure that allows you to attach a full-length desktop graphics card — such as the Nvidia GTX 980 or Radeon HD R9 295X2 — to your laptop. The price of desktop-like performance on your laptop, though, is steep: The Amplifier itself, without a graphics card, is $300 — and, sadly, it (currently) only works with the Alienware 13 laptop.
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Hopefully a standard gets developed for this technology. It's been in the talks for a while, but this is the first commercial product with the appropriate amount of bandwidth I think. I wouldn't even need to buy extra graphics cards - I'd just stick my hand-me-downs from either my desktop or from other people's into this.
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I have seen stupider things, but can't immediately name any.
What? This is exactly what's needed to make laptops beefy enough to use as a primary gaming PC. I can work and travel with a laptop, then when I get home I can just plug this guy in and play games properly. No need to own multiple sets of computers just so I can travel with one and game with the other.
It fixed the other problem with laptops in that they're not very upgradable.
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I think it's a great idea, except that it only works with that one model of laptop and it's very pricey.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
You plug this in, plug a real keyboard in, plug a gaming mouse in, plug some external storage in because the laptop SSD probably doesn't have them all, plug a bigger screen in, plug some sound system in... Between all that plugging in, you'd already be playing with your desktop PC. Not to mention the laptop CPU still won't be as good as a desktop CPU, likely the laptop memory neither.
I suppose for somebody who travels a lot and only occasionally wants to play heavier games this might work, assuming he wants to haul around one of those gaming laptops. It's a vast oversimplification to say the only good thing about a desktop PC would be the video card.
Laptop CPUs can be quite adequate, and with up to 8GB ram from what I've seen I'm not too worried there. I'd be happy with the laptop keyboard and screen, and mSATA SSDs are in the order of 1TB now anyway.
The only thing I'll need is a mouse, some headphones (or to plug the laptop into a sound system via SPDIF) and the above graphics adjunct.
I don't actually want ^ that laptop, which is why I'm hoping for it to become a standard so I can use it with the laptop of my choosing.
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I can see it as a renewal for someone who has a good overall laptop but wich graphics have become obsolete. You can buy this + the card and still keep going for a few years, but I believe that its too expensive to be a value choice. Appart from that only case (or someone that lives in 3 or more different places) I really think its stupid to get this.
If you really are a gamer and have money get a true laptop like the aorus X series that will do the work for 4 years easily.
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One thing this current generation does very well is being efficient with power, so you can run 2-way-SLI with these cards on something like a 700W PSU quite comfortably.. maybe even less.
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A few toys have joined me since the last update:
Eizo FG2421 (Monitor): 120hz is nice. VA colours are nice. 5000:1 static contrast is nice. Motion-blur reduction is nice. Shit's so fluid.
What's not so nice? Being a VA panel, some colour transitions are crazy slow. Black-to-near-black takes some 44ms, even though the average is something much lower in the single digits. That this ultimately means is that some materials can be disappointing to look at with this monitor. Anime is one such medium because everything is outlined with black lines - making any sort of panning pixel lag very evident. The monitor has very good contrast, but the reds are wrong. There's also some stepping errors in dark colours can can resemble blocking. This monitor also dislikes anything other than 120Hz input. (60fps is fine under 120Hz, but 60Hz looks like shit.. so consoles don't look that amazing on it).
Would I recommend it? You'd have to know what you're getting into. It's a niche in that it's a 120Hz VA panel. There are now some 120Hz+ IPS screens out there that are good alternatives. You won't get the nice deep blacks though. Not OLED nice, but it's as good as you can get to that from LCD.
Nvidia GTX970 (graphics card): Nice card. That's all. There's some coil whine, but otherwise it's very quiet. This is the Asus Strix model so 0db (ie fan off) at <60C core temp means minimal idle noise.
Zowie FK1 (mouse): 1000Hz feels smooth on this mouse. I tried 500Hz for a few days because the polling rate may be more stable on some computers but it feels like shit. It's not so much the 1ms vs 2ms difference I think. The mouse just behaves differently. Lift-off-distance of 1.5-1.8mm is pretty great in that your cursor/aim doesn't move while you reposition your mouse. The downside is that the mouse is a bit more picky about the type of mousemat you use. I've heard the steelseries Qck series works, and I'm using a Perixx pad without any real trouble.
edit: oh, and said mouse pad too I guess. It's black. It's 90cm. It works.
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I've been waiting to purchase a GTX970 for about 6 months now, thinking the next gen would arrive and make my $300 purchase a waste of money, same as what happened when I got the GTX770-4GB. From what I'm reading the next gen will come out mid 2016 but blow away the current generation in some performance benchmarks. What GPU did you upgrade from?
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I upgraded from a GTX670 because it broke for 3D games. 2D applications still worked, but that's no good.
The next gen had some stuff that was really advanced that had to do with AI and learning, but I wasn't sure that it translated to rendering performance.
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Maxwell's lack of async computing is crippling it what comes to wholesome dx12 games. Now some say Nvidia is sweating blood to try to fix it for Pascal (but since nobody knows anything about Pascal and Nvidia has been free to steal AMD's open secrets for years, I kind of doubt the situation would be bad for them). That would then leave Maxwell to get outdated in record speed (they might anyway since the next GPU generation will shift to 14nm technology and likely better memory). But naturally at this very moment Maxwells of 970 and above are beasts with the current dx11 games. They will likely play many first dx12 games just fine, but who knows how it will be in the future. In any case it's a huge bother for developers that Maxwells suck at parallel processing when dx12 is all about parallelism.
I'm no expert, though. I'm merely repeating what I have read much wiser people writing. The bottom line is that I wouldn't buy right now an Nvidia GPU (unless the price was too good to resist). A year ago when 970 appeared it would have been a different story. This is merely my opinion, naturally, nothing more.
Woohoo, Newegg has the highest end GTX 970 for $280 (plus a $10 discount offer I got via email). $270 for the GTX 970 4GB SSC GAMING w/ACX 2.0+. What a bargain!
Also comes with a coupon for Rainbow 6 Siege or Assassin's Creed Syndicate, neither of which I care to play. If anyone wants the code let me know, first come, first served.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Haha. Despite what I wrote up there, if such an offer appeared over here, I would probably go for it. Only 270 dollars for 970 is just crazy.
It makes me worry that the prices will drop across the board for the Maxwell cards, but even so most places still have this card for $315+ so it's a significant savings. I wasn't really in the market for one but with Fallout 4 and SW Battlefront coming out next month, decided I might as well. Now I need to upgrade the CPU and mainboard and I'll be set.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Holy... thats a crazy price. I havent seen the msi below 325$. Only some zotec at 290$. Amazing buy there. Dunno whats going on with those cards in EU they are selling at 340€ (375$).
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