Customized computer?

[Board of Command]

You need a 64-bit OS to address all of your 4 GB system memory because 32-bit doesn't have enough addressing space. 32-bit can address a maximum of 4 GB total, which includes graphics memory among other stuff. In the end you're only able to use about 3 GB of the system memory. 64-bit breaks this barrier but still has a limit, although we're not reaching that limit any time soon.

If you get Vista x64, there will be almost no compatibility problems unless you run some obscure software that nobody else in the world uses.

[Buffalobiian]

Ah, okay. Thanks for that BoC.

[itadakimasu]

i priced out a system upgrade on newegg earlier :

Gigabyte mobo - $149
E8400 CPU - $189
4GB Patriot DDR3-1333 - $160...

It's really tempting but i'm not sure if i'll do it yet, i was kind of thinking i should start w\ ddr3-1600 so that its double my current ddr2-800 but maybe thats just a stupid idea.

I've seen how great the qx9650 and up are suppposed to be but i dont want to spend more than $200 on a CPU

[Board of Command]

Don't get Gigabyte motherboards. Lots of people recommend them, but I hate their BIOSs. I always try to stick with Asus.

[Buffalobiian]

What's wrong with their BIOS? I don't play with them much, but they don't seem to be bad.

(Apparently they're durable, but that's probably a marketing thing)

[Board of Command]

Poor layout. Some stuff is counter-intuitive.

[Zachiru-Hirosaki]

Budget €1400-1500
3 years having a shit computer i thought its time make my own computer setup.
I just seacrhed on the internet for good things for my computer so i found enough stuff.

Screen: Samsung 226-BW

My components
Motherboard:€111
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, Retail
Not that expansive but there are good reactions about this motherboard

Processor:€283
Intel Core Duo E6600(conroe) Boxed
First i thought i will buy the E6400 but the prize of the E6600 started to decrease so i bought the E600

Memory:€100,20 Kingston 2048 mb DDR2 PC5300 667Mhz Cas5 (2 of them)
The quality is very good and it has endless guarantee.

Harddisk:€78 Seagate Barracuda 320 gb 16MB SATA
its very fast not expansive

Harddisk:€150 Western Digital Raptor 74 gb 10000 RPM 16 MB SATA
i use this disk for Windows Vista so that Vista twists rapidly

Dvd Rewriter:€32 Samsung SH-182M ATAPI/E-IDE Black
Because i have a black case

GFX: €380 EVGA8800 GTS 640 MB
I bought this one instead the 8800gtx because i think the 8800 Gtx is 2 xpansive for me.

Case: €70 Thermaltake VB1000BWS Soprano+Window, black
i still dont think that this one is good the design is nice it seems it has a good airflow with 3 fans. But still dont that its big enough for my setup?

Power supply:€83 Antec NeoHE 500 watt
I read some good things about this one

Cooler:€20 Arctic Freezer 7 Pro
i dont know if its important ot buy a cooler because im not going to overclock my Pc but when its usefull i just choose this one because of the quality and the price

Operating System: €86 Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit
I choose for the standard Vist i dont need the Ultimate
one year guarantee €50

Total €1442.20

[Animeniax]

Didn't BoC just get through saying not to buy Gigabyte mobos?

If it's not too late and you can afford it, return the 74GB Raptor and get the 150GB; it trumps the 74GB in every category. Otherwise, decent system, should handle any game you throw at it, at a fairly good price.

[Zachiru-Hirosaki]

alright there is time left i will go tomorrow for 150gb thnx man!

[darkshadow]

My components

Processor:€283
Intel Core Duo E6600(conroe) Boxed
First i thought i will buy the E6400 but the prize of the E6600 started to decrease so i bought the E600

GFX: €380 EVGA8800 GTS 640 MB
I bought this one instead the 8800gtx because i think the 8800 Gtx is 2 xpansive for me.

Ill let the motherboard slide, but those 2 are some seriously retarded stuff, i dunn where the hell you got that price, but cpu prices are:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Boxed € 145,- (cheapest)
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Boxed € 239,- (most expensive one, that is still cheaper then the one you picked)

the gfx card, omg
Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 € 141,- (bests the 8800/9800)
Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 € 214,50 (destroys the 8 and 9 series of nvidia)

but if you really want an nvidia and are gonna spend € 380 anyway:
Asus ENGTX260/HTDP/896M GF GTX 260 € 334,39 (ugh)

[Buffalobiian]

Since you're planning to run Vista, I'd say bump the RAM to 3GB. 2GB might be enough, but 3 will give you that little bit of headroom for running games on HIGH-everything. I wouldn't worry too much about how you'd arrange it for get dual channel running.

Right now, 3GB memory > 2GB interleaved memory

[Board of Command]

Budget €1400-1500
3 years having a shit computer i thought its time make my own computer setup.
I just seacrhed on the internet for good things for my computer so i found enough stuff.

Screen: Samsung 226-BW

My components
Motherboard:€111
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, Retail
Not that expansive but there are good reactions about this motherboard

Processor:€283
Intel Core Duo E6600(conroe) Boxed
First i thought i will buy the E6400 but the prize of the E6600 started to decrease so i bought the E600

Memory:€100,20 Kingston 2048 mb DDR2 PC5300 667Mhz Cas5 (2 of them)
The quality is very good and it has endless guarantee.

Harddisk:€78 Seagate Barracuda 320 gb 16MB SATA
its very fast not expansive

Harddisk:€150 Western Digital Raptor 74 gb 10000 RPM 16 MB SATA
i use this disk for Windows Vista so that Vista twists rapidly

Dvd Rewriter:€32 Samsung SH-182M ATAPI/E-IDE Black
Because i have a black case

GFX: €380 EVGA8800 GTS 640 MB
I bought this one instead the 8800gtx because i think the 8800 Gtx is 2 xpansive for me.

Case: €70 Thermaltake VB1000BWS Soprano+Window, black
i still dont think that this one is good the design is nice it seems it has a good airflow with 3 fans. But still dont that its big enough for my setup?

Power supply:€83 Antec NeoHE 500 watt
I read some good things about this one

Cooler:€20 Arctic Freezer 7 Pro
i dont know if its important ot buy a cooler because im not going to overclock my Pc but when its usefull i just choose this one because of the quality and the price

Operating System: €86 Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit
I choose for the standard Vist i dont need the Ultimate
one year guarantee €50

Total €1442.20

Wow some of these prices are outrageous!

Motherboard: If you're going Intel, then you should get at least a P35 if not P45. P965 has been discontinued for over half a year now. Plus, the Gigabyte 965P-DS3 is not a very good motherboard regardless of what others might tell you. They don't know their stuff. You should take a look at the Asus P5K-E or P5Q-Pro.

Processor: Again, this CPU has been discontinued for over half a year already. You should be looking at the E7xxx or E8xxx series if you're going dual core.

Memory: That's really expensive for 2 GB of memory. I can get 4 GB of DDR2-800 for cheaper than that here in Canada. You might as well pick up 4 GB if you're building a system right now. OCZ generally has the cheap kits.

Hard drive: Western Digital WD6400AAKS or Seagate 7200.11 500/750 GB are the drives you should be looking at.

DVD drive: Get a SATA drive. They should be roughly the same price as IDE drives right now. SATA cables are so much nicer to work with than IDE cables.

Video card: NO! DO NOT get the 8800GTS 640MB! It has been discontinued for over half a year now just like the CPU and motherboard you picked. For ATI, get the 4850 or 4870. For Nvidia, get the 9800GTX or 8800GT if it's considerably cheaper.

Everything else is okay. You can consider saving some extra cash by obtaining Windows Vista through other means.

[Animeniax]

I think Zachiru must be from one of the European countries with high prices on all electronic goods, like Croatia or some such. A Croatian buddy of mine was just telling me how outrageous the prices for technology are there, and taxation on such items is terrible too.

Wow, I seem to be out of the loop on the latest technology trends. I haven't shopped for a PC build in over a year, so it seems a lot has changed.

[darkshadow]

Dude, he is dutch, I just looked up the dutch prices for him, that's why i said his shit was retarded.

[Kraco]

Yeah. Those prices would be way too expensive even for Finland and this is supposed to be a very expensive place.

[Zachiru-Hirosaki]

ok guyz i just changed somethings thnx for the help.
One thing should i buy Sound Blaster Elite Pro?

[itadakimasu]

I'm thinking of giving intel a try... Technically i already have an intel box but its my wifes computer and I dont use it. the q6600 w\ x1950xt and 4gb ddr2-1066 out-performs my amd 6400+ w\ hd 3870 and 4gb ddr2-800...

Anyhow. I'm thinking of going w\ a higher quad core and thinking at least q9450 because it has 1333 fsb... I'm not trying to go beyond the q9450 as far as price ($329- newegg) the next step up is $500 something... so idk.

should i go w\ something like a q9450 or should i go w\ a e8500 ?

i priced out mobo, cpu(9450) and 4gb ddr3-1333 and it is like $850 and i have everything else I need for the build already.

[darkshadow]

1333mhz fsb?

[Board of Command]

1333 FSB?



FSB really makes a minimal difference on home computers. If you're thinking about the Q9450, I suggest you also take a look at the Q9300. It's a lower clocked part with half the cache, but also costs considerably less. With some overclocking, you should be able to match the Q9450's performance in most areas that don't rely heavily on cache size.

[darkshadow]

haha thats a pretty badass overclock, doesnt seem like you did any volt modding though, heavy duty watercooling?