Crackheaded Naruto Speculation and Opinions

[bxgreatone87]

this may be something that is of little revelance but remember when orochimaru attacked konoha and summoned the 1st,2nd and tried to summon the 4th hokage but the third stoped the summoning from happening.What i wanted to know is how he go the 4th's soul when it was lost forever when he used the sealing technique from the explanation the god of death eats your soul wich is lost forever and when he explains the summoning of the past hokages he says he binds there soul to another dead body lol i know this is old but its also interesting

[djblingsingh]

hes orochimaru

hes the strongest of the 3 sennin, and he is the one who knows the most amounts of techniques, hell he even has his own village.

i'm pretty sure that technique has little to do with their souls, as he did insert 2 kunai into 1st, and 2nd's heads giving him complete control over them.


just look at it this way, its anime, it dont gotta make sense, its just gotta be fun and interesting

[Assassin]

i dont think he needs thier souls per se. that jutsu simple summons the deceased, so it would automatically bring the soul back from wherever it was i think. Cuz its not like he has posession of the 1st and 2nd hokage's souls either.

[dragonrage]

well remember, he had to as kill him own men to bring them back. So maybe it was their souls that was uses and not the real one. I just wanted their fighting strength.

Or maybe that it was a alteration of the technique, cause the person soul had to be sealed within the person that is trying to seal it. Remember he was the one who created it so different levels to it.

That brings up the question why was it sealed in Naruto are where are his parents. Guess we will all just have to watch to find out... or if you want read the manga.

[bxgreatone87]

japanese anime is just confusing they always have double negatives lol look ant neo genisis evagelion one of the most confuseing of them all lol

hes orochimaru

hes the strongest of the 3 sennin, and he is the one who knows the most amounts of techniques, hell he even has his own village.

i'm pretty sure that technique has little to do with their souls, as he did insert 2 kunai into 1st, and 2nd's heads giving him complete control over them.


just look at it this way, its anime, it dont gotta make sense, its just gotta be fun and interesting

lol orochimaru aint the strongest out of the tree senin imo beacause orochimaru said itachi was stronger then he was and itachi and one of the 7shinobi-gatana said jiraya was stronger then them and would kill them

just wanted to clear that up ^^

[Assassin]

1. dont double post. next time you'll get a warning.

2. i dont think he said jiraya was stronger, it was more like, at the time they would've been injured as well, so itachi choose not to fight.

[Necromas]

We can gaurantee that the raised hokage had the hokages souls in them, the 3rd was apologizing for sealing their souls in the death gods belly, and you could even see the souls being pulled out.

[Sentenal]

1. dont double post. next time you'll get a warning.

2. i dont think he said jiraya was stronger, it was more like, at the time they would've been injured as well, so itachi choose not to fight.

Itachi said that they would be able to kill Jiraya, but would die in the process. And thats because Jiraya never fights a fair fight, and always changes the terrian and enviroment to suit his needs.

[bxgreatone87]

even if he changes the terrain that doesnt matter because its a nija tecnique but they said he could kill them but even if they can kill him they would die in the process. what orocimaru says is itachi is stronger then him so wouldnt that make jiraya stronger lol

[Divinity]

I'd like to think that the whole thing works like this.

Itachi > Oro
Oro > Jiraiya
Jiraiya > Itachi

So.... Oro's techniques probably don't work against Itachi, but it works against Jiraiya. Jiraiya's techniques work against Itachi, but doesn't work against Oro.

[The Heretic Azazel]

I'd like to think that the whole thing works like this.

Itachi > Oro
Oro > Jiraiya
Jiraiya > Itachi

So.... Oro's techniques probably don't work against Itachi, but it works against Jiraiya. Jiraiya's techniques work against Itachi, but doesn't work against Oro.

Where do you people GET this shit? I mean, do you pull it straight from your asses or does it require some preparation first?

[mage]

Itachi said that they would be able to kill Jiraya, but would die in the process.

I'm tired of people saying this. Itachi and Kisame were referring to Naruto when they said they would both end up dieing because they didn't know how well he could use his kyuubi power at the time. Episode 83, Itachi and Kisame are talking about how they would die if they fought "him," then say "and his caretaker is Jiraiya..," so obviously they were talking about Naruto.

Now, stfu about the Jiraiya>Itachi BS. We don't know.

And thats because Jiraya never fights a fair fight, and always changes the terrian and enviroment to suit his needs.

lol, don't know where you got this part.. I wish you guys would quit making shit up.

[The Heretic Azazel]

I'm starting to enjoy all the fanfiction in this thread teehee.

I'm dying to know what other gems you have for us.

[Board of Command]

Jiraiya doesn't fight fair? So I guess mangekyou sharingan is fair then.

There is no such thing as "fairness" in Naruto. The whole point of the unique ninjas is so that they have their own advantages, or create advantageous situations for themselves. That's how they win.

[Sentenal]

I'm tired of people saying this. Itachi and Kisame were referring to Naruto when they said they would both end up dieing because they didn't know how well he could use his kyuubi power at the time. Episode 83, Itachi and Kisame are talking about how they would die if they fought "him," then say "and his caretaker is Jiraiya..," so obviously they were talking about Naruto.

Now, stfu about the Jiraiya>Itachi BS. We don't know.

First off, your an ass. Secondly, right after that part, after Kisamue says his caretaker is a Legendary Sannin, Kisame says: "Konoha's Uchiha Clan and the Mist's Seven Shinobi-gantana seem petty before his name." This part obviously refers to Jiraiya. And that he is above them both.

lol, don't know where you got this part.. I wish you guys would quit making shit up.

Ass. Lets look at all the major fights Jiraiya has been in. Jiraiya vs. Itachi and Kisame: Jiraiya used the Frog Mouth Trap technique, changing the terrain drastically to Jiraiya's advantage. Jiraiya vs Orochimaru: Orochimaru had summoned 2 snakes. Jiraiya counters with the Hell Swamp technique, trapping both snakes, again changing the terrain to his advantage.

[mage]

First off, your an ass. Secondly, right after that part, after Kisamue says his caretaker is a Legendary Sannin, Kisame says: "Konoha's Uchiha Clan and the Mist's Seven Shinobi-gantana seem petty before his name." This part obviously refers to Jiraiya. And that he is above them both.

They just meant that his name is more famous than theirs.

Ass. Lets look at all the major fights Jiraiya has been in. Jiraiya vs. Itachi and Kisame: Jiraiya used the Frog Mouth Trap technique, changing the terrain drastically to Jiraiya's advantage. Jiraiya vs Orochimaru: Orochimaru had summoned 2 snakes. Jiraiya counters with the Hell Swamp technique, trapping both snakes, again changing the terrain to his advantage.

How does this make it unfair? There is no "fairness" in a ninja fight. Anyway, even while they were running away after blasting through his frog throat or whatever it was, Kisame says "Why must we retreat? You could've...," implying that he thinks Itachi could have taken Jiraiya on.

[xDarkMaster]

You guys are blatantly off topic.

What i wanted to know is how he go the 4th's soul when it was lost forever when he used the sealing technique from the explanation the god of death eats your soul wich is lost forever and when he explains the summoning of the past hokages he says he binds there soul to another dead body

Not who would win in a fight, Jiraya or Itachi.

[Genma]

I never really thought about the 4th's soul and body coming back.

Damn... Japanese animes have so many plotholes.

[Board of Command]

Ass. Lets look at all the major fights Jiraiya has been in. Jiraiya vs. Itachi and Kisame: Jiraiya used the Frog Mouth Trap technique, changing the terrain drastically to Jiraiya's advantage. Jiraiya vs Orochimaru: Orochimaru had summoned 2 snakes. Jiraiya counters with the Hell Swamp technique, trapping both snakes, again changing the terrain to his advantage.

Again, are you telling me that when Itachi used mangekyou sharingan on Kakashi, it did not give Itachi an advantage? Or that when Oro summoned the 1st and 2nd to fight the 3rd, Oro did not have an advantage in manpower?

[bxgreatone87]

but like stated earlier thats apart of being a ninja using techniques to gain an advantage so that doesnt count lol like the uchiha clan and there sharigan that a technique only they have that gives them an advantage thats kinda like jiraya using his techniques to gain advantage so you can never say a ninja cheats its pretty much stupid to think that cause all ninjas use something to gain advantage of a fight

lol yea we went off topic but this is way better then talking about when the fillers will end >.<