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  1. #101
    That's false. When they were testing Shindo, the TOKKO people said that it wouldn't matter if Shindou wins or loses the fight since it would be a win-win situation because if he won it meant that he has what it takes to be awaken, but if he lost they could just take his piece.

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    Ah yes, I forgot about that scene/statement.
    Would assume his sister is one then, since they said only people to survive the massacre were symbiote's.

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    If that's the case, then I would think it's reasonable to assume that the people trying to kill Saya are after the piece inside her, rather than just threatening Shindou.

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    You would think so, but what's the point of trying to run her over if you are not going to stay around to collect the pieces?

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    Running her over with a car wouldn't kill her, she needs to chopped up into pieces or she'll just regenerate like they've been doing so far. I think they were just sending him a message to back off, doubt she'll be targeted again.


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  6. #106
    I don't think Saya is a symbiote because all the symbiotes had their hair colors change after the Machida incident.

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    Na', that's just the characters being gay... Their hair colors don't change because of them being symbiotes. Sakura still has the same color and Kureha's color didn't change when she became one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Budweineken
    You would think so, but what's the point of trying to run her over if you are not going to stay around to collect the pieces?
    The theory would then be that the bad guys are letting TOKKO do all the work and then steal all those pieces from them at the last minute.

    Well, actually, that doesn't make much sense either. Do the bad guys want those pieces collected? Wouldn't they rather prevent the pieces from gathering together again?

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    This ep felt kinda rushed... Ibuki kicked ass though hahahah

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    An interesting episode. Somewhat sad.

    I wonder what manner of ending this series could have, considering they hardly can eliminate all the demons and acquire all the fragments before that. Even catching Taishi wouldn't really matter, other than perhaps removing some coordination in the enemy ranks. Hmm... It also means little chances of seeing how they will get the fragments out of all the TOKKO members. Or even just Shindou and Sakura, if Kureha gets herself killed earlier. It would make a special ending, though, if Shindou and Sakura lovingly killed each others at the very end of the series...

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    I knew Inukai had to die sooner or later, the fact that he never talked and felt underleveled was a give away. The ep as a whole was good though. I was for some reason hoping the other two hunters would show up and be the one's to kill her brother.


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  13. #113
    I'm still thinking about the beginning where Sakura awakens. Are symbiotes born as symbiotes and just need to be awakened, or do they actually go through some transformation? In Shindou's case, the tattoo just appeared one day and they had to toss him into the hole at Machida to awaken him. However, in Sakura's case, she seemed like a normal girl but got the tattoo plus awakening when she fell in the hole. If that turned her into a symbiote, then how did Shindou become a symbiote?

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    Personally I don't think the tattoo as such should be that important. More like a symptom than a cause. A person who has a shard embedded in his body forms a contract with a demon and becomes a symbiote. If he's unlucky, the demon is a bastard who takes over, if he's lucky (like the TOKKO members), the demon (at least seems to) is moderate and the person still controls his body.

    Why those tattoos exist, that's a good question. So far this series could have worked perfectly similarly without the tattoos at all.

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    But the question remains: how do people become symbiotes? Did something common happen to all of the survivors or were they "kept alive" because they were born as symbiotes?

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    Aye. The question still remains, and I would expect it to remain also after the series ends.

    However, I don't think any of them were born as symbiotes, because that would mean they were born with the shards. Didn't they get the shards during the incident? At most they were born as potential symbiotes.

    And they aren't actually being kept alive, because the demons were / are trying to kill them. I'd think it's a coincidense.

    Well, most likely I've forgotten many things already said in the series, rendering my guesses less than educated.

  17. #117
    The kept alive idea was from 1 or 2 episodes ago. They mentioned it during a Tokko meeting.

    It was suggested that Sakura became a symbiote when she was attacked and fell in the hole. However, nothing like that happened to Shindou during the incident. That's what I'm confused about. I hope they clear this up later on.

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    I don't think they were born as symbiotes or if there is any reason why they became them. I think it's more along the lines that the demon faction that doesn't want to destroy mankind needs a host to remain sane in the living world or they'll go on a bloody rampage.


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    Well Shindou's tattoo didn't just appear, in episode 2 when he visits Machida and goes near the hole then his tattoo becomes visible. The way I see it is that all survivors of Machida have a latent ability to become symbiotes but they must experience a sort of epiphany to awaken. In Shindou's case he awakened in steps while Sakura awakened all in one step.

  20. #120
    My take on symbiote birth is that people who got too close to the big hole became 'infected' somehow with Phantoms. But I have no idea what could dictate transforming into another Phantom vs a dormant symbiote. Perhaps the intentions of the Phantom inside? Who knows...however there isn't much show left to resolve this problem so we'll probably be scratching our heads for a while.

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