Reputation System Overview

[Terracosmo]

Don't take this so seriously... in the end this was destined to become some kind of popularity contest. Well not entirely, but you get the point. People who are hated won't get positive reps even if they post awesome and true stuff, people who are well-liked will get positive reps for no apparent reason, KitKat will always have the highest legit rep since she's a girl and so on (don't get me wrong, Kit is awesome, but I've seen the comments she has received and they are hilarious).

While we of course would love it if everyone gave fair comments and all that jazz - we kinda realize it's impossible so, yeah, don't take it TOO seriously.

[Jadugar]

Its all good and dandy in the la la land where the mods are.

Don’t get me wrong Terra, I fucking love you but a couple you days ago you had only two bar reps and now its off the chart. You should be able to do what ever you want to, I am absolutely fine with that. You are pinnacle of awesome.

BUT

What I don’t like is oh don’t take it too seriously stuff. How can you say that? I have been here nearly a year and no disrespect to KitKat but five rep bars. Come on, it seems like there is some kind of underground rep system/mechanism working to favor certain people.

I do have a lot of friends here who would rep me without asking any questions but I haven’t asked any of them. Why? I don’t feel that it’s the right way. I believe in earring the respect.

This system gave too much of power in the hands of idiots who probably never posted a useful comment in their entire time here but they think they have the right to rep other people.

Like I said before, fuck the rep system. People can give me a bad rep if they want to but they will never take away my freedom of speech (did I just quoted Mel Gibson from Braveheart). If people want to say it to someone that they don’t like their post then they can say it to their face by POSTING. Its an online forum for god’s sake. There is no need of some kind of stealth rep system.

Well its not so stealth system for the mods. Apparently they can see you. This system is really transparent and fair?

I don’t remember disapproving a mod. If I did then I probably had a good reason. If you can see me then what? Should I be scared?

I will give you a word of advice given to me by two mods. Don’t take it too seriously.




Why do I bother pouring my heart out because clearly I see a lot of people upset by this and because I love this place so much that I feel like doing something about it? I browse a lot of forums but Gotwoot is my first love and your first love stays with you forever.


Let the bashing begin. LET ME HAVE IT.


P.S. I also reped KitKat (I love you too). What the hell, the sky is not going to fall down.

[Terracosmo]

Well I wasn't saying that you should completely ignore it... just that it will never work the way people really want it to.

[Munsu]

I don't know why you bring Terra to this argument, since he's an admin, and as it has been explained a couple of times already admins are pretty much out of the Rep game. Plus, admins can change their reps to whatever they see fit, so who cares.

About Kitkat, what's really impressive that me, being the 2nd or 3rd poster with the most rep points power here, has given her about 3 times negative reps, so that that really shows how many positive feedback she is getting.

I really wonder who identified himself being able to see you by being a mod, if it was Terra, then who cares since he is an admin and his rep really doesn't matter, if it was by someone else, then start worrying...

[Knives122]

the only reason I was frustrated with this was because it took me the longest to get two squares (talk about not working the way I want it to )

While it took KK less then a week to get five..... (I'm fine with that)

The only real downside to the rep system, is that some(lets say someone childish) could end spamming everyone with neg. reps in the same way they spammed the forums a few months back. Bottom line is that neg. reps should only be give when absoluetly called for, if not then don't put anything

[masamuneehs]

Enter the drama!

Seriously, I do get a little irked when I get a neg rep without a comment, but most of them have had comments. But these Rep hits have to be anonymous or you just fall into the cycle of 'my friends give me Ups, my foes (and those that I give Down Rep to) give me Downs' and that really doesn't help anyone with anything...

Rep should be earned in a legit fashion. Heck, now that I just see that terra's rep is so high I don't even care to Rep him on posts I liked. I can imagine it'd be the same to others.

Everyone has the right to rep others. Yes it's a popularity contest. I can accept that I won't always agree with rep hits I get, and I sure as hell don't always think some members should have the rep they do, but complaining about it isn't going to change anything.

I know I'll probably get bad reps just for being myself, but as long as I get a legit comment on it I have to accept that other person's opinion.

And it's pretty mean to single out KitKat. She's well-liked for a reason, and it isn't just because she's a girl.

Jad, you have to go one way or the other. Saying 'Fuck the system' and then showing that it really irks you isn't furthering either one of those viewpoints... On the other hand, I feel your pain with getting slapped by anonymous negitive hits that don't seem to have much more than a 'I don't like you' ring to them

Terra, how bout settin your rep back down to a normal level and serving as a good example of how the Rep system works for others? I know Comp's been doing that, but other than him all the other 'visible' administrators (which are Wilik, Ciber, comp and you) have artificially inflated rep.

"Neg Rep" happens...

[IFHTT]

"Neg Rep happens..."

Exactly, at least the rep holds no bearing on your posting priveldges or anything else for that matter. We're all just struck by the I want to have higher rep than you syndrome that comes with this kind of thing. But one thing good about it, is that if you really want to have a positve rep and you make crappy posts, it can influence the way you post as to better the community... Just my 2 cents.

[Jadugar]

"Neg Rep happens..."
But one thing good about it, is that if you really want to have a positve rep and you make crappy posts, it can influence the way you post as to better the community... Just my 2 cents.

I think it restricts people what they really think. They are more aware of the fact that if they say something which is true but is against someone then they will be definitely getting a bad rep.

Hell even I flinched a couple of time. I just moved away thinking oh no if I say something then this person is going to give me a bad rep. This should not be affecting the way people think and post.

Jad, you have to go one way or the other. Saying 'Fuck the system' and then showing that it really irks you isn't furthering either one of those viewpoints

I give up. I am only going to go one way not that it has changed what it used to be.

I really wonder who identified himself being able to see you by being a mod, if it was Terra, then who cares since he is an admin and his rep really doesn't matter, if it was by someone else, then start worrying...

28 points rep power. Who is that strong?


and the drama continues..............

[Munsu]

How can you find out how much rep points a specific rep hit gives you?

[Jadugar]

I had 188 points yestarday. After that bad rep it went down to 160.

[KitKat]

*gasp* It was BUD who negative repped me!!! *dies*

Hehe, well, I just want to say that I don't feel like I'm being picked on or anything in this discussion. I've mentioned to more than a few people that I don't feel myself to be totally deserving of the rep given to me. I realize that being a girl who actively posts on an anime forum bestows a certain celebrity-like status, but I like to think that I've legitimately earned some of that rep too through my efforts to be a good poster and active contributer to the community. It's an inherently flawed system, but it does have a lot of potential to improve the community if more people start repping for reasons other than likes/dislikes of a person. Even if only the older members are committed to keeping the system fair, it will have a lot of impact since they have the most rep power.

Oh, and, some of you guys leave really sweet comments!

[Terracosmo]

"And it's pretty mean to single out KitKat. She's well-liked for a reason, and it isn't just because she's a girl."

Nobody has said that "it's just because she's a girl". Among her comments, however, are people writing basically "this rep is because you're a girl". I am not trying to single out someone or whatever-the-fuck, I just felt that it was a good way to illustrate that the rep system isn't "fair". But enough about that.

"Terra, how bout settin your rep back down to a normal level and serving as a good example of how the Rep system works for others? I know Comp's been doing that, but other than him all the other 'visible' administrators (which are Wilik, Ciber, comp and you) have artificially inflated rep."

Nah, I kinda like being the pinnacle of awesome.

[complich8]

Its all good and dandy in the la la land where the mods are.
I don’t remember disapproving a mod. If I did then I probably had a good reason. If you can see me then what? Should I be scared?
...

In order to prevent just this sort of thing, I've unilaterally (and maybe unpredictably) decided to make it so mods can't see who leaves rep comments.

Sorry mods, that's just how it is .


In other news, I'll reiterate ... if you're getting abusive reps, drop me a pm. That's the only way anything will happen about them.


And yeah, part of KitKat's high reputation is probably because she's a girl, and we all know it, and many of us are the sort of particular anime nerds who are susceptible to just such things... But like I mentioned to her a while back on aim:

it's like a popularity contest at school
sure, the pretty girl is going to get a lot of votes
but the pretty girl who also does nice things for people is going to win over the slightly prettier girl who's a raging bitchaholic

[IFHTT]

But like I mentioned to her a while back on aim:

Damn Right!
I know I've been here a VERY short time compared to most of you guys but what I've seen of KitKat's posts makes me feel like she deserves everyone of those rep points. If you don't agree that's fine but I know I've sent a pos. rep her way once or twice and for good reason. It's simple, she's awesome. I probably haven't been here long enough to be able to say that with valitdity but thats just the way it is...

[Munsu]

Sorry mods, that's just how it is .

Ah, that sucks... I was targeting mods myself with some fun comments, now they won't know that those nasty things came from me.

I blame Assertn and Terra for this... Mod privileges should be kept quiet, you shouldn't be going around spouting crap about how great it is to be a mod because you can do this and that. It just breaks the system.

[Terracosmo]

I blame Assertn and Terra for this... Mod privileges should be kept quiet, you shouldn't be going around spouting crap about how great it is to be a mod because you can do this and that. It just breaks the system.

I might "spout" it but I haven't actually acted by it. For example even though I've been able to see who negative reped me, I've never "countered". It's not that big of a deal :P

Oh and I believe it was a good move by comp to make it so the comments aren't visible anymore.

And if it means so much to you guys, sure, I'll go back to regular reputation.

Now please cease the goddamn drama.

And for the love of cupcakes stop acting like wannabe knights, NOBODY has EVER said that KIT is a BAD POSTER. Nor has anyone said that she doesn't deserve her reputation BECAUSE SHE DOES. SO DI=)AI=¤")=¤")=¤")=&#164"¤"¤"¤

Gingerbread

[Knives122]

Now please cease the goddamn drama.

But "Days of our reps" is just starting to get good. Joey told Starla that Roxine said that Sara just gave Tina a bad rep to Shrek.

and now George is about to confront Tom about the pos. rep he gave to Quinxy.

[Terracosmo]

lol "Days of our reps". Not bad.