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    I can be sore for up to a week. >_>

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    Sore in a muscle group or sore in a joint? If you're sore that long, you're probably not working out enough on those muscles. You could drink some kind of protein that helps your recovery so you can work out longer in one visit to the gym.


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    Guys, scratch that, i`m dying now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    Sore in a muscle group or sore in a joint? If you're sore that long, you're probably not working out enough on those muscles. You could drink some kind of protein that helps your recovery so you can work out longer in one visit to the gym.
    Muscle groups. Joints are pretty good.

    Talking about joints, I need to fix up my squats. I'm using a machine at the moment (pads on shoulders, pushing with my body on a 50 degree incline), but I can't seem to push properly with my heels instead of the balls of my feet.

    It's either my form, intrinsic foot problem or my shoes. Does anyone have experience squatting in running shoes while maintaining the weight on your heels? It's a likely problem since running shoes by design will try to aid you in your weight transition from the heel-strike to toe-off. Perhaps some flat shoes would work better in this case.

    That, or I should try using balance-balls + wall to squat properly first.

    I worked out on an empty stomach today (4 hours after previous meal), and didn't feel that I could work as hard as I did last time. Something just keeps failing me. Also, towards the end (5-6 hours post-meal) my stomach felt like it was digesting itself. Relief only came when I went home and ate stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    Guys, scratch that, i`m dying now.
    Is it normal post-workout soreness or DOMS? DOMS sucks, makes you feel like you've seriously damaged something.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Talking about joints, I need to fix up my squats. I'm using a machine at the moment (pads on shoulders, pushing with my body on a 50 degree incline), but I can't seem to push properly with my heels instead of the balls of my feet.

    It's either my form, intrinsic foot problem or my shoes. Does anyone have experience squatting in running shoes while maintaining the weight on your heels? It's a likely problem since running shoes by design will try to aid you in your weight transition from the heel-strike to toe-off. Perhaps some flat shoes would work better in this case.

    I worked out on an empty stomach today (4 hours after previous meal), and didn't feel that I could work as hard as I did last time. Something just keeps failing me. Also, towards the end (5-6 hours post-meal) my stomach felt like it was digesting itself. Relief only came when I went home and ate stuff.
    Any reason to use a machine instead of a bar? Using the machine is basically cheating, as you no longer have to balance the bar.

    I also do leg workouts in running shoes, never figured they'd factor into anything, but makes sense. I noticed recently on a leg press machine that my shoes would distort forward to back and not side to side. I've also noticed that I squat with my toes like you said, but I thought it was just because I had bad form. I'd hate to have to buy new shoes just to work out legs in.

    I hate working out on an empty stomach, it feels terrible. I always eat a granola bar about an hour before I work out and I get a lot more from my workouts.


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    Normal post-work soreness fosho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ani
    Any reason to use a machine instead of a bar? Using the machine is basically cheating, as you no longer have to balance the bar.
    I'm using it because:

    1) I'm a noob at it
    2) The machine's available

    I've thought about using the bar (probably start with ball squats, then dumb bell squats etc and work my way up), but didn't like the thought of killing myself.. so I've defaulted to using the machine until I've learned properly.

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    We've discussed it before, but I used a smith machine for bench press when I first started and got a very inaccurate read of how much I could bench. It easily added 30 lbs to my bench just from using the machine instead of a bar.

    The squat rack should have protection bars on the side that catch the bar if you drop it. At the weights you and I prob squat, there's not much danger of hurting yourself, though you might look foolish if you mess up.


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    I am le frenchman so my workout is mostly sex, rioting, shit ton of stairs in the metro and Shaun T Insanity Workout.

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    So one of my main goals is to get ripped without bulking up, this includes getting well defined abs. Currently i`m 5'5" and weight 119 pounds, i`m going to the gym 4 days a week, increased my diet a fair amount, got some triglicerid acid fat thing and a protein shake, am i on the right path? i ask this because i heard many people saying that the secret to good abs is to have a low fat diet, but i`m skinny as hell, so i`m not sure if its right for me to take the triglicerid thing or not.
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    Man, i still can't get how little you weigh O.o

    edit: I guess one upside to being that skinny is that any musclemass you put on should be that much more visible because of your low bodyfat.
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    Yeah, i`m extra skinny, i even have curves o.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    So one of my main goals is to get ripped without bulking up, this includes getting well defined abs. Currently i`m 5'5" and weight 119 pounds, i`m going to the gym 4 days a week, increased my diet a fair amount, got some triglicerid acid fat thing and a protein shake, am i on the right path? i ask this because i heard many people saying that the secret to good abs is to have a low fat diet, but i`m skinny as hell, so i`m not sure if its right for me to take the triglicerid thing or not.
    xD

    So what you're saying is that you're actually 12?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    So one of my main goals is to get ripped without bulking up, this includes getting well defined abs. Currently i`m 5'5" and weight 119 pounds, i`m going to the gym 4 days a week, increased my diet a fair amount, got some triglicerid acid fat thing and a protein shake, am i on the right path? i ask this because i heard many people saying that the secret to good abs is to have a low fat diet, but i`m skinny as hell, so i`m not sure if its right for me to take the triglicerid thing or not.
    You can be skinny, but still have a gut.

    I've never tried this triglicerid (medium length fatty acid?) diet, but it doesn't look like something that'd cause harm. A quick google tells me it's an easily absorbed fatty acid that is supposedly good for weight loss because it promotes fatty oxidation (not unlike ketogenic diet and low carb diets, really). As for why a medium length fatty acid (which is digested without wasting energy) is preferred over long chain fatty acids (which require more energy to digest before you can actually use it), I have no idea.

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    Actually attempting to answer your question... taking the protein will add bulk, though it mostly depends on what you're doing at the gym. Low fat diet will help with getting ripped, but you'll have to get some mass in order to get that mass ripped, so the protein makes sense there. No idea about the triglyceride thing, though I'm not big on supplements beyond protein shakes.


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    You won't gain mass without increasing your calorie intake. You might be able to get stronger (CNS gains), but for putting muscle on you need to eat more and have an adequate amount of protein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    You can be skinny, but still have a gut.

    I've never tried this triglicerid (medium length fatty acid?) diet, but it doesn't look like something that'd cause harm. A quick google tells me it's an easily absorbed fatty acid that is supposedly good for weight loss because it promotes fatty oxidation (not unlike ketogenic diet and low carb diets, really). As for why a medium length fatty acid (which is digested without wasting energy) is preferred over long chain fatty acids (which require more energy to digest before you can actually use it), I have no idea.
    Ok, found some info on triglycerides. They are actually bad for you in high amounts, so either what UChess is taking is supposed to remove them from your system, or in the case of someone as slim as he, add some fat to his diet.

    Fish oil supplements are good for reducing triglyceride levels in your body:

    High triglycerides are associated with heart disease and untreated diabetes. To reduce the risk of heart disease, doctors believe it is important to keep triglycerides below a certain level. Doctors usually recommend increasing physical activity and restricting dietary fat to lower triglycerides. Sometimes they also prescribe drugs such as gemfibrozil (Lopid) for use in addition to these lifestyle changes. Now researchers believe that fish oil, though not as effective as gemfibrozil, can reduce triglyceride levels by 20% to 50%.
    Also this:
    There are two forms of fat in the human body: triglycerides and fatty acids. Human fat/adipose tissue/love handles – whatever you call it – this is the fat stored as triglycerides. Fatty acids are burned for fuel. Triglycerides are three fatty acids joined together by something called glycerol. Fat enters and exits fat cells as fatty acids (triglycerides are too big to move across the cell membrane – think of a membrane as a cell ‘wall’).

    When we talk about fat stored as human fat tissue, we are talking about triglycerides. Inside the fat cell, fatty acids continually ‘cycle’ across the cell membrane and back out again. Fatty acids can be used as fuel during this process (or recycled/stored if they are not used). If three fatty acids are joined by glycerol to form a triglyceride, they can’t get back out of the fat cell until the triglyceride is broken back down into glycerol and fatty acids.


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    Working out at the gym:



    I'm guilty of the trick shot mirror check out, the scenic route, and the chase (though I enjoy cardio). The most realistic part is how the chick in the video isn't that hot, same as most of the chicks you see at the gym. It's just those leggings and boy shorts that drive me nuts.

    Also like his dig on the Smith machine at 1:36.


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    Fuck that was hilarious
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    Animeniax, look up "medium chain triglicerides weight loss" instead. I believe that'll help you understand what UChess is talking about.

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