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    The major difference is the 5/3/1 Plan is that it is slow. It's not like the other popular ones, say...P90X, which claims to get you ripped in 13 weeks, 7 days a week of workouts. 5/3/1 isn't going to change much in 13 weeks, but the progress is constant and steady. Give it 6 months, and you'll notice you made substantial progress.

    Slow changes are much longer lasting. It's also a lot more reasonable in terms of time spent in gym. Highly useful when you have a demanding job or a family (or both).

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    I think it's the level of energy and commitment required to follow such a plan that makes it unappealing. I have enough trouble getting to the gym, having to follow a regimen at the gym would make it even less likely I'd stick with it. Still, it's said that you get the max gains from following a plan and recording your progress, so I'm being foolish about it.

    It's funny, but for me, it's a bit of a catch-22/symbiotic relationship. I have to get/stay in shape for my future profession, but one of the many reasons I'm going into that profession is that it will motivate/force me to stay in shape.


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    Worked out for the first time in ages. Feels sore, but productive.

    I've heard people say that exercising late can interfere with your sleepiness. I can drop right this minute if I allowed myself to.

    edit: and indeed I napped like a pig afterwards.
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    If you work out and then stop for a while, does it feel like wasted effort, or do you feel each workout is intrinsically beneficial in itself?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    If you work out and then stop for a while, does it feel like wasted effort, or do you feel each workout is intrinsically beneficial in itself?
    Hmm..

    Well, each workout in intrinsically beneficial in that it burns whatever energy you expended at that time and also raises your metabolism for around 48hrs afterwards. That happens regardless of your regular workout regime, so in that sense it's intrinsically beneficial.

    On the other hand though, whatever muscle mass you gain is hardly noticable if you do it just once, and your cardio fitness would slip backwards from lack of exercise with time anyway...

    Is that what you mean? I'm not sure if I quite get the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Hmm..

    Well, each workout in intrinsically beneficial in that it burns whatever energy you expended at that time and also raises your metabolism for around 48hrs afterwards. That happens regardless of your regular workout regime, so in that sense it's intrinsically beneficial.

    On the other hand though, whatever muscle mass you gain is hardly noticable if you do it just once, and your cardio fitness would slip backwards from lack of exercise with time anyway...

    Is that what you mean? I'm not sure if I quite get the question.
    No you got it right. I've always felt that if you don't continue your workout routine, then the occasional workout is kind of pointless. Yes you work off what you ate that day and maybe the next day. But in the larger scheme you would have gained as much from working out that one time as if you hadn't worked out, ie zero gain.

    I can see the benefit of it maybe waking up a hunger to want to continue to work out and get in shape.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    No you got it right. I've always felt that if you don't continue your workout routine, then the occasional workout is kind of pointless. Yes you work off what you ate that day and maybe the next day. But in the larger scheme you would have gained as much from working out that one time as if you hadn't worked out, ie zero gain.

    I can see the benefit of it maybe waking up a hunger to want to continue to work out and get in shape.
    If your body gets used to working out over an extended period of time, it becomes easier to regain that strength if you lose it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn View Post
    If your body gets used to working out over an extended period of time, it becomes easier to regain that strength if you lose it.
    Definitely, but you have to hit that stage with lean mass and long term muscle. I've flirted with hitting it a few times in recent attempts, but something always halts my regimen to prevent further growth (usually sickness or just being busy, sometimes injury or lack of motivation). But the one-off workout after a long time away doesn't contribute to any of this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    I can see the benefit of it maybe waking up a hunger to want to continue to work out and get in shape.
    Decided to take a serious attempt at HIIT running for the first time (foot injury for the past 2 years or so had set it back, even if I had the dedication)

    I thought this was easy when I read it, but since I was starting out I thought I might as well use a beginner setting:

    Sprint: 15 seconds
    Jog: 2 minutes

    Perform: 11x

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    By the 5th repeat I was already struggling to do well in the sprint and was walking for the first 90 seconds of the break.
    I finished the last sprint and walked 300m to my house and stood/curled over a table for 5 minutes.

    Heart rate after those 5 minutes: 180bpm
    HR 30 mins post sprinting: 160bpm
    45mins post: 106
    60mins post: 84

    What does that make it, like 30mins+ of free cardio?

    I'm in!

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    I was going to try a HIIT running routine, but decided it's good enough that I just run at all. I did try it once and it sucked so I haven't tried it again. Having asthma sucks.


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    I injured my knee doing HIIT. All that running led to Runner's Knee. Be careful of overdoing it, and rest when your body is telling you too.

    I have a bad habit of forcing myself when my adrenaline is pumping, which leads to injuries. I once injured my back doing ab exercises.

    Why don't you try the Tabata workout? It is much more intense than the normal HIIT runs, and takes only 4 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinta
    Why don't you try the Tabata workout? It is much more intense than the normal HIIT runs, and takes only 4 minutes.p
    Haha,, I don't think I can do 20sec sprints with 10sec cools just yet.. Maybe in a few weeks I can.

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    Are you bitches made of glass? I've never injured myself in the gym, ever.

    Train proper form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Are you bitches made of glass? I've never injured myself in the gym, ever.

    Train proper form.
    I injured my feet at work due to congenital, overuse and footwear reasons.

    My right wrist is also very prone to injury for reasons unknown. I should actually get that checked out now that it's healed.

    I actually have been wondering if I've got some shitty connective tissue problem that is either genetic, diet or lifestyle related.

    I could do with some form-training too. I was using the squat machine a few days ago and found it rather difficult to allign myself such that I was pushing with my heels instead of my toes/balls of feet. Probably better to use some sort of vertical squat instead of a machine that has you lying down on an incline.


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    Regardinc strength-training recovery.. if it aches/hurts, they're not healled, right? I've read on timing and shit, but logically pain should give you the best indication IMO. Lactic acid doesn't persist that long, especially if you cool down if I'm thinking about this correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I injured my feet at work due to congenital, overuse and footwear reasons.

    My right wrist is also very prone to injury for reasons unknown. I should actually get that checked out now that it's healed.

    I actually have been wondering if I've got some shitty connective tissue problem that is either genetic, diet or lifestyle related.
    I have the same problems. My wrists really limit what I can do with building up my arms and chest, and a nagging injury in my right arm affects how much I can incline bench. Plus my hip and back limit how much weight I can squat and deadlift.

    I tried a HIIT running program today... asthma kicked in soon after and I was wheezing and coughing up mucus for half an hour after. Then we had a potluck dinner at work so I engorged myself on that.


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    I'm going to put this here, because putting it in the Bitching Thread doesn't feel quite right.

    Clearing my driveway:
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    [14:27] <%Ryllharu> Time: 11 hours across 2 days.
    Weight estimate calculated for Wolfram Alpha, with the approximation that snow is anywhere from 5 -15% the density of water. Average depth of snow, 18 inches (but it was probably more).

    My back, legs, and shoulders are incredibly sore.

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    I started going to the gym this week, but i find myself with a small problem, i go and work out, and by the time i get back home, it`s as if i was never there, i don`t "feel" it, it`s a bit hard to explain. >.>

    I don`t feel the slightest bit tired after a minuscule amount of rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    I started going to the gym this week, but i find myself with a small problem, i go and work out, and by the time i get back home, it`s as if i was never there, i don`t "feel" it, it`s a bit hard to explain. >.>

    I don`t feel the slightest bit tired after a minuscule amount of rest.
    Did you feel you worked hard enough while you were at the gym?

    Last week I felt the same way you did, but that was because I was only on the treadmill and stationary bike while I was recovering. I had a friend next to me and we were talking the whole time, so it meant I wasn't working very hard despite being there for over 1hr.

    Normally I'm pooped though.

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    About 4-6 weeks ago I started using a couple of apps (bodbot & fitocracy) to exercise and it has been holding me to it. It makes it super easy since my workouts and activities are already scheduled for me and the only thing is to do them. I would look into those two sites/apps if you are looking to schedule and make sure you're sticking to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmanj View Post
    About 4-6 weeks ago I started using a couple of apps (bodbot & fitocracy) to exercise and it has been holding me to it. It makes it super easy since my workouts and activities are already scheduled for me and the only thing is to do them. I would look into those two sites/apps if you are looking to schedule and make sure you're sticking to it.
    Sticking to it is the hard part, and I think it would take more than an app to make me follow a regimen. For me, my future profession requires being physically fit, so that helps with motivation.

    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    I started going to the gym this week, but i find myself with a small problem, i go and work out, and by the time i get back home, it`s as if i was never there, i don`t "feel" it, it`s a bit hard to explain. >.>

    I don`t feel the slightest bit tired after a minuscule amount of rest.
    I usually recover an hour after a workout before I feel like I didn't go at all, but I feel it the next day (sometimes another day after that). Or like Buff said, you could be taking it too easy at the gym. Soreness comes from tearing tissue.


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