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    Oh ok, though that's kind of confusing then. If medium chain triglycerides aid in sports performance and weight loss, I wouldn't think UChess wants to use that, since he's trying to gain weight.


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    So one of my main goals is to get ripped without bulking up, this includes getting well defined abs. Currently i`m 5'5" and weight 119 pounds, i`m going to the gym 4 days a week, increased my diet a fair amount, got some triglicerid acid fat thing and a protein shake, am i on the right path? i ask this because i heard many people saying that the secret to good abs is to have a low fat diet, but i`m skinny as hell, so i`m not sure if its right for me to take the triglicerid thing or not.
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    Hope that helps for ab workouts; however, I don't think there's anything on nutrition. To answer your problem, something tells me you shouldn't be taking triglycerides yet at your weight range assuming you have low body fat.

    I recently started real bench pressing, squats, and deadlifts. I can't believe I didn't start them earlier, though, my form is pretty bad for deadlifts (arcing back).

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    What do you mean by "real"? As in with the olympic bar and not on a machine? I still use barbell presses for a chest workout since it doesn't require a spotter, doesn't hurt the wrists as much, and gives a better overall workout on your arms and shoulders as well as the chest.

    Squats and deadlifts are pretty much essential to any real workout plan.


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    Well, I didn't mean anything negative when I meant "real", but yes, the olympic bar (barbell); however, it's interesting to note that machines have its merits. I've been told that machines didn't produce good results, which is why I've been using dumbbell benching the entire time.

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    I didn't take it as a negative comment, though we've been talking some shit about Smith machines. Any lifting/working out is better than nothing. I prefer dumbbell chest workouts for the reasons I mentioned.


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    Yeah the machines just aren't as good. Free weight is just better since they work out your stabilizing muscles as well. A machine does that all for you already.

    But yeah, squats and deadlifts are good. I love deadlifts especially, and it did take me a good long while of just tinkering around with low weight just so I could get the form properly of having your spine in a neutral position.

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    So.... I'm not around here much anymore, but I've become totally addicted to Fitocracy. Any of you guys using it to log your workouts? I've all but stopped playing Guild Wars due to becoming more focused on leveling up in Fitocracy instead of leveling up a virtual character. My newest experiment is doing a Fitocracy to DnD conversion experiment. Currently, based on my PR for the overhead press, it puts my strength score at 6. Assuming that I add 1 to my ability score after 4 levels, I want to see how many Fitocracy points it takes me to increase my STR to 7.

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    I used to use Fitocracy, but stopped a while go; I just felt like there was too much double handling involved and ended up forgetting it too often. The DnD experiment sounds like fun though.
    Incidentally KK, what are your fitness related goals, if you don't mind me asking?
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    I started Insanity workout a few weeks ago.

    I AM SCARED OF IT.

    Also, this is super motivating:


    The beginning speech is, anyway.
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    As far as arms go, I find that video demotivating. The speech is nice, and I'd like to apply that philosophy to my back muscles as well as my running ones. Arms.. can be bigger, but if I can't have proportioned goodness, I'd rather they be too small than too big. (yeah, those were too big)

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    "Everytime I went to the gym, I worked arms." Sounds like every meathead who goes to the gym and only works out their upper body. Usually they wear long pants to hide their little legs. I guess it's because they're posing for the video, but their form at everything they did is terrible.

    I like his message though, you really do need to have the right mindset and work ethic to get the most out of your workout.
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    Lets not miss the point people. It's a video containing a motivational speech, with the images there to accentuate the validity of the words. You can apply the wisdom of the principles it contains to any workout goal you desire. With some imagination, you can apply it to a number of things outside of working out as well.
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    Agreed to a point. I think some things are worth that kind of dedication and motivation, and others less so. It'll be funny if, after all that hard work, he gets shot because he struts around with his big arms.


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    I am of the belief that a statement must also be correct alongside having a point.

    I'll agree with the dedication part of the message, but the guy also says "bullshit to theory, just go to the gym and work your arms every day". While dedication is necessary, you also need the knowledge to apply your dedication efficiently.

    Applying dedication in a way that doesn't yield the proportional benefit will make you down yourself.. and in the end, demotivate yourself.

    Not unlike willing to stop smoking and knowing how to stop smoking. Some might be able to do it cold turkey, but to tell everyone "quitting cold turkey is the way to go, you just don't have the will to do it" will just lead to people being demotivated eventually.

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    Yeah but I also think it matters if you're talking about gaining positive benefits or reducing negative factors. Motivation required to stop something is different from motivation to gain something. You could say not smoking is gaining health, but that's not how people see it, they see it as having to stop something to reduce negative effects.


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    I've seen a couple of that dude's vids (CT Fletcher). He was a professional power lifter at one point, and he used to bulk like crazy until health reasons made him stop eating all them McDonalds and shit. Believe he had a stroke or two.

    Anyways, I think he's completely right though. It's all about will power and motivation. You can say you can do all the things you want or know how to do everything, but without actually doing anything there's no point to any of that knowledge. I'm not trying to sound like an ass here, but I used to be one of those people. I used to have all this knowledge but was unmotivated as fuck. I was heavy for a long time, but I was always like "Psh, if I really wanted to lose all this weight and get into shape I could if I really wanted to."

    I had that mindset for a long time, until I just had the motivation to just say fuck it. I'm going to do it for myself. Not for anyone else. You need to be stubborn and thick-skinned as fuck because if you're letting people de-motivate you, you might as well stop while you're ahead. You shouldn't be doing anything unless you really want to. Use what people say as fuel. I was lucky. I'm stubborn to begin with. So the reason I stayed heavy for so long, was because I didn't care what everyone else said to me. If and when they tried to give me shit about being a chubby it'd go in one ear and out the other. I only really got motivated when I really wanted to start bettering myself. Shit, if my 80 year old grandma who was a chronic smoker for 60 years could quit smoking cold turkey with no patches or gum, you can too.

    And let's be honest here. Lifting weights isn't some crazy science. Sure you might see all these guys trying to sound smart by yelling out myofibril and sarcoplasmic hypertrophy, anabolic and catabolic states, BCAAs, ectomorphs, endomorphs, and whatever the fuck else they say. But do you NEED to know these terms? Not really. Sure, it wouldn't hurt to know them, as you can never really have enough information. However, fuck all that. You take some heavy ass weight, and you either pull it towards yourself or push it away from yourself. The only burden of knowledge there is, range of motion and technique. The only wrong way of doing an exercise is one where you can injure yourself with poor form (like lack of a neutral spine). Maybe not stretching or warming up, but that stuff's like common sense anyways. You should've learned that stuff in your physical education classes in school anyways. Sure without the right angle you might not be isolating that muscle as much as you possibly could. But work, is work. You put in that effort, you will still get results. And it's not like working out the secondary muscles in that movement is somehow a bad thing anyways. Sure you might do something one day and you'll feel like you're not engaging it properly. You go back the next time and you fix it. That burden of knowledge can be fixed by yourself through experience. I mean, all the shit we know was from all the trial and error of people that put in the hard work. Anyways, to disclaimer this I'm not some jacked monster, and I don't plan to be but I'm getting decent gains, healthy and feel better (and on the way to look better). Once you get to a point where going to the gym is just routine it'll just be like brushing your teeth or taking a shower. Some people hate it, but I've come to enjoy my time. It also helps that there's eye candy I can bounce my vision off of like 7 mirrors so I don't creeper stare.

    Anddddddd, rant over. Not trying to sound like an asshole or anything, but I've just had an experience earlier kinda relevant to this. My cousin who's 14 years old and 300 pounds now has the mindset that I did when I was overweight. "I'm trying to, but it's just too hard." He'd then say I somehow had it easier because I was lighter when I started my weight loss. I started my weight loss when I was 280. He's just not motivated enough, honestly. Can't give up his previous eating habits. I even offered to help him and motivate him. I didn't have anyone else to help me, cause I did it through motivation.
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    Maybe if you could remember what exactly spurred you to finally lose the weight, you could use that same reason to motivate your cousin. Make him watch Animal House where the dean tells Flounder, "fat, lazy, and stupid is no way to go through life."

    I needed an external motivator to get me in gear after years of wanting to lose weight and get in shape but never seriously working on it. My sister's destination wedding on the beach, attended by all her cute friends fro high school was what motivated me to finally take it serious. Now my future career goals are my primary motivation for getting in even better shape.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animus
    Shit, if my 80 year old grandma who was a chronic smoker for 60 years could quit smoking cold turkey with no patches or gum, you can too.
    I don't agree with that statement where comes down to pure willpower, but I think you guys know why I disagree so I won't elaborate.

    My main motivation these days is just wanting to look better in a shirt and being able to push or take a hit when things get a bit violent.

    Being able to run after buses like it's nothing is a nice bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven View Post
    Incidentally KK, what are your fitness related goals, if you don't mind me asking?
    I'm focusing mostly on increasing strength, while trying to eat clean. I really like how much more energy I have, and how good I feel when I'm working out and fueling my body with stuff that's nutritious. My main motivation is that the more I train my body now, the less health problems I'll have when I'm old. I don't want to be one of those old ladies that falls and breaks a hip and then gets confined to a nursing home. Strength training is the best way to increase bone density and prevent osteoporosis. When I'm 80, I want to be healthier than I am now, fitter than I am now, and kicking all sorts of ass. Like the grandma in that movie 'Hoodwinked'.

    Right now I'm working towards being able to do a real pushup (I know, it's kinda pathetic, but I'll get there soon) and will focus on doing a pullup after that. I'm hoping by the end of the year to be able to squat with the barbell at 1x bodyweight, and to deadlift 1.5x my bodyweight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    My main motivation these days is just wanting to look better in a shirt and being able to push or take a hit when things get a bit violent.
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